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post #31306 of 51013
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Originally Posted by tifosi View Post


For me; I'd pony up the $115 for shell.

Keeping in mind that the seconds may be of "lesser" quality than firsts? 

 

Now that I'm thinking about it further, I have another observation/question.  With shell shoes, it's much more common for them to have quite the shine to them if properly taken care of, whereas calf shoes generally don't have a similar shine to them unless the person so desires.  I'm curious as to how SFers feel about wearing shell in a more casual environment such as with jeans and chinos.  My office is pretty much standard business-casual, and there are times where I feel my cambridges are actually too "formal" (I know there are different schools of thought regarding how formal wingtips are) for my pair of chinos or khakis.  Believe it or not, there have been times where I've wished I had a pair of Mcallisters in the new dark burgundy because I feel those would be more appropriate compared to the Cambridges.  Do any of you feel this way?  Does what I'm saying even make sense?  I don't want to pick up a pair of shell patriots and feel like they don't "go" with as much as I'd like.  I want to wear them in as many environments as possible. 

post #31307 of 51013
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Originally Posted by jch1 View Post

Keeping in mind that the seconds may be of "lesser" quality than firsts? 

Now that I'm thinking about it further, I have another observation/question.  With shell shoes, it's much more common for them to have quite the shine to them if properly taken care of, whereas calf shoes generally don't have a similar shine to them unless the person so desires.  I'm curious as to how SFers feel about wearing shell in a more casual environment such as with jeans and chinos.  My office is pretty much standard business-casual, and there are times where I feel my cambridges are actually too "formal" (I know there are different schools of thought regarding how formal wingtips are) for my pair of chinos or khakis.  Believe it or not, there have been times where I've wished I had a pair of Mcallisters in the new dark burgundy because I feel those would be more appropriate compared to the Cambridges.  Do any of you feel this way?  Does what I'm saying even make sense?  I don't want to pick up a pair of shell patriots and feel like they don't "go" with as much as I'd like.  I want to wear them in as many environments as possible. 
I don't think the fact that the Cambridge are shell make them more formal. It is the style of shoe. I don't wear balmorals with jeans. I do, however, wear them to my business casual office with khakis and I think they work with a nice oxford shirt.
I have quite a few pairs of shell and I wear them all with denim except for the balmorals. Nobody says you have to develop a high shine on shell like most of the members here desire. They usually have a nice, satin glow which is quite appealing.
post #31308 of 51013
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Originally Posted by jch1 View Post
 

Keeping in mind that the seconds may be of "lesser" quality than firsts? 

 

Now that I'm thinking about it further, I have another observation/question.  With shell shoes, it's much more common for them to have quite the shine to them if properly taken care of, whereas calf shoes generally don't have a similar shine to them unless the person so desires.  I'm curious as to how SFers feel about wearing shell in a more casual environment such as with jeans and chinos.  My office is pretty much standard business-casual, and there are times where I feel my cambridges are actually too "formal" (I know there are different schools of thought regarding how formal wingtips are) for my pair of chinos or khakis.  Believe it or not, there have been times where I've wished I had a pair of Mcallisters in the new dark burgundy because I feel those would be more appropriate compared to the Cambridges.  Do any of you feel this way?  Does what I'm saying even make sense?  I don't want to pick up a pair of shell patriots and feel like they don't "go" with as much as I'd like.  I want to wear them in as many environments as possible. 

 

Shell shoes don't usually have a high shine - more of a "glow."  I work in a business casual environment too- though it sounds like it is more formal than yours.  Typically, I wear dress pants with or without a jacket Mon-Thurs and chinos or even jeans sometimes on Fridays.  I wear most of my shell shoes (except my Park Aves) with most anything.  I have been known to wear my burgundy shell MacNeils and Leeds with jeans frequently.  I will admit that I don't wear my burgundy Cambridges with chinos frequently, but I have before and didn't feel out of place.  

 

During the summer, I end up wearing loafers mostly, and my shell Patriots (I have burgundy and brown shell Patriots) get worn with anything from shorts to jeans to dress slacks with a sport coat.  

post #31309 of 51013

Kind of on topic, do you guys know what AE models come in Brown Shell Cordovan?

 

I know Strand and Patriot.. any others?

 

:fistbump:

post #31310 of 51013
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Originally Posted by jungleroller View Post
 

Kind of on topic, do you guys know what AE models come in Brown Shell Cordovan?

 

I know Strand and Patriot.. any others?

 

:fistbump:

 

You can get ANY of them in brown shell right now for $505.  The AE CEO made an offer to waive the MTO fee for Styleforum members, and there is a sale going on right now which brings the usual $595 price down to $505.  Pretty sweet deal.  

 

Edit, to answer your question directly: until recently, AE also included brown shell as a stock option for the Dundee, the Park Ave and the Norwich.  

post #31311 of 51013

Thanks thats what I was gathering from reading through here.  

post #31312 of 51013
My understanding is that all other things being equal, shell cordovan is a less formal material than calfskin. I wear it with jeans on a weekly basis -- in fact, I don't know that I'd wear anything but jeans with my black shell Leeds.
post #31313 of 51013

After my trip to Horween yesterday (will post my reflections in a bit, plus, as a bonus, Nick has kindly offered to take on the questions) I realized that I really like the CXL leather, especially in dark navy and black. This said, does anyone know if AE has any of those in stock for an MTO?

post #31314 of 51013
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Originally Posted by cincikid View Post
 

After my trip to Horween yesterday (will post my reflections in a bit, plus, as a bonus, Nick has kindly offered to take on the questions) I realized that I really like the CXL leather, especially in dark navy and black. This said, does anyone know if AE has any of those in stock for an MTO?

I just watched the video on AE's website and found out how close Horween is to me.  :)

post #31315 of 51013
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Originally Posted by cincikid View Post

After my trip to Horween yesterday (will post my reflections in a bit, plus, as a bonus, Nick has kindly offered to take on the questions) I realized that I really like the CXL leather, especially in dark navy and black. This said, does anyone know if AE has any of those in stock for an MTO?
I don't think AE uses much CXL do they?
post #31316 of 51013

I've got a pair of North Plattes in CXL.  

post #31317 of 51013
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Originally Posted by jch1 View Post
 

Keeping in mind that the seconds may be of "lesser" quality than firsts?

 

Now that I'm thinking about it further, I have another observation/question.  With shell shoes, it's much more common for them to have quite the shine to them if properly taken care of, whereas calf shoes generally don't have a similar shine to them unless the person so desires.  I'm curious as to how SFers feel about wearing shell in a more casual environment such as with jeans and chinos.  My office is pretty much standard business-casual, and there are times where I feel my cambridges are actually too "formal" (I know there are different schools of thought regarding how formal wingtips are) for my pair of chinos or khakis.  Believe it or not, there have been times where I've wished I had a pair of Mcallisters in the new dark burgundy because I feel those would be more appropriate compared to the Cambridges.  Do any of you feel this way?  Does what I'm saying even make sense?  I don't want to pick up a pair of shell patriots and feel like they don't "go" with as much as I'd like.  I want to wear them in as many environments as possible.

I'm keeping mine to a low shine. The high shine, looking more like patent leather shine, is not for me and looks strange with casual clothes IMO. Just got off the phone from ordering burgundy shell Bradley and I am beyond tapped for shoe budget for a while. They too will get a good low shine. Enough to show depth and get rid of the hazy sheen they would otherwise have but well below the mirror-like finish that could be achieved.

post #31318 of 51013
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Originally Posted by tifosi View Post


I don't think AE uses much CXL do they?

I've only seen brown, but that's about it. 

post #31319 of 51013
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Originally Posted by tifosi View Post


I don't think AE uses much CXL do they?

I really like my CXL Bayfields but those are only available (non-MTO) through Lands' End and, I think, only in D width. But, at $260, they are a good deal.

post #31320 of 51013
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Originally Posted by cincikid View Post
 

After my trip to Horween yesterday (will post my reflections in a bit, plus, as a bonus, Nick has kindly offered to take on the questions) I realized that I really like the CXL leather, especially in dark navy and black. This said, does anyone know if AE has any of those in stock for an MTO?

I found the answer after a bit of an internet search. Apparently AE does use the CXL for a number of their shoes, Bayfields abnd North Platters including. They do also use both black and brown CXL for the El Paso, which is made in the Dominican Republic. I wonder though whether they might have black CXL for an MTO at the Port Washington warehouse? 

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