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Originally Posted by evolved View Post
 

I wasn't aware that the lining could be changed....good to know, even though I'm not sure if I'll opt for another color. 

 

As far as sole edge colors go, my impression is that  natural is the lightest, followed by light brown transparent, followed by chili.....right? 

 

Any reason why you went with one over the other? 

 

And did you go with a wheeled edge?

 

So I asked Allison about the JR vs. butyl and here's what she said:

 

The JR Rendendbach outsole is made with a higher grade leather, it’s a little more “heavy duty”. The Double Butyl is our standard double oak leather outsole used on our Calf version of the Leeds, impregnated with oils to help repel moisture. I would not say one is superior to other, it’s based on how you will be wearing the footwear, and person preference. I feel if you are going to invest in the upper being shell cordovan, you are better off going with the Rendenbach outsole. 

post #29957 of 46463
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Originally Posted by wdahab View Post


Oh I wouldn't call that the dark #8. It's not as light as it sometimes is, but my wallet and watch strap are both much, much, much darker than that, much closer to the #8 pictures AE has on their website. My 721s are more like the picture you sent. Though, they've gotten a bit darker over the past year, from sunlight I suppose. Anyway, that is a gorgeous color of #8, I hope my MacNeils are like that.

 

Thanks - I like they way they turned out too, but they are certainly darker than my older AE burgundy shell: 

 

700  700 AE Macneil  cambridge 1.jpg

 

Good luck with yours!  If they arrive darker than you would like, do some damp cloth + brushing... 

post #29958 of 46463
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Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post

Does anyone have an opinion on how the Mora 2.0 fits compared to something on the 5 last? I have a pair of 8D Fifth Aves that are very snug width and volume wise - not enough to make me not wear them, but enough to ensure I'd want something a little bigger for my next pair!

mora 2.0 is on the 108 last: most people are familiar with this last on the Delray. It is a fuller fit than the 5 last that your Fifth Aves are on, and just a bit shorter.
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Originally Posted by cincikid View Post
 

 

So I asked Allison about the JR vs. butyl and here's what she said:

 

The JR Rendendbach outsole is made with a higher grade leather, it’s a little more “heavy duty”. The Double Butyl is our standard double oak leather outsole used on our Calf version of the Leeds, impregnated with oils to help repel moisture. I would not say one is superior to other, it’s based on how you will be wearing the footwear, and person preference. I feel if you are going to invest in the upper being shell cordovan, you are better off going with the Rendenbach outsole. 

 

Thanks for the research, and I agree with her.  I always go with JR if I can.  

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Pics? I see you had a heel tap problem...fixed? Are your initial concerns of the elastic at the strap resolved?

 

I emailed AE and they immediately provided a UPS shipping label to have it fixed.  I didn't have a box to ship it in so I kept putting it off until I decided to just have a cobbler glue it on for a few bucks.  The heel tap kind of caught on my desk chair and it came off.  I was a little miffed as it didn't take very much force for it to come off. However, I wouldn't let that deter you from getting them.  I'm picking it up from the cobbler tomorrow so I could take pictures then.

 
As far as the strap goes it just seemed like a weird thing for elastic to be part of a cordovan shoe.  Some people on here explained they had durability issues with the noriwch when they were using fully leather straps.  The elastic fixed that.  I emailed AE and they confirmed the elastic can be replaced during recrafting so I'm not worried.
 
Basically, if you are looking for a shell monk strap the Norwich is a great choice.  I'm very happy all things considered.
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Has anyone done an MTO Kenilworth in shell? I would love a PTB that's a little sleeker than the Leeds (if I had $600 burning a hole in my pocket)

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Is there any discernible difference in leather/build quality between BB Park Aves and the AE version? The sole on the BBs is topy-ed leather right?
post #29963 of 46463
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Originally Posted by Jon Cheddar View Post

Has anyone done an MTO Kenilworth in shell? I would love a PTB that's a little sleeker than the Leeds (if I had $600 burning a hole in my pocket)

Someone posted a pair of MTO burgundy shell Kenilworths several pages ago.

I did a pair in walnut shell and liked the results a lot. I do wish I had requested wheeled sole edges for mine though.


post #29964 of 46463
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Is there any discernible difference in leather/build quality between BB Park Aves and the AE version? The sole on the BBs is topy-ed leather right?

 

It's not a topy, but rather a V-tread rubber outsole that is stitched to the sole and not glued as topy.

post #29965 of 46463
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Originally Posted by cincikid View Post

It's not a topy, but rather a V-tread rubber outsole that is stitched to the sole and not glued as topy.

Ah gotcha. Is there any disadvantage to that? Will AE recraft the BB version?
post #29966 of 46463
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Originally Posted by MacktasticGDogg View Post


Someone posted a pair of MTO burgundy shell Kenilworths several pages ago.

I did a pair in walnut shell and liked the results a lot. I do wish I had requested wheeled sole edges for mine though.


 

You are a god among men in this thread just for those makeups. Well done- I am supremely jealous

post #29967 of 46463
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Originally Posted by 850csi View Post


Ah gotcha. Is there any disadvantage to that? Will AE recraft the BB version?

 

I have been told multiple times that as long as the shoes are 360 degree Goodyear Welted, they will recraft them. I have not had any personal experience doing this though.

post #29968 of 46463
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Originally Posted by 850csi View Post

Is there any discernible difference in leather/build quality between BB Park Aves and the AE version? The sole on the BBs is topy-ed leather right?

 

In addition to the V-tread sole, the BB version has a poron insole that's a little thicker than the normal AE leather insole. This changes the fit slightly (less room for your instep on a balmoral). Also, while some find the poron insole more comfortable, it will not usually last as long as the usual leather insole, negatively affecting shoe longevity.

 

Some people have also posted in this thread that the calfskin used is of lesser quality on the BB shoes as well, which could be a concern.

 

That said, I still picked up a pair of BB seconds for $149.00 in one of the sales these last few months. Great price for a Park Avenue on rainy days, even if it isn't as good as the original.

 

Edit: People have also posted replies from AE customer service saying that AE will recraft AE for BB shoes, replacing them with the original V-tread BB sole. Some have also reported being told AE won't recraft them, but their responses weren't usually as detailed (no email chain, etc.). If I had to bet, I'd wager on AE recrafting them. Even if not, I'm sure you can send them off to B. Nelson in NYC to have it done since they are Goodyear welted.

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Originally Posted by cincikid View Post
 

 

So I asked Allison about the JR vs. butyl and here's what she said:

 

The JR Rendendbach outsole is made with a higher grade leather, it’s a little more “heavy duty”. The Double Butyl is our standard double oak leather outsole used on our Calf version of the Leeds, impregnated with oils to help repel moisture. I would not say one is superior to other, it’s based on how you will be wearing the footwear, and person preference. I feel if you are going to invest in the upper being shell cordovan, you are better off going with the Rendenbach outsole. 

Huh, good to know.  Maybe I'll switch my order to JR. 

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Oh, but it isn't just a thread...it's a lifestyle for many.

 

 

/no that sale is over but there will surely be another soon, they've been coming somewhat regularly.

indeed it is my friend... Indeed it is!:fistbump:

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