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Originally Posted by Upward View Post

You want proof that Nordstrom sold seconds during the last sale?

 

Go to any Allen Edmonds corporate store and ask their manager. It helps if they have a Nordstrom close by, as AE stores got some of the Nordstrom sold shoes exchanged and have first hand experience. I told a sales guy at Nordstrom how badly my strands were creased after 2 wearings and he said once the shoes are worn once there is nothing they can do. The AE manager took one look at the shoes and said they NEVER should crease that way. He exchanged the Strands even though by that time it was six months later and I wore the shoes 10 times, and the shoes weren't even purchased at AE.

 

A salesperson I know at Nordstrom also said they sold out quickly and they pushed AE to send whatever they had available. Many people got stuck with seconds they purchased at Nordstrom if they did not make the presale.

 

BTW, this was my first time in an Allen Edmonds store. I was very loyal to Nordstorm in the past but they did not have Mcallister in merlot and I did not want it in black, and the sales associate didn't care if I purchased or not because there were 10 other shoppers. I went to AE to purchase the Mcallister in merlot. I asked the sales guy at AE if the Mcallister would crease the same as my Strands and he requested for me to bring in the Strands. At no time did I ask AE to exchange the shoes. The manager offered to exhange them.

 

I don't want this to turn into an argument, and please don't think that I am defending Nordstrom.  I have no loyalty to them, and have never purchased a single product from them.  That said, your experience above does not constitute a factory second.  A defect may arise in a first quality shoe, after it is sold and worn.  That isn't terribly unusual.  AE generally stands behind their product if this is the case.  Factory seconds are defective shoes that are caught at the AE factory before they are sent out, they are then branded with a "seconds" iron, and sent to outlets or discount stores (such as Nordstrom Rack).  The Allen Edmonds CEO himself said that they did not send factory seconds to regular Nordstrom stores, to dispel any rumors.  It sounds to me like you are assuming that you were deliberately sold a factory second because you found a defect in a shoe that was sold as a first quality one.  That's not what happened.  I am well aware of the issues they had last year during the sale, and many people were dissatisfied with their shoes.  However, these shoes did not have factory seconds markings on them.  

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Originally Posted by Upward View Post

You want proof that Nordstrom sold seconds during the last sale?

 

Go to any Allen Edmonds corporate store and ask their manager. It helps if they have a Nordstrom close by, as AE stores got some of the Nordstrom sold shoes exchanged and have first hand experience. I told a sales guy at Nordstrom how badly my strands were creased after 2 wearings and he said once the shoes are worn once there is nothing they can do. The AE manager took one look at the shoes and said they NEVER should crease that way. He exchanged the Strands even though by that time it was six months later and I wore the shoes 10 times, and the shoes weren't even purchased at AE.

 

A salesperson I know at Nordstrom also said they sold out quickly and they pushed AE to send whatever they had available. Many people got stuck with seconds they purchased at Nordstrom if they did not make the presale.

 

BTW, this was my first time in an Allen Edmonds store. I was very loyal to Nordstorm in the past but they did not have Mcallister in merlot and I did not want it in black, and the sales associate didn't care if I purchased or not because there were 10 other shoppers. I went to AE to purchase the Mcallister in merlot. I asked the sales guy at AE if the Mcallister would crease the same as my Strands and he requested for me to bring in the Strands. At no time did I ask AE to exchange the shoes. The manager offered to exhange them.

 

Money Well Spent was too kind to you.  For whatever reason, you clearly have an axe to grind with Nordstrom and continue to make slanderous accusations regarding Nordstrom that are contrary to everyone else's experience.  There are legions of posts in this thread where Nordstrom accepted returns on shoes that were worn for days, weeks or months due to a sizing issue or defect.  So, either you shop at the worst Nordstrom in the world or you are purposefully omitting critical facts.  Similarly, as MWS noted, the AE CEO posted to deny the rumor that Nordstrom was selling seconds.  So, it is amusing for you to challenge him to talk to individual store employees when the CEO has already spoken definitively on the issue.

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Who wants to see a bout between Upward and David Copeland on the topic of Nordstrom? I know I do!

FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
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Since we are talking about Nordstroms, whatever AE's CEO says means nothing to me, I will only believe it if it comes from David fight[1].gif

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The rumor that won't die...Nordstrom's selling 2nds. Yeah...like Nordstrom's wants to do that.

I do know Brooks Brothers was selling Alden 2nds. (tongue in cheek) ;-)
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Who wants to see a bout between Upward and David Copeland on the topic of Nordstrom? I know I do!

FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

+1
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Originally Posted by rydenfan View Post

Since we are talking about Nordstroms, whatever AE's CEO says means nothing to me, I will only
believe it if it comes from David fight%5B1%5D.gif

Ding!Ding!
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Originally Posted by Septimus View Post

Who wants to see a bout between Upward and David Copeland on the topic of Nordstrom? I know I do!

FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

 

confused.gif  Have you not yet realized that David Copeland and Upward are the same individual?  David moved to Montana to get treatment for his multiple personality disorder.  Two of his competing personalities are:  (i) Upward, who hates Nordstrom; and (ii) David, whose dream is to one day manage the shoe department at the Spokane, Washington Nordstrom. 

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Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.  Thought some might be interested in a comparison shot of C&J's 337 last, AE's Park Avenue, and Carmina's Inca last.

 

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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post

 

Sizing advice is one of the most frequent questions in shoe threads.  This discussion is precisely why it should all be taken with a grain of salt.    

 

...more evidence that you should go to an AE store if possible to try on any shoe you are thinking of purchasing or to buy multiple sizes online and return the ones that do not fit.

 

 

Oh...I have my $ on David due to his connections with the Nordstrom Mafia.


Edited by OptoDoc - 7/23/13 at 1:02pm
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

 

confused.gif  Have you not yet realized that David Copeland and Upward are the same individual?  David moved to Montana to get treatment for his multiple personality disorder.  Two of his competing personalities are:  (i) Upward, who hates Nordstrom; and (ii) David, whose dream is to one day manage the shoe department at the Spokane, Washington Nordstrom. 

 

Thanks for the chuckle!

 

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Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.  Thought some might be interested in a comparison shot of C&J's 337 last, AE's Park Avenue, and Carmina's Inca last.

 

 

Inca last <3

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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.  Thought some might be interested in a comparison shot of C&J's 337 last, AE's Park Avenue, and Carmina's Inca last.

Inca looks narrow!
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.  Thought some might be interested in a comparison shot of C&J's 337 last, AE's Park Avenue, and Carmina's Inca last.


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Originally Posted by Winston S. View Post

Inca looks narrow!

I agree... and as an AA width, I am intrigued. Can I trouble you for a width measurement across the sole at the waist (just forward of the heel) along with sharing what size you've got? If there's any possibility that my feet would fit into a Carmina shoe... well. How does it feel relative to the other two?
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Good opportunity to save some money on 2nds:

Now through the end of August you can save 20% off seconds at the Jeffersonville outlet. To get this deal, which is a deal that comes and goes, you will need to visit the Tanger outlet website and get on their email list. They will then email you the 20% off coupon.


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Inca last is anything but narrow.  I would say it fits the same as AE's 5 last in the heel through the ball of the foot, but has a tighter (and lower) toe box.  Here are some pictures that may better illustrate this.

 

 

 

 

 

I wear an 11UK in Inca and a 12 U.S. in the 5 last.  Both are roughly 4.25 inches wide at the ball of the foot.

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