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I've been meaning to clean up some shoes that don't see much wear in preparation of thinning the herd a bit. These have been boxed up for the better part of two years now.

 

I gave them both a good brushing, some AE cream polish and a bit of wax on the toes and heel counters.

 

Manhattan wholecut in chili:

 

 

 

 

 

Westchester in walnut. If only these fit me better...

 

 

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What size?
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Originally Posted by patrick_b View Post

I've been meaning to clean up some shoes that don't see much wear in preparation of thinning the herd a bit. These have been boxed up for the better part of two years now.

 

I gave them both a good brushing, some AE cream polish and a bit of wax on the toes and heel counters.

 

Manhattan wholecut in chili:

 

 

 

 

 

Westchester in walnut. If only these fit me better...

 

 


What's size are the Westchesters?
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My Amoks and me...maiden voyage
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Can someone link me to the Paul MTO special? I've seen it mentioned all over the place but never saw the original post. I emailed one of the SF AE reps but never heard back.

Email Paul directly. Its buried in this thread but a quick google search will give you his email.
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Cognac Dublin Leather Ridgeways arrived today.  Dublin Leather is calf leather that Horween processes the same way that they process cordovan.  The Dublin Leather looks much better in person than it does in either my pictures or the pictures on the AE  website. Orange is my favorite color and vibram soles are my favorite soles.

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Very nice, sir! I'm a fan of the Ridgeway. Wear them in good health.

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Cognac Dublin Leather Ridgeways arrived today.  Dublin Leather is calf leather that Horween processes the same way that they process cordovan.  The Dublin Leather looks much better in person than it does in either my pictures or the pictures on the AE  website. Orange is my favorite color and vibram soles are my favorite soles.

Almost positive that Dublin is processed in the same way as CXL leather, not cordovan. Where did you come by this info?

I have talked with Dave Mitchell about this at length as he uses quite a bit of Horween leather. I have a Dublin belt from him
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Almost positive that Dublin is processed in the same way as CXL leather, not cordovan. Where did you come by this info?

I have talked with Dave Mitchell about this at length as he uses quite a bit of Horween leather. I have a Dublin belt from him

Given the price of the shoe, I would think it would be more believable that it would be processed more like CXL and not like Cordovan.

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Maybe I should take another look at the Dublin leather offerings, I wish they were derby though.
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Originally Posted by patrick_b View Post

 

Manhattan wholecut in chili:

 

 

 

If those are a size 9.5, I'd be willing to help you thin the herd :)

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So I am considering picking up a pair of strands in chili. Based on the wealth of knowledge present here, what would be the chances of them ever being available for less than $295 in the future (current webgem) since they aren't a standard color? Slim to none? I don't really have a current need for them but I am somewhat intrigued.

Also I have never seen chili in person. I have walnut Cliftons so I am between bourbon and chili for my strands, just can't decide if I want to pull the trigger on the chili now or wait for a better price for bourbon. Opinions are welcome.
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Cognac Dublin Leather Ridgeways arrived today. Dublin Leather is calf leather that Horween processes the same way that they process cordovan. The Dublin Leather looks much better in person than it does in either my pictures or the pictures on the AE website. Orange is my favorite color and vibram soles are my favorite soles.

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Almost positive that Dublin is processed in the same way as CXL leather, not cordovan. Where did you come by this info?

I have talked with Dave Mitchell about this at length as he uses quite a bit of Horween leather. I have a Dublin belt from him

According to this blog post by Nick Horween on their website, Dublin is the name they've given to a variety of waxed leather made from cowhide that's been tanned using the same sort of liquor used during tanning of shell cordovan. Essex is made using a similar tanning liquor, but is not waxed.

I've got a pair of Wolverine 1000 Mile "Krause" boots made with black Dublin leather, and given its thickness in comparison to that used in all of my calfskin shoes by AE, I'm guessing that Nick Horween said "cowhide" in his post specifically because they don't use calfskin in the process.

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Originally Posted by dddrees 
Given the price of the shoe, I would think it would be more believable that it would be processed more like CXL and not like Cordovan.

Although this is really speculative on my part, I'd assume that the primary drivers of cordovan's price are the cost of the necessary horsehides and any labor requirements that they uniquely demand (because of their different physical composition), as opposed to the tanning liquor itself.

My guess is that the raw materials (oils, chemicals, and such) that make up the tanning liquor represent one of the less expensive elements of the overall price equation.
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One of the limiting factors for cordovan is the size of the hide. This exacerbates the supply problem.
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According to this blog post by Nick Horween on their website, Dublin is the name they've given to a variety of waxed leather made from cowhide that's been tanned using the same sort of liquor used during tanning of shell cordovan. Essex is made using a similar tanning liquor, but is not waxed.

I've got a pair of Wolverine 1000 Mile "Krause" boots made with black Dublin leather, and given its thickness in comparison to that used in all of my calfskin shoes by AE, I'm guessing that Nick Horween said "cowhide" in his post specifically because they don't use calfskin in the process.
Although this is really speculative on my part, I'd assume that the primary drivers of cordovan's price are the cost of the necessary horsehides and any labor requirements that they uniquely demand (because of their different physical composition), as opposed to the tanning liquor itself.

My guess is that the raw materials (oils, chemicals, and such) that make up the tanning liquor represent one of the less expensive elements of the overall price equation.

Thanks for the information.

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