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post #28516 of 46551
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Originally Posted by AdamAdam View Post
 

 

 

 

 

MWS, thank you for the detailed response. I agree that $250 is too much for shoes like that as I got my McAllister and Strand firsts for $249 and $229 during sales. I appreciate the info so that I know what to look for and the comment about repairing makes sense. Even if a cheaper shoe can be repaired, the poor quality upper will make it not worth it.

 

Based on cost-to-value, style and customer service, I lean towards AE but there are a few things I've seen in other brands that I like so the education on what to look for is helpful. I know this is an AE appreciation thread but if anyone knows where to try on Carmina, Meermin, Loake, Tricker's, etc. I'd love to know.

 

Thanks.

 

Sky Valet in Washington D.C. (Georgetown) has a decent assortment.  Last time I was there, they had Carmina, Loake, Crockett & Jones, Alden, Edward Green, and a couple others.  I don't remember seeing any Meermin or Tricker's there.  

post #28517 of 46551
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Originally Posted by MSchapiro View Post
 

What's the matter with the poron?

 

Well, it changes the fit characteristics of the shoe to a degree, but my real issue with it is the lower longevity potential.  The insole is the true foundation of a shoe, which is something that many people don't realize.  Hand-welted shoes (the best shoes money can buy) have extremely heavy insoles, often 1/4 inch thick or so.  Goodyear-welted shoes don't require such a heavy insole, but a relatively thick piece of leather is still preferred by the better manufacturers (including AE's standard line of shoes).  Most good quality Goodyear-welted shoes have a nice leather insole that is somewhere around the thickness of a leather belt, give or take.  Good quality leather is the best material for an insole for the same reasons that it is important for the leather upper.  The inherent properties of quality leather simply make for a better product that will last as long as possible.  

 

Poron insoles are fiberboard (a hard piece of board that is a composite of paper and fiberglass), which is then covered with a very thin piece of high-tech (created by NASA) foam and wrapped in a very thin piece of leather for aesthetics.  Fiberboard doesn't respond well to moisture for the same reasons that cardboard or masonite siding on houses don't.  Eventually your shoes will get wet, even if it's only from perspiration.  I'm not saying that shoes with Poron insoles are guaranteed to rot from the inside out and fail sooner than shoes with high quality leather ones.  However, I am saying that it is a weak link in a shoe if you are interested in making your shoes last as long as possible.  Weak links are things that people don't think to give consideration to in shoes that will be disposed of after a year or two.  However, if you are hoping to make a pair of shoes last for 15-20 years and 4-6 resolings, then weak links become a major factor to consider in whether they will make it that long.  

 

I have a pair of AE's with a fiberboard/foam insole, so I'm not saying that I'll never buy them, especially if the model is exactly what I want.  But, I do wish AE would make it an easy decision and just not make shoes with Poron insoles. :violin: 

post #28518 of 46551
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Originally Posted by mdubs View Post
 

Here are my comparison pictures that I promised. Repp did a good job of summarizing it, but in mine, Ravello and the Walnut Shell look VERY similar... Taken in both natural light and direct sun. I have included the widest variety that I could... I have more Ravello coming in later this month sometime.

 

Comparison lineup (from left to right): Alden Cigar LHS, Crocket and Jones (for Ralph Lauren) Brown Cordovan Marlow Wingtips, Allen Edmonds Walnut Shell Cordovan, Alden Ravello NSTs, Alden Whiskey LWB. First picture hopefully sets the overall scene for you.

 

 

 

 

Same lineup, but this time from an angle. In natural light, but not direct sun, my Ravello looks darker than the Walnut Shell.

 

 

 

Here is just the Walnut and Ravello in direct sun light (Walnut Shell left, Ravello Shell right). In direct sun, they look much closer to one another.

 

 

 

Here is a closeup in direct sun (Walnut Shell left, Ravello Shell right).

 

 

Hope that this helps. But as you can see from my post versus Repp's, the colors vary quite a bit within any tone (most of the Dalton's in Walnut Shell that I have seen are a bit darker than my Strands).

 

-Mike

Thanks.  Nice Collection.  I know this is the AE thread but those NSTs spectacular.  Wear in good health.

post #28519 of 46551
Anyone know what last Bayfields are on?
post #28520 of 46551
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Originally Posted by GOP Shoe Guy View Post
 

All Shell Cordovan seconds are on sale at the shoe bank for $299. Shirley was able to locate the MTO Walnut Shell Cordovan Macneils I had made over the summer that did not pass inspection. I can't wait for them to arrive. They have a brown welt, the ones I got I had them change it to a natural. She said she can't see why they are seconds. I am so excited, Walnut Shell for $299. :)

 

What?!  Already there, or this is expected when?

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MWS, thank you for the detailed response. I agree that $250 is too much for shoes like that as I got my McAllister and Strand firsts for $249 and $229 during sales. I appreciate the info so that I know what to look for and the comment about repairing makes sense. Even if a cheaper shoe can be repaired, the poor quality upper will make it not worth it.

Based on cost-to-value, style and customer service, I lean towards AE but there are a few things I've seen in other brands that I like so the education on what to look for is helpful. I know this is an AE appreciation thread but if anyone knows where to try on Carmina, Meermin, Loake, Tricker's, etc. I'd love to know.

Thanks.

Sky Valet in Washington D.C. (Georgetown) has a decent assortment.  Last time I was there, they had Carmina, Loake, Crockett & Jones, Alden, Edward Green, and a couple others.  I don't remember seeing any Meermin or Tricker's there.  

European lasts are more oval square compare to AE roundness, so they will look quite different even on the same style, and they will cost more than AE.
post #28522 of 46551
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post
 

 

What?!  Already there, or this is expected when?

I am not sure how long the sale goes. I emailed the PW Shoe Bank yesterday and Shirley told me all shell seconds were $299. I am guessing what they have will not last long. As for what I ordered, I think I was a rare exception to get a pair of Walnut Shell. In fact, they did not appear on the list she sent me. I had her search for them because I knew that the MTO shoe I had made that did not pass inspection was eventually going to end up at the shoe bank. I had asked a few times with no luck, but Shirley found it. They ship today. Can't wait to get them. 

 

The ones coming have a brown welt. The ones I already got have a natural. I had seen a pic of the natural and liked it. When Allison told me the shoe didn't pass inspection and they had to make me a different pair, I asked if I could change to a natural welt. She said yes. So now I will have a pair with natural and brown welts.

 

Here is a pic of mine with the natural welt. I will post the seconds with the brown welt when they come. Shirley said she could not figure out why they are seconds. 

 

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post #28523 of 46551
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Originally Posted by PlaceboFX View Post

Also, does anyone know if this shell sale is only at the Shoe Bank, or at all the outlets? I like the Jeffersonville outlet. They've treated me well through 3 pairs of seconds this year.

Email them or call them when they open today. I bet it applies to all outlets and the shoe bank.
post #28524 of 46551
Thanks for the heads up on the $299 sale. Cordovan Daltons on the way!! Woo hoo!
post #28525 of 46551

That was the plan if nobody answered by 10 am today! And it's confirmed, the $299 for shell cordovan seconds sale is running at all outlets. I'm hoping I get the pair I just requested!.

 

In my excitement I forgot to ask how long the sale was running. I'll ask when they call me back about whether or not I'll be expecting a nice Burgundy Shell Cambridge...

 

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Originally Posted by bucksfan View Post


Email them or call them when they open today. I bet it applies to all outlets and the shoe bank.
post #28526 of 46551
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Originally Posted by fastfiat81 View Post

Thanks for the heads up on the $299 sale. Cordovan Daltons on the way!! Woo hoo!

Received a list myself just now, but unfortunately nothing I was hoping for. The best option is the Park Avenue in black or brown but I have no use for such a formal shoe in the next few years. Other options are the Randolph, Patriot, Westchester, Bradley, Norwich, Cambridge in black.

 

I do however see some purple suede Strands on the list. Wonder where that came from. 

 

On another note, I'm wearing my Elgins for the first time today. 

 

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The Elgins are one of my favorite AE shoes and my very first AE purchase at the ShoeBank in Brookfield.

 

They look great with those socks too tietherope

 

 

 

 

This darn $299 Shell sale has me thinking hard about another pair. Unreal the deals AE keeps spitting out!!

post #28528 of 46551
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Originally Posted by tampatravel View Post

The Elgins are one of my favorite AE shoes and my very first AE purchase at the ShoeBank in Brookfield.

They look great with those socks too tietherope




This darn $299 Shell sale has me thinking hard about another pair. Unreal the deals AE keeps spitting out!!
Me too. I just requested a list (just in case). haha
post #28529 of 46551

Nothing in my size that I was interested in.  :cloud:

post #28530 of 46551
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

Nothing in my size that I was interested in.  cloud.gif
I have a feeling, considering my size, I'll have the same issue. My size seems to be too popular.
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