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Cognac Dublin Leather Ridgeways arrived today.  Dublin Leather is calf leather that Horween processes the same way that they process cordovan.  The Dublin Leather looks much better in person than it does in either my pictures or the pictures on the AE  website. Orange is my favorite color and vibram soles are my favorite soles.

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Very nice, sir! I'm a fan of the Ridgeway. Wear them in good health.

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Cognac Dublin Leather Ridgeways arrived today.  Dublin Leather is calf leather that Horween processes the same way that they process cordovan.  The Dublin Leather looks much better in person than it does in either my pictures or the pictures on the AE  website. Orange is my favorite color and vibram soles are my favorite soles.

Almost positive that Dublin is processed in the same way as CXL leather, not cordovan. Where did you come by this info?

I have talked with Dave Mitchell about this at length as he uses quite a bit of Horween leather. I have a Dublin belt from him
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Almost positive that Dublin is processed in the same way as CXL leather, not cordovan. Where did you come by this info?

I have talked with Dave Mitchell about this at length as he uses quite a bit of Horween leather. I have a Dublin belt from him

Given the price of the shoe, I would think it would be more believable that it would be processed more like CXL and not like Cordovan.

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Maybe I should take another look at the Dublin leather offerings, I wish they were derby though.
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Manhattan wholecut in chili:

 

 

 

If those are a size 9.5, I'd be willing to help you thin the herd :)

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So I am considering picking up a pair of strands in chili. Based on the wealth of knowledge present here, what would be the chances of them ever being available for less than $295 in the future (current webgem) since they aren't a standard color? Slim to none? I don't really have a current need for them but I am somewhat intrigued.

Also I have never seen chili in person. I have walnut Cliftons so I am between bourbon and chili for my strands, just can't decide if I want to pull the trigger on the chili now or wait for a better price for bourbon. Opinions are welcome.
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Cognac Dublin Leather Ridgeways arrived today. Dublin Leather is calf leather that Horween processes the same way that they process cordovan. The Dublin Leather looks much better in person than it does in either my pictures or the pictures on the AE website. Orange is my favorite color and vibram soles are my favorite soles.

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Almost positive that Dublin is processed in the same way as CXL leather, not cordovan. Where did you come by this info?

I have talked with Dave Mitchell about this at length as he uses quite a bit of Horween leather. I have a Dublin belt from him

According to this blog post by Nick Horween on their website, Dublin is the name they've given to a variety of waxed leather made from cowhide that's been tanned using the same sort of liquor used during tanning of shell cordovan. Essex is made using a similar tanning liquor, but is not waxed.

I've got a pair of Wolverine 1000 Mile "Krause" boots made with black Dublin leather, and given its thickness in comparison to that used in all of my calfskin shoes by AE, I'm guessing that Nick Horween said "cowhide" in his post specifically because they don't use calfskin in the process.

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Given the price of the shoe, I would think it would be more believable that it would be processed more like CXL and not like Cordovan.

Although this is really speculative on my part, I'd assume that the primary drivers of cordovan's price are the cost of the necessary horsehides and any labor requirements that they uniquely demand (because of their different physical composition), as opposed to the tanning liquor itself.

My guess is that the raw materials (oils, chemicals, and such) that make up the tanning liquor represent one of the less expensive elements of the overall price equation.
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One of the limiting factors for cordovan is the size of the hide. This exacerbates the supply problem.
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According to this blog post by Nick Horween on their website, Dublin is the name they've given to a variety of waxed leather made from cowhide that's been tanned using the same sort of liquor used during tanning of shell cordovan. Essex is made using a similar tanning liquor, but is not waxed.

I've got a pair of Wolverine 1000 Mile "Krause" boots made with black Dublin leather, and given its thickness in comparison to that used in all of my calfskin shoes by AE, I'm guessing that Nick Horween said "cowhide" in his post specifically because they don't use calfskin in the process.
Although this is really speculative on my part, I'd assume that the primary drivers of cordovan's price are the cost of the necessary horsehides and any labor requirements that they uniquely demand (because of their different physical composition), as opposed to the tanning liquor itself.

My guess is that the raw materials (oils, chemicals, and such) that make up the tanning liquor represent one of the less expensive elements of the overall price equation.

Thanks for the information.

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One of the limiting factors for cordovan is the size of the hide. This exacerbates the supply problem.

truer words cant be spoken.. every time I drive by the horse stables up the road, I daydream of ravello and #4 possibilities

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I still don't own any cordovan make ups. I'm not sad about that. The Dublin leathers are quite nice and I'm a big fan of suede.
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I still don't own any cordovan make ups. I'm not sad about that. The Dublin leathers are quite nice and I'm a big fan of suede.

you alone have me teetering on some suede alden makeups, specifically modified last.

 

my AE snuff amoks were a steal, first foray into suede from them.

 

not familiar with Dublin offerings.. any easy to respond with links, model #s etc? I'm always interested in emptying the wallet for a week or so 

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Those would be any of the way leathers in the rough collection. Neumok, Elgin, Ridgeway, McTavish, Sedona. Those should all be Dublin.
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Hi everyone,

 

I recently bought a pair of Brooks Brother branded AE Strand.  After wearing them for about half a day, my small toe started to hurt a little bit, with a little blister (actually it's more of a callus) forming on the top of it.  This is my first pair of AE, so I am wondering if this is normal or if I should expect this to go away as they are broken in.  My left foot has no problems and the shoe fits pretty comfortably.

 

On a related note, I went to an AE store a couple months ago and I tried on the Strand in an 8EEE and 8E (Sales associated measured me an 8EEE).  I thought the EEE was slightly too wide and the E was slightly too tight.  The 8EE isn't listed as a size option on the BB website, so I went with the 8E hoping they would be ok, but maybe I should have gone with the 8EEE or called to see if they have the 8EE?

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