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post #20596 of 43330
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Originally Posted by rollinsay View Post

Just received my anniversary sale Bourbon McAllisters. They are gorgeous out of the box, but there were a few areas of concern on them that I wanted to run by you all. This is my first pair of AE so I'm not sure what to expect in terms of normal variation and quality control.

 

Here it seemed strange that the burnishing did not go all the way up to the broguing. Granted, this is the inside of the right shoe, but it is made more noticeable when I wear the shoe as the leather stretches away a bit more.

 

 

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This picture doesn't show it very well, but one of the teeth of the scalloped edge at the point of the wingtip is slightly bent upwards.

 

 

Here my concern was a slightly raised stitch and the scratch or lack of color where the welt is stitched.

 

 

The stitching here seems off, with a bit too much of the edge protruding. It can be bent back away from the seam.

 

 

Finally, another bent tooth of the wingtip edge.

 

 

 

 

I know most of these are very minute details. The only one that really bothers me is the stitching on the upper where the wingtip edge is much wider than any other part of the shoe. It seems pretty noticeable and really looks out of place.

 

Hoping to get some of your veteran opinions on this! Thanks in advance.

 

 

Those don't look too bad, but if they're firsts and you're not satisfied, you're justified in returning them.

 

I agree the inconsistently long pinking is the biggest problem there. I don't think one or two "teeth" sticking up is rare. I should point out, though, that the pinking on my Bourbon Strands pretty much all sticks up! This is likely from the opposite problem as yours, where the stitching is too close to the end. See below:

 

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Originally Posted by kentyman View Post

I just got my Bourbon Strands in the mail and thought I'd share for those wanting to see how they look in this shade. Also, for my first post, I thought I'd could rub in the fact that I have them before they are even available online. mwink[1].gif

 

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Inside, no flash (Click to show)

 

I ordered them back on September 22nd at their Dallas brick and mortar. I was just going to size them for future ordering, but the saleswoman was nice enough to put in the bourbon order early and honor the 15% off Rediscover America price.

 

I'm very happy with them. Walnut Strands are classic, but it's nice having something a touch different than everyone else... and having the same color on my feet as drink in my glass.

 

This was my first pair of AEs, so I didn't have much to compare to, but I've learned to love these shoes so much that I'm not letting it bother me. Though I am curious in hindsight if y'all would've exchanged my Strands for this issue. To put it another way, what do you expect from the pinking of a first quality brogue? Should they all be down and perfect, or is a little mayhem normal?

post #20597 of 43330
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

 

Do not mess around with the recoloring creams.  I repeat - do not mess around with the recoloring creams.  They are dyes and for situations significantly worse than yours.  Go with the Saphir cordovan cream.  Trust me on this one, it's that good.

 

Will do. Thanks again for everything.

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Originally Posted by AmericanGent View Post

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I'm not a veteran, but I'll chime in anyway-

Can you clarify if these were first quality or seconds.  The shoes I got during the same sale are seconds. 

If these are seconds, well you have just pointed out why.  If they are firsts you can exercise your right to exchange them for another pair. 

 

They are firsts.

post #20599 of 43330
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Originally Posted by msulinski View Post

Nice. Are those finished with the old or new AE #8 shell finishing method?

 

Old - this particular pair is about 2.5 yrs old.  After quite a few "Mac" treatments, the polish and cream finish are gone and the bare shell is gradually turning more brownish with time.  

post #20600 of 43330
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Originally Posted by zchen View Post

 

 

That's exactly what I'm afraid of......once I decide between cappucino and walnut for the Bayfield. I'm going to be thinking about which ever one I didn't pick.

 

That is true. In a perfect world both would be nice but not always realistic. I love both colors however in my experience realistically the cappuccino is easier to match with what ever you want to wear. And I think it was you that mentioned earlier how you love how cappuccino changes color so much depending on the lighting, and I agree. Somedays it seems like I have 3 different pairs of shoes on. If your shooting for the rainbow then obviously walnut is your choice. But if not it may not be the best choice. Either way they are both good choices though!

 

Forgot to mention yesterday when I talked to Deborah about ordering the Bayfield, it is an option to NOT have the poron insole. I decided to have it because I knew that by sizing up a half size I could still get a decent fit. Without it I'm pretty sure they would be TTS.

 

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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

Saz I would love to see a picture of the shell next to the calf walnut. If you have the time. I have the same pair of strands my one and only AE until my MTO Daltons get here.

Ryden I went with 8.5d on 511. I can't believe an AE store wouldn't carry the Dalton its their primary high boot. My store carries it in walnut calf, chocolate calf and burgundy shell.

Hopefully Sazon will still post pictures when he gets a chance too. There are always color variations in the materials and of course lighting effect. Here is an older picture I have comparing them.

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Walnut calf to the far left, other 2 are walnut shell.

post #20601 of 43330

I just got in touch with the Freeport outlet and they gave me a really bad, bad news.

 

The Leeds will be 15% off during our Memorial Day Sale! Sale starts on the 13th!

 

449-15 % = 381.65.

 

I am officially in trouble.

post #20602 of 43330
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Originally Posted by Cold Iron View Post

Hopefully Sazon will still post pictures when he gets a chance too. There are always color variations in the materials and of course 
lighting effect. Here is an older picture I have comparing them.
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Walnut calf to the far left, other 2 are walnut shell.

Wow the Dalton and calf strand are quite different. Do the strand and dalton size the same for you?
post #20603 of 43330
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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

Wow the Dalton and calf strand are quite different. Do the strand and dalton size the same for you?

For my foot yes, the 1 and 5 last are TTS for me in shell and calf. For the Dublin leather in the rough collection I need to size down a half size just like the Alden Barrie last. But others have had to do different combinations for proper fitment between the 1 and 5 last.

post #20604 of 43330
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Originally Posted by OptoDoc View Post
I was logging on to use the Chat feature to inquire about the laces on my Kenilworths. They came with 30" laces that seem much too long when tied. Does anyone know the proper lace length for a 3 eyelit shoe?

 

I finally got through on the chat feature and it was confirmed to me that my Kenilworths were sent with the wrong size laces. 24" replacement laces are in the mail.

post #20605 of 43330
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Originally Posted by guasc1 View Post

I just got in touch with the Freeport outlet and they gave me a really bad, bad news.

 

The Leeds will be 15% off during our Memorial Day Sale! Sale starts on the 13th!

 

449-15 % = 381.65.

 

I am officially in trouble.

 

This raises an interesting discussion on a point made a few pages back:  despite the rumor (announcement?) that all AE shell is going to be MTO, it seems that AE keeps turning out a significant number of shell shoes in certain models.  These significant sales on shell seconds typically only come about when there is a surplus of seconds to sell.

post #20606 of 43330
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

 

This raises an interesting discussion on a point made a few pages back:  despite the rumor (announcement?) that all AE shell is going to be MTO, it seems that AE keeps turning out a significant number of shell shoes in certain models.  These significant sales on shell seconds typically only come about when there is a surplus of seconds to sell.

Or they are trying to clear their inventory of all the shell made shoes they have to only keep the production of MTO.

 

Results:

1- free inventory space

2- free production line (AE sales are growing) so to keep manufacture in US and/or avoid outsourcing

3- capitalize on current line up (so to kill dead expenses for the current stock)

3- Sell shell shoes at higher price tags, being a MTO service

 

All these points make incredible sense on a business stamp point.

 

Enjoy your afternoon, it is 28 degrees Celsius in Montreal and I am loving it!

Max

post #20607 of 43330
Anybody have this shoe:

http://www.brooksbrothers.com/Penny-Loafers/MH00026,default,pd.html?dwvar_MH00026_Color=BLCK&contentpos=1&cgid=

Thoughts regarding this shoe on the casual/formal spectrum (keeping in mind loafers are inherently more casual than most lace-ups)?

Thoughts on fit?
post #20608 of 43330
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

Anybody have this shoe:

http://www.brooksbrothers.com/Penny-Loafers/MH00026,default,pd.html?dwvar_MH00026_Color=BLCK&contentpos=1&cgid=

Thoughts regarding this shoe on the casual/formal spectrum (keeping in mind loafers are inherently more casual than most lace-ups)?

Thoughts on fit?

I just tried them on this past Sunday.

Great fit, comfortable, soft leather.

I am 8.5D in Park Avenues and that's what I tried.

I have not purchased them because my wife had already pulled out the lawyer's number on her phone...

Married life!

post #20609 of 43330
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Originally Posted by kentyman View Post

 

 

Those don't look too bad, but if they're firsts and you're not satisfied, you're justified in returning them.

 

I agree the inconsistently long pinking is the biggest problem there. I don't think one or two "teeth" sticking up is rare. I should point out, though, that the pinking on my Bourbon Strands pretty much all sticks up! This is likely from the opposite problem as yours, where the stitching is too close to the end. See below:

 

 

This was my first pair of AEs, so I didn't have much to compare to, but I've learned to love these shoes so much that I'm not letting it bother me. Though I am curious in hindsight if y'all would've exchanged my Strands for this issue. To put it another way, what do you expect from the pinking of a first quality brogue? Should they all be down and perfect, or is a little mayhem normal?

 

Thanks for the perspective. I think I will ask for an exchange, as that's the kind of thing that would continue to bother me despite my overall love for the shoe.

 

Cheers!

post #20610 of 43330
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Originally Posted by guasc1 View Post

Or they are trying to clear their inventory of all the shell made shoes they have to only keep the production of MTO.

 

Results:

1- free inventory space

2- free production line (AE sales are growing) so to keep manufacture in US and/or avoid outsourcing

3- capitalize on current line up (so to kill dead expenses for the current stock)

3- Sell shell shoes at higher price tags, being a MTO service

 

All these points make incredible sense on a business stamp point.

 

Enjoy your afternoon, it is 28 degrees Celsius in Montreal and I am loving it!

Max

 

They had some big sales a year or so ago to clear shell inventory, which is why some of us are wondering if there is still production going on for certain models.

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