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post #26311 of 51071
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Originally Posted by reminimjer View Post

Thanks for the advice. If I do keep them and the cracks worsen and the sole starts falling apart there, I'd assume AE would help me out seeing as that part of the sole really sees absolutely no wear.

 

I think there would be a good chance that they would stand behind them if that were to take place (assuming it happened within a reasonable time frame).  But, I really doubt you will ever see issues. 

post #26312 of 51071
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Originally Posted by VinnyMac View Post

I'm not sure if that's true or not. If you've done it, then I'll take your word for it. I'd guess that they'd refund the difference between the normal price of the first pair and what you paid. That's the way that most companies deal with this sort of issue. It's the employees who don't know better who fall for that.

I did it in the past, but certainly not for the purpose of screwing AE and getting one pair for $125. During the spring sale I ended up with a pair of McGraw and Quintons and was hesitant about the latter. I eventually returned it and got $125 refunded back on the card. Same story happened today. I was not sure about a pair of AE Anchorage (a 2012 webgem build on MacNeil foundation but with wool inserts and on a mini lug sole) and asked if I'd be able to return it if the shoe won't be to my expectations, given the 2 for $250 sale. The sales rep. confirmed it and said the price for one pair would still be $125.  

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If I were to return a pair of seconds, would I be refunded my shipping cost for the return?

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What would you recommend for a care routine for new black Park Aves that will only be worn on average 6 times a year?

 

I have shoe trees in them and they're currently in the supplied bags.

post #26315 of 51071
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Originally Posted by athenianlion View Post

Thank you both. I had almost bought the Parks in merlot as my first pair. I think they may be my best bet? I'm not crazy about another pair of McAllisters, and feel I need something different than any of the loafers. I work in a business casual office.

How about merlot sheltons? Mighty handsome shoes...
post #26316 of 51071
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Originally Posted by peppercorn78 View Post


How about merlot sheltons? Mighty handsome shoes...

 

This is the reason AE needs to make a burgundy/merlot strand. NEED!!!!

post #26317 of 51071
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Originally Posted by masernaut View Post

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If I were to return a pair of seconds, would I be refunded my shipping cost for the return?

You could get a FedEx return label directly from the Shoebank. They said they would still be providing those for another week or so. 

post #26318 of 51071
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Originally Posted by Snoogz View Post

So far in my experience with all my AEs on a few dif lasts, my shoe size has always stayed the same. 10 EEE.

Just thinking aloud here, but perhaps there's less variation in the fit of different lasts at the EEE width.

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Is this anything to worry about (the inside lining of the sole looks glued, and glued unsuccessfully too)? I"m concerned that this will compromise the structure and durability. These are in my factory seconds.
post #26320 of 51071
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Originally Posted by ochong View Post

What would you recommend for a care routine for new black Park Aves that will only be worn on average 6 times a year?

I have shoe trees in them and they're currently in the supplied bags.
You're doing better than most already. I'd hit 'em with some renovateur, venetian shoe cream, AE conditioner/cleaner, or whatever floats your boat once or twice every year and wax polish as needed.
post #26321 of 51071
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Originally Posted by Nakedsnake View Post

Just bumping my last question, Do the Bayfields ever show up as seconds? I wouldn't mind a pair this winter.

I have not seen them but some on here have mentioned they show up from time to time.

 

They are still being made for Lands End so there is a chance that one could eventually become a second in your size. You could get on a waiting list from one of the outlets. I am a 10D on the 1 and 5 last and a 9.5D in the rough collection. When I ordered my shell Bayfields I talked to Deborah at length about fit because my black calf and CXL Bayfields in 10D both fit snug, just a bit too snug due to the poron insole. They are OK but at the end of the day walking more than a few miles I looked forward to taking them off. She told me they didn't fit and said she was buying them back from me. And sending me a pair in 10.5D and 10E to see which fit better and I could have my shell ones made in which size I picked. There were no more 10E available in the US so she sent the Malvern in 10E instead, they have a memory foam insole which make them fit smaller like the poron insole. I already knew the 10D Malvern didn't fit me as I had to return a pair last year. The 10.5D much to my surprise fit me perfectly with light to medium weight socks. And crease perfectly also, The 10E Malvern was still tight accross the ball of the foot and loose in the heel. I only paid $100 for the black calf Bayfields a year ago during the 2 for $200 seconds sale and paid $220 for the CXL through the military exchange. The trial seconds in black calf she sent me cost $199 so I purchased them as a replacement for the black calf Bayfields. Lands End is the only place that still carries the CXL Bayfield (D width only) but the 10.5D has not been available since I started looking a few months ago. They just showed up again Friday as being available so I am purchasing them. Even at the full price of $350 I feel they are well worth it.

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Originally Posted by rpearlberg View Post

has anyone seen the Elgin's in stock anywhere?  11D or 11E...

The Elgin is still available through Brooks Brothers as the Allen Edmonds for Brooks Brothers Burnished Perforated Captoes ITEM# MH00129. but only in D width. They have the poron insoles so not sure about fit compared to the standard Elgin.

post #26322 of 51071
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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post

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  Do you realize that you have just effectively destroyed your shoes!?  Those insoles are not intended to be removable!  There is a reason you were having to "rip" them out!  They are the foundation of the shoe, and the glue you are referring to is the canvas gemming!  The gemming is attached to the bottom of the insole with cement, and then the uppers and welt are stitched to the gemming.  Your shoes are now un-repairable!!!  puzzled.gif

With due respect your comment makes no sense at all. Under the insole there is the cork foot bed. The reason they use glue to attach the insoles so hard around the ball of the foot so the insole don’t move around . And all around the edges of the insole they weren’t attached with glue(glue mostly around the heel and the ball of the foot). With out the insole they look the same as a pair of AE(no insole). RL shoes being premium(!) they had attached those fancy full leather insole. I will take a picture of the details once I get some time. I may actually cut the insole to make half lining around the heel area.

And yes I could be wrong. For a healthy arguments sake do you have any proof to back up your claim ?

**And I am worried at all. I am happy with the results – 2 more pairs I will need to do the same. Wearing a pair today. Made such a big difference. I only wish I had ripped off those insoles earlier.**
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Originally Posted by md2010 View Post


With due respect your comment makes no sense at all. Under the insole there is the cork foot bed. The reason they use glue to attach the insoles so hard around the ball of the foot so the insole don’t move around . And all around the edges of the insole they weren’t attached with glue(glue mostly around the heel and the ball of the foot). With out the insole they look the same as a pair of AE(no insole). RL shoes being premium(!) they had attached those fancy full leather insole. I will take a picture of the details once I get some time. I may actually cut the insole to make half lining around the heel area.

And yes I could be wrong. For a healthy arguments sake do you have any proof to back up your claim ?

**And I am worried at all. I am happy with the results – 2 more pairs I will need to do the same. Wearing a pair today. Made such a big difference. I only wish I had ripped off those insoles earlier.**

 

You said you can see the cork foot bed, correct?  If you can see the cork foot bed, then you have ripped out the insole, and you have destroyed your shoes.  If there is still a thick piece of leather covering the cork foot bed, then you have only removed the sock liner.  Removing the sock liner isn't a big deal.  Trust me, if you have ripped out the insole from a Goodyear-welted shoe, you have destroyed your shoe. 

post #26324 of 51071
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Originally Posted by nosrep123 View Post

Is this anything to worry about (the inside lining of the sole looks glued, and glued unsuccessfully too)? I"m concerned that this will compromise the structure and durability. These are in my factory seconds.

 

No that's pretty common to see.  Don't worry about it. 

post #26325 of 51071
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Originally Posted by athenianlion View Post

Thank you both. I had almost bought the Parks in merlot as my first pair. I think they may be my best bet? I'm not crazy about another pair of McAllisters, and feel I need something different than any of the loafers. I work in a business casual office.

 

With the with cap toe and short wing covered...go for a monk strap!

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