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Originally Posted by jbcohen View Post

What is the shoe bank?
I hate to be rude, but please devote a few hours to going through this thread and reading several pages. It seems that every one of your questions thus far has been answered at least once or twice a month. It gets frustrating seeing these questions every time someone new to the brand pops in and doesn't bother to do a few searches or spend the time to read all the wisdom and knowledge contained in the back pages.

That said, welcome and please let me know if I can answer any questions that you have, should you not be able to find an answer on your own.
post #22412 of 46919
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

 

Wanted to quote OptoDoc as well, but technical glitches are preventing it.  Anyways, my question to both of you is whether you have considered the fact that the salemen you encountered are just poor salemen who do not enjoy their jobs?  I'm 41 and frequently in nice suits and have been blown off as well at both the Michigan Avenue and the LaSalle St. AE stores.  So, let's not jump the gun on accusing them of youth or income discrimination.  In fact, I've found that both stores tend to blow people off when they're busy, which is why I try to go around 10-11 a.m. when I need to go.  I've found that I get excellent service when I'm the only one in the store. 

 

I agree that I should not pass judgement on one isolated incident. However, when I was in the store it was not very busy. While my SA was helping me, an older gentleman in a suit walked in and you would have sworn it had been Kate Upton, the way he kept darting his eyes over. When another SA went over to help this man, my SA seemed quite irritated.

 

As an aside, I had a similar experience when I went to a Joseph A Bank store in Baton Rouge. I was there to purchase shoe trees but decided to browse some of the non-iron shirts as I was told they are decent for traveling. I tried one on but it fit like a tent. I asked the SA if they had any non-iron shirts in a slimmer fit and he proceeded to tell me that he didn't think his store had what I was looking for and that I should consider checking out the clothing at Express.

 

Again, I am just commenting on this one experience to concur that despite Allen Edmonds wonderful customer service (which I have experienced through their stores, outlets and online staff), it only takes one poor sales associate to ruin someone's (not myself) view of the brand and turn them off forever. This is true in any sales business, not just footwear.

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Originally Posted by David Copeland View Post

I guess I will find out shortly - as my wife and I are due to expect the Long Branch any day now (which is similar to the Dalton upper.  

 

Yes, the leg increases in girth - but I believe makers of boots accommodate for that in adding more leather to the upper in order to avoid a drastic V look.  I also have seen straight laced shoes and boots posted on this forum where there were no gaps, let alone the 1/4" standard gap allowed.  And what about military boots?

 

Certainly not to argue . . . just looking at other possible variations that do not compromise the fit of the shoe or boots.

 

All my best,

 

David

 

I don't think you are trying to be argumentative.  I just think you are trying to unfairly take a guideline for a balmoral, and apply it as a general rule to all shoes and boots (bluchers included).  You simply can't do that.  Some people have huge ankles, some have thin bony ankles, some have big calves others have small ones.  You are correct that manufacturers accommodate for general anatomy in constructing a well made boot, but the boot is still sized according to the heel to ball of the foot area.  In other words, you can't take a gap in the lacing that is way up above the ankle as indicative of size or proper fit when the boot's size is based on the same part of the foot as any other shoe.  If the gap way up on the shaft of the boot is larger than you prefer from an aesthetics point of view, while the rest of the boot is comfortable, I can assure you that going up in size won't help the lacing issue.  If you don't like the lacing gap in an otherwise well fitting boot, you will simply have to accept that the model may not be to your taste and look elsewhere.  To have it your way in fit and aesthetics from the toes to the top of shaft, you will either have to stumble upon a boot that is perfect for you by sheer luck, or you will have to go bespoke. 

post #22414 of 46919
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Originally Posted by Cold Iron View Post

Thanks! And yes I will see about taking pictures if possible.

 

The MTO I am working on is something that likely wouldn't seem like much to most people. Like bucksfan said after awhile your shoe collection becomes more strategic. For awhile now I have been working on acquiring a boot, chukka and shoe in each shell color that AE offers or has offered. The Dundee's (chukka) were the first to be completed. She said many people at the factory remembered them as it isn't something they often see, and they took a lot of care to make sure the shell color was different between them.

 

 

But in reality it looks like I am missing mahogany in my Dundee's...

 

The LTD 744 boot second from the left is listed as mahogany and you can see here it is different than dark brown on the left and the cappuccino on the right. Last year bucksfan turned me on a to a pair of C&J for RL Marlow in my size which is also mahogany. Horween calls it Dark Cognac but there are rumors that it is also called #449 and the Marlow used to be called Dark Cognac, it is the same color as the 744. 

 

All of the records at AE list the color as the same as dark brown, and the production manager said no color was added during manufacturing. They had me send my 744's in so they could look at them to see what they could do. She said that from the shell they have it would be impossible to match them so she is going to talk to Skip Horween and see what he can do. If they can pull it off it would give me a shoe, Dundee and boot all in Mahogany and one of the hardest to complete. And may not be able to, but fingers are crossed. 

 

When she talked to me about my 744's she said everyone there asked what I had done to them to make them so shiny. They came without any cream on them and have been treated with Reno but have has a whole lot of brushing. And have always had a great finish on them.

 

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With some luck I hope to have a pair of Dundee's in the same color.

Great information.  I never realized the 744's are the same color as the Marlow's.  I am going to have to put them side by side for a comparison.  I think it is interesting to note how shiny your 744's are as many people have mentioned on the Marlow, Darlton site that their C&J shell do not shine up as well as Alden's.  

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Banff? Any opinions on them?
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I don't typically wear boots, except for the ones that I use to shovel snow in and those are not real high quality boots.  However the ones you have there Cali are tempting me.

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Good morning gentlemen,

 

Who said that shell cordovan is addictive?

I've been wearing my Leeds for a few weeks now (with proper rotation) and they must be the most comfortable and beautiful shoes I have ever owned!

 

I am just in love with these babies... 

 

(Apologies for the poor quality pic and for the office carpet)

 

I am seriously considering a MTO brown shell wingtip on the Leeds last.

Do you guys think it is possible?

Suggestions?

 

Thank you,

Max

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Anyone have a picture of AE's natural edge dressing? Either applied on a shoe or just an image that shows the color. AE's natural is the most often recommended product for Alden's natural, light colored edge trim and I'm just curious how it looks.
post #22419 of 46919
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Originally Posted by LeviMay View Post


I Googled the Elgin for pics, as it isn't on the AE site anymore. The source for one of the images was this site, and the URL had the price in it. I figured I'd investigate, and did end up ordering. Low price, free shipping, and Paypal (rather than asking for CC info) all hepled me decide.

My one concern, however, is that the Elgin is on the same last as the McAllisters I picked up today, which, in an E width, are JUST wide enough. I'm hoping the Rough Collection fits a tad looser. If not, there may be an 11D Elgin up for grabs soon.

 

I take 7.5E on the McAllister and just received 7.5E in the Elgin and they do run a little larger. However, my McAllisters just barely fit and I could probably go 7.5EE on them so I stuck with the same size in the Elgin. It's important to note that there are AE Elgin and BB Elgin. Mine are AE. The BB have a different insole which some have commented make the shoe fit more snug. Please report back as I'm curious if I should have gone with 7.5D or 7E.

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Originally Posted by patrick_b View Post

Anyone have a picture of AE's natural edge dressing? Either applied on a shoe or just an image that shows the color. AE's natural is the most often recommended product for Alden's natural, light colored edge trim and I'm just curious how it looks.

I don't have a picture, but I do own a bottle. It has the color of watered-down milk in the bottle, but likely goes on almost clear. That is why I don't bother using it.

post #22421 of 46919
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Originally Posted by patrick_b View Post

Anyone have a picture of AE's natural edge dressing? Either applied on a shoe or just an image that shows the color. AE's natural is the most often recommended product for Alden's natural, light colored edge trim and I'm just curious how it looks.

I too have the natural dressing, and have used it a couple of times on my natural tan McTavish's.  It is milky in the bottle, but goes on clear, and if anything, just gives the edge colour a bit of a richer tone, but doesn't change the colour, or add any colour at all.  Honestly I think you could use it on any edge to give it some protection, without changing the original colour.  Where I think it wouldn't do any good, is on a dark colour edge that has been scuffed so it's much lighter than originally. There, you'd need to recolour the edge with suitable dressing.  If you've got light coloured shoes, go for it - it's like putting water on the edges...my two bits.

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Originally Posted by patrick_b View Post

Anyone have a picture of AE's natural edge dressing? Either applied on a shoe or just an image that shows the color. AE's natural is the most often recommended product for Alden's natural, light colored edge trim and I'm just curious how it looks.

 

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Originally Posted by msulinski View Post

I don't have a picture, but I do own a bottle. It has the color of watered-down milk in the bottle, but likely goes on almost clear. That is why I don't bother using it.

 

It does have a watered-down milk look in the bottle, but it is clear when applied (as natural should be).  In other words, a picture of shoes with the natural dressing should look just like those with no edge dressing at all (apart from some added sheen perhaps).  I use it on my tan Finches below:

 

 

 

 

Even if you are seeking to keep your original color, it is still good to use edge dressing.  It isn't just to cover up scratches.  It seals the leather edge and helps keep water out when exposed to rain by providing a lacquer like surface protection. 

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In reply to Fabian 43:

Here is what I posted on your earlier request one page back.

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Originally Posted by Fabian43

Any opinions on the Banff? My Ugg slippers are wearing out. 6pm.com has them on clearance for $86


I have the Banff and really like them. However, I would go up at least a half size as they do run a tad small.

Chris
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How frequently does Allen Emonds run the clearance sales?  I would not normally be able to afford their stuff if it wasn't for the clearance sales.  Got a pair of fiesols on clearance last week-end.

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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post

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Originally Posted by patrick_b 

Anyone have a picture of AE's natural edge dressing? Either applied on a shoe or just an image that shows the color. AE's natural is the most often recommended product for Alden's natural, light colored edge trim and I'm just curious how it looks.

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Originally Posted by msulinski 

I don't have a picture, but I do own a bottle. It has the color of watered-down milk in the bottle, but likely goes on almost clear. That is why I don't bother using it.


It does have a watered-down milk look in the bottle, but it is clear when applied (as natural should be).  In other words, a picture of shoes with the natural dressing should look just like those with no edge dressing at all (apart from some added sheen perhaps).  I use it on my tan Finches below:

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Even if you are seeking to keep your original color, it is still good to use edge dressing.  It isn't just to cover up scratches.  It seals the leather edge and helps keep water out when exposed to rain by providing a lacquer like surface protection. 

I've used the natural edge dressing on a few pairs so far, all of which had natural welts and sole edges to begin with -- navy Cronmoks, webgem Neumoks & suede Strands -- and can concur with what's been written already.

The main reason to use it is to add protection, with minimal effect on appearance. It dries clear with a low gloss sheen, and (in my opinion) makes the leather appear almost imperceptibly darker. Probably less than the natural variation you might see between pairs of shoes made with different batches of sole leather.


I'd also add that, to my admittedly untrained nose, I think that all of the AE edge dressings are probably just acrylic gloss varnish, with the addition of dye or pigment for the colored varieties. Until they dry they're water-soluble, but afterwards provide a water-insoluble barrier and a bit of added protection against abrasion. Certainly, the smell is nearly-identical to some brands of acrylic varnish I've used in the past.
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