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post #27871 of 46519
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Originally Posted by Pastor View Post


For me AE has the edge in a few categories. Price is the biggest. I went with the AE patriots in burgundy shell and brown shell over the Alden LHS. The reason was primarily price. I got both pair (as seconds) for what I would have paid for one pair of Aldens. Plus you can't even get Alden cigar right now. The other area where I like AE is with their non traditional colors. I have the Daltons in walnut shell and the Dundees in cappuccino shell. While these colors may be soon gone from AE I liked them and picked them up (at full retail) because of their uniqueness. If, in the future, all AE offers in shell is black, burgundy and the occasional brown then Alden will probably be the better value unless you can get AE's on sale.

For me Alden makes a great casual shoe/boot and all my Aldens are worn with casual dress. AE excels in dressier situations which for me is most of the time. Let's face it, $700 for shoes/boots is expensive and the quality/value is not there at that price point. For another $100 I can get Carmina Shell or even Vass calf which both of these are far higher quality than anything AE or Alden makes. I've even seen some Edward Green shoes on sale at the $850 price point.

The greatest strength that I see in AE is that their prices are low compared to other brands. If this changes then they will lose their appeal. $345 (the current price of calf models) is higher than what most people will pay for shoes but that price is at least attainable. I know i've personally turned 5-6 guys to AE who would have never paid that kind of price without some prompting and pushing from me. Now that they have tried AE they will be customers for life unless the prices continue to sneak up. If that happens they will probably move to other brands. AE has a great niche in the market between lesser quality brands such as Cole Haan, Johntson and Murphy, Kenneth Cole and higher quality brands such as Crockett and Jones and Carmina. In my opinion AE needs to stay in that niche and if on occasion they can offer something unique (like they did with the walnut and cappuccino webgems) then all the better.

 

Well said.  I think AE is fully aware of this niche that they have created which is largely due to their price point.  I'd be surprised if it ever significantly changes.  I am sure prices will inevitably sneak up, but the prices of the other brands will likely sneak up accordingly.  Thus, the niche will likely still exist.  

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Originally Posted by mmmtttt View Post

Thanks for the advice, the answer from the AE store was actually that the 1 last was wider than the 5 which confused me a little.
 

and then comes the opposite answer from subutai, im sad now.

 

edit : subutai's answer does confirm the AE salesman's affirmation but is the opposite of  what people have been saying before.

 

Just to add my .02, I'm an 8E in the 5 and an 8.5D in the 1. I probably could have even gone with a 9 in the 1 if that was my only option.

 

To me the 1 last definitely fits wider than the 5.

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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post

 

Well said.  I think AE is fully aware of this niche that they have created which is largely due to their price point.  I'd be surprised if it ever significantly changes.  I am sure prices will inevitably sneak up, but the prices of the other brands will likely sneak up accordingly.  Thus, the niche will likely still exist.  

 

The other difference is that AE is frequently putting its models on sale for 25-33% off, so very few people are actually paying $345 plus tax for a pair of calfskin AE's.  As I can get Carmina for $400 shipped, I'd be hard pressed to pay $350 plus tax for AE.

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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post

 

I'm surprised you feel that strongly about the suede Strand.  I have no plans to order them, and I have actually never owned a pair of suede shoes.  The Fullerton does strike me as something I'd wear, but even it will probably just be something I enjoy looking at pictures of rather than wearing, unless I can't say no to a sale down the road (or when they go on clearance a year from now).  That said, I thought there was a pretty large outcry for AE to make the Strand in suede, no?  

 

My tongue was firmly planted in my cheek on this one.  I think I may pick up the suede Strand this Fall.

 

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My immediate issue with them wasn't the suede.  I don't like the sole.  If I were ever to consider them, I'd want a solid leather sole.  I think the Butyl leather sole would compliment the tone of the suede well.  Also, some disagreed with me, but the pictures definitely indicate a foam insole based on the wrinkled appearance.  I realize that some of AE's photos are misleading, and don't portray reality, but for me the jury is out on this one until I see it in person or someone confirms that they are the solid leather insoles (despite what one of the AE customer service people said online).  I shy away from the Poron and foam insoles as much as possible.  

 

I actually really like the danite sole for this one.  I intend to wear them as a versatile shoe (jeans on occasion, with slacks and with flannels and a cashmere blazer), so I think it fits nicely with this versatility as well as the theory that suede is a great rainy day shoe.

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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

 

The other difference is that AE is frequently putting its models on sale for 25-33% off, so very few people are actually paying $345 plus tax for a pair of calfskin AE's.  As I can get Carmina for $400 shipped, I'd be hard pressed to pay $350 plus tax for AE.

 

Quite true.

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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

 

My tongue was firmly planted in my cheek on this one.  I think I may pick up the suede Strand this Fall.

 

 

I actually really like the danite sole for this one.  I intend to wear them as a versatile shoe (jeans on occasion, with slacks and with flannels and a cashmere blazer), so I think it fits nicely with this versatility as well as the theory that suede is a great rainy day shoe.

 

Ah, I completely missed that.  

post #27877 of 46519
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Now, with regard to those suede strands, they are awful, ugly, an abomination.  I don't think AE could give them away.  They need to go immediately to the clearance line for $99 per pair.

 

Pish Posh. These are a complete travesty. I showed a few patients of mine pictures of them and moments later they suffered from hysterical blindness. With all of the procedures that must be done, I will make enough $ to purchase a pair, which I guess I will...to possibly illicit such reactions in the future (shhh, don't tell my patients this condition will resolve on its own).

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MWS, you have never owned a suede shoe?? Dies that include, boots, chukkas, etc. as well? 

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MWS, you have never owned a suede shoe?? Dies that include, boots, chukkas, etc. as well? 

 

Correct. biggrin.gif

 

I'm missing out on something huh?

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I have three pair of suede shoes from AE. Cambridge in brown, Malvern in brown, and Amok in Snuff. The Malverns and Amoks are great but the suede on the Cambridge model seems to be different. I've literally only wore the Cambridge shoes 3-4 times because the suede looks bad. It has little to no nap but on the toes the suede is stiff and it looks like it perpetually shedding. I've given then a good brushing but so far it hasn't helped. Now that it's getting fall i'm going to get them back out and see if I can work on them again.
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Originally Posted by OptoDoc View Post

 

Pish Posh. These are a complete travesty. I showed a few patients of mine pictures of them and moments later they suffered from hysterical blindness. With all of the procedures that must be done, I will make enough $ to purchase a pair, which I guess I will...to possibly illicit such reactions in the future (shhh, don't tell my patients this condition will resolve on its own).


lol...  yeah...  I just about had an aneurysm.  Even worse, I work at a mental hospital and showed some of the patients a picture of them... and well...  lets just say that a few of the patients I work with are mostly bald, and I might not be working here for much longer.  Anything over 99$ a pair is most unreasonable!

post #27882 of 46519
Just wanted to confirm with everyone -I called the shoe bank today to get a return label. They said they now charge $10 for the return label or I will just have to pay to ship it back?
post #27883 of 46519
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Just wanted to confirm with everyone -I called the shoe bank today to get a return label. They said they now charge $10 for the return label or I will just have to pay to ship it back?

 

Well, it was fun while it lasted. musicboohoo[1].gif

post #27884 of 46519
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Originally Posted by poena View Post

my new strands are creasing in front of the captoe on just the left shoe... :-/

Mine as well; a crease just barely on the toe side of the seem (not actually in the captoe or in the medallion). Like most people, your left foot is probably a bit larger than your right. This, and possible slight differences in gait between your feet, are likely contributors. It doesn't crease the medallion for me. So, I'm happy and see this as a non-issue. You might be able to fiddle with different lengths and widths to avoid this but I'm not sure the shoes will be comfortable doing that and you might end up creating other problems.

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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post

 

Well, it was fun while it lasted. musicboohoo%5B1%5D.gif

 

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Just wanted to confirm with everyone -I called the shoe bank today to get a return label. They said they now charge $10 for the return label or I will just have to pay to ship it back?

 

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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post

 

Well, it was fun while it lasted. musicboohoo%5B1%5D.gif

It's OK. I mean I don't mine it when I'm getting great service and the shoes at an awesome price.

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