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post #31531 of 48168
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Originally Posted by jungleroller View Post


So what is the chilli welt? Isn't the wheeled edge going to cover that? You also mention light brown edge. I don't understand which is which?

I think I will be ordering some burgundy cordovan bayfields MTO but I am confused by all these terms. Can someone define/clarify the difference between the welt, the edge, and what a wheeled edge is? Pictures would be helpful.

 

Also, I was wondering, are there any captoe boots in the past that are ankle height? The bayfields are nice but I am wishing they only came up to chukka boot/cronmok height. I'm doing google searches of past AE styles that are like the bayfields but ankle height but havent come up with anything.

post #31532 of 48168
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Originally Posted by movoblast View Post
 

I think I will be ordering some burgundy cordovan bayfields MTO but I am confused by all these terms. Can someone define/clarify the difference between the welt, the edge, and what a wheeled edge is? Pictures would be helpful.

 

Also, I was wondering, are there any captoe boots in the past that are ankle height? The bayfields are nice but I am wishing they only came up to chukka boot/cronmok height. I'm doing google searches of past AE styles that are like the bayfields but ankle height but havent come up with anything.

I think I might have found some. Allen edmonds medford. Does anyone have any info on the medford or know where I can find some info on them. They look like what I've been looking for in terms of it being captoe + shorter in height. They do look a little clunky though.

post #31533 of 48168
From what I understand, the welt is a layer on top of the midsole. You don't have a wheeled edge, the welt is wheeled. The edge is the side of the shoe which encompasses the side of the welt, the midsole and the sole of the shoe. The Fifth Streets are an ankle height cap toe boot, but they have a medallion.
post #31534 of 48168
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Originally Posted by Hellkamp View Post
I'm a high school teacher, I rarely wear a suit, but will sometimes wear an odd jacket or a blazer. Typically I wear slacks and dress shirt to work so I'm looking for something nice that is not too formal. I'm 28, slim, but athletic. I was thinking about the Kenilworth or another plain toe but I'll take other suggestions??

 

I work in a similar environment and recently ordered the discontinued Cacsade in brown during the 2 for $250 sale; the seconds price (when not on sale) should be $159. With its vibram sole, it's definitely on the casual side of the AE spectrum, but the leather really shines up well.   Since it's no longer an "active" model, there don't seem to be pics of it on AE's site -- these pics on Lyst are good, but don't show the real quality of the leather.  In person, it's definitely more "shoe" than "boot".  I picked up some neutral shoe polish (paste wax) from AE at the same time and was surprised by how much better it was than my typical Kiwi stuff.  Regardless of what shoe you get, do yourself a favor and pick up the AE wax (and a horsehair brush, if you don't have one).

post #31535 of 48168

Brand new brown Delrays.

 

I know they're not the fanciest shoes in the world, but Delrays are my workhorse (I have them in Chili, and I had a real old pair in brown).  They're fantastic every day shoes, especially with a pair of chinos or cotton pants.  I don't know why SF seems to be lukewarm at best when it comes to them/their split toe, but they're some of the most versatile (and best looking) shoes AE makes.  And they're made on the best last there is.

 

 

 

post #31536 of 48168
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Originally Posted by Winston S. View Post

From what I understand, the welt is a layer on top of the midsole. You don't have a wheeled edge, the welt is wheeled. The edge is the side of the shoe which encompasses the side of the welt, the midsole and the sole of the shoe. The Fifth Streets are an ankle height cap toe boot, but they have a medallion.

Thank you so much for clearing things up.

 

I think the name of the style I'm looking for is the balmoral boot? I want one with speed hooks and thicker shoe laces like the ones found on the promontory boots. Do you think I can add speed hooks to the fifth streets? I don't really mind the medallion.

 

Here is a pic that I found on the forums of what I am looking for:

http://www.styleforum.net/t/154268/allen-edmonds-balmoral-boot-in-the-works/60

 

It is the first pic in that thread posted posted by member jeffswood. That is the EXACT style that I want. Sorry I don't really know what you call that style. Wish I knew what it was called. That is why these forums are so great for learning!

 

Man those boots in burgundy or brown cordovan would look SOOOO nice.

post #31537 of 48168
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Originally Posted by movoblast View Post

Thank you so much for clearing things up.

I think the name of the style I'm looking for is the balmoral boot? I want one with speed hooks and thicker shoe laces like the ones found on the promontory boots. Do you think I can add speed hooks to the fifth streets? I don't really mind the medallion.

Here is a pic that I found on the forums of what I am looking for:
http://www.styleforum.net/t/154268/allen-edmonds-balmoral-boot-in-the-works/60

It is the first pic in that thread posted posted by member jeffswood. That is the EXACT style that I want. Sorry I don't really know what you call that style. Wish I knew what it was called. That is why these forums are so great for learning!

Man those boots in burgundy or brown cordovan would look SOOOO nice.

The Fifth Streets are low enough I don't think you need speed hooks. I don't lace mine through to the top. I have it laced to the second to last hole from the top. I'm not sure which boots you are talking about. There is a derby boot, oxford boot, and balmoral boot in that thread.
post #31538 of 48168
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Originally Posted by Winston S. View Post


The Fifth Streets are low enough I don't think you need speed hooks. I don't lace mine through to the top. I have it laced to the second to last hole from the top. I'm not sure which boots you are talking about. There is a derby boot, oxford boot, and balmoral boot in that thread.

Sorry I think it is the derby boot? 

It is the black ones in Jeffswood's pictures.

Jeffswood describes it as a blucher. Don't know if that is the same as a derby boot. 

Once again I'm sorry for being such an amateur at this.

post #31539 of 48168
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Why is it that when I see a shell shoe on it's first wear out in the real world they already have rolls?  How much wear does it take before the rolls appear?

These weren't new - just new to me. However, they arent that worn. Thanks for the compliment though!!!
post #31540 of 48168
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Originally Posted by Winston S. View Post


The Fifth Streets are low enough I don't think you need speed hooks. I don't lace mine through to the top. I have it laced to the second to last hole from the top. I'm not sure which boots you are talking about. There is a derby boot, oxford boot, and balmoral boot in that thread.

Sorry for spamming. I think the ones I showed you may be the bayfields. I basically want the bayfields but chukka boot height. I don't think I can sport boots that come up that high. 

post #31541 of 48168
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Originally Posted by movoblast View Post

Sorry I think it is the derby boot? 
It is the black ones in Jeffswood's pictures.
Jeffswood describes it as a blucher. Don't know if that is the same as a derby boot. 
Once again I'm sorry for being such an amateur at this.
No apologies needed, it's how you learn.

The boot in that photo is indeed the Allen Edmonds Bayfield. You might find some on crazy sale at Lands End, but their QC is apparently hit and miss. Alternately you can scroll back through the last few months' worth of posts and get the general gist that one can call Styleforvm Special Crack Support Employee Allison at Allen Edmonds who can arrange for a Bayfield to be made to your specifications (any size they offer, any leather they offer, nearly any detailing you want that doesn't involve modifying the leather pattern) over the span of about eight weeks.

(full disclaimer: I did the above last week, for a size 14AA Bayfield in English Tan Dublin leather with a heavy lugged sole and some other wacky details, and am way excited about its arrival late next month.)
post #31542 of 48168
Got an email late today notifying me that my webgem shell cordovan Jeffersons shipped today. Woo Hoo. Can't wait. I will post pics as soon as they arrive.
post #31543 of 48168
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Originally Posted by Winston S. View Post

From what I understand, the welt is a layer on top of the midsole. You don't have a wheeled edge, the welt is wheeled. The edge is the side of the shoe which encompasses the side of the welt, the midsole and the sole of the shoe. The Fifth Streets are an ankle height cap toe boot, but they have a medallion.

 

+1 That is my understanding and basically what Allison said when she asked what welt color I wanted. I didn't think I needed to specify for a flat welt. I thought I knew about shoes, but I was schooled. Also, there is no Chili edge dressing, it's only a welt color. Allison mentioned there's confusion about this. The welt edges that look more natural or "wood-like" are the transparent ones.

 

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Originally Posted by BackInTheJox View Post
 

Brand new brown Delrays.

 

I know they're not the fanciest shoes in the world, but Delrays are my workhorse (I have them in Chili, and I had a real old pair in brown).  They're fantastic every day shoes, especially with a pair of chinos or cotton pants.  I don't know why SF seems to be lukewarm at best when it comes to them/their split toe, but they're some of the most versatile (and best looking) shoes AE makes.  And they're made on the best last there is.

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I think the last and the shoe is great. I agree that they are a versatile shoe. I think heavier stitching on the apron/split toe would give it a little more character. The Parkway is similar, but a 3 last and split toe don't appeal to me.

 

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Got an email late today notifying me that my webgem shell cordovan Jeffersons shipped today. Woo Hoo. Can't wait. I will post pics as soon as they arrive.

 

Nice. I'm excited to see them :cheers:

post #31544 of 48168
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Originally Posted by NWTeal View Post

I didn't think I needed to specify for a flat welt.

I would confirm this. If you want a specific welt it would suck to get a type of welt you didn't want on an MTO.
post #31545 of 48168
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Originally Posted by GOP Shoe Guy View Post

Got an email late today notifying me that my webgem shell cordovan Jeffersons shipped today. Woo Hoo. Can't wait. I will post pics as soon as they arrive.

I got a ship confirmation tonight for the shell Jeffersons as well. Considering that I ordered them on their last day of availability, I'm kind of surprised that they are ready so quick (of course, AE did promise delivery by 10/15). I should see them on Monday.icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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