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post #20566 of 53271
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Those look great. What was the color before? I actually like that a little better than Alden's #8.

 

Here was the original picture first day wearing them.  Not much (if any) difference with regard to the wings, but the cordovan cream did darken the vamp a little bit to more closely match the wings.  The biggest difference is that it filled in all the areas where the shoe had finishing issues and made it uniform.

 

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post #20567 of 53271
Chil Pebble Grain Lloyds today.





post #20568 of 53271
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I talked to the seller and he seemed genuinely unaware of the blotches, and offered to refund some money. After getting almost 22% back (standard difference between firsts and seconds), they came to $379 - $83 = $296. New Shoes1, thank you for the heads up on this eBay listing. I owe my first pair of shell to you.

 

 

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I have worn them around the house and surprisingly am happy with the fit. They're 8.5D just like my Strands, which I knows is abnormal, but I also did not have success sizing down McTavishes at 8D (too tight), so my feet my be a bit odd. I wouldn't be surprised if 8E works better for 5-65 last shoes that run big (bluchers, Rough Collections), but as someone who needs to find deals on seconds I don't usually have that option.

 

 

 

I have noticed that the left shoe creases different than the right. Do y'all agree that this is just normal variations causing this, or do you think the creases look indicative of bad sizing?

 

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If anyone has advice on the blotches, I'd love to hear it. I'm content with these blemishes, but if there's something I can do to lessen it, that would be great. I'm also concerned about removing too much factory polish as others have described in case it makes the problem more apparent. Does that Reno'Mat treatment lighten shell in a way that would make blemishes more obvious?

 

Thanks for all the advice.

 

I'd use either Renovateur or just a damp paper towel / microfiber towel, followed by a brush.  That will remove most of the cream polish, and give you a better idea of what the variation in the shell is.  Then, use a pigmented cordovan cream, as mentioned earlier.  Either Saphir's or AE's own will work fine.  The creasing looks fine.  Enjoy!  

 

Shell Bradleys today:  

 

 

  

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Chil Pebble Grain Lloyds today.





 

 

For some reason, it cracks me up that the model name for your AE's is Lloyd's.  It makes me want to start posting pictures of non-AE shoes here and saying, here are my AE Ed's or Tom's, just to drive some of the noobs crazy trying to find out where they can get the shoes.

post #20570 of 53271
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For some reason, it cracks me up that the model name for your AE's is Lloyd's.  It makes me want to start posting pictures of non-AE shoes here and saying, here are my AE Ed's or Tom's, just to drive some of the noobs crazy trying to find out where they can get the shoes.

Vintage model. Similar to McCallister but no separate caps on the rear quarter panels. Love that AE is so well made. Solid shoes.
post #20571 of 53271
I had the Walnut Calf Strand and then sold it when I invested in the Shell Strands. I missed the calf strands from the time they left me. confused.gif

Fast forward....Re-united and it feeeeeeels soooooo goooood.


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Is there some kind of sizing index to show how different AE models fit relative to each other?

 

 I know that aldens have several different lasts that all their shoes conform to.  Does AE have something similar?  I know my size for park avenues and want to know whether i'd be safe to order different (some older) models online in the same size. 

post #20573 of 53271

Those LaSalles look very tempting. Anyone have any experience wearing them with a slim orthotic, like Superfeet?

 

I'm lookng forward to getting my slim form orthotic but don't know where to start with styles that may fit. There's a local Patrick James that stocks about 10 styles, so I could go in there and try on shoes, but I really don't want to purchase them at full price when there's a sale around the corner.

 

My new pair of Bentons are waiting for me at home. Can't wait to get home and try them on.

post #20574 of 53271
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Originally Posted by stuffstuff View Post

Is there some kind of sizing index to show how different AE models fit relative to each other?

 

 I know that aldens have several different lasts that all their shoes conform to.  Does AE have something similar?  I know my size for park avenues and want to know whether i'd be safe to order different (some older) models online in the same size. 

I'd love to have that, but unfortunately no. That caused me to have several try-and-error attempts even though I do know my exact size for e.g. Cambridge. You can't even be sure that a different model made on the same last would fit the same. confused.gif

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so a guy walks into a bar...

 

Anyway here is my experience from today trying to get sized properly in AE. I went to one of the few stores by me and it was almost comical how bad the experience was. First off, no Daltons, Leeds, Sheltons or Williams in my size. The sales guy thought I was crazy because he told me if I fit into one size of AE they will all work as the last doesnt mean anything. Furthermore, he also told me it does not matter if I buy Alden or Allen Edmonds because they are the same company!! (seriously, I am not making this stuff up).

 

Anyway, what I was able to determine is that the MacNeil fit best in an 8D; the length was good and the width just a touch tight. I then tried the PArk Ave (since it is the same last) in an 8E and it was too roomy, i also tried a 7.5E and the 8D was definitely the best fit.

 

The only shoe I could try on in the 1-511 last was, the ever so stylish, Wilbert. This was not the model I would have chosen due to the cushion insole liner, but so be it...The 8D was a bit too snug for my liking and the 8.5D a much better fit. The 8.5D did not fit me the same as the 8D on the 7-97 but it was tough to attribute what was the last and what was the orthodic like insole. So, I am looking to you guys for a bit of guidance here. Does it make sense that if the 8D on the 7-97 that I would go to an 8.5D on the 1-511? Also, how does the 2-222 run? I really like the Williams but it was not available for me to try. Thanks!!

post #20576 of 53271
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I had the Walnut Calf Strand and then sold it when I invested in the Shell Strands. I missed the calf strands from the time they left me. confused.gif

Fast forward....Re-united and it feeeeeeels soooooo goooood.


 

Really?

 

I have never purchased an AE in shell before - all of mine are in Calfskin - as well as the new Longbranch boots I ordered.  So its true (in some cases) that the calf is more comfortable?

 

David

post #20577 of 53271
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I talked to the seller and he seemed genuinely unaware of the blotches, and offered to refund some money. After getting almost 22% back (standard difference between firsts and seconds), they came to $379 - $83 = $296. New Shoes1, thank you for the heads up on this eBay listing. I owe my first pair of shell to you.

 

I have worn them around the house and surprisingly am happy with the fit. They're 8.5D just like my Strands, which I knows is abnormal, but I also did not have success sizing down McTavishes at 8D (too tight), so my feet my be a bit odd. I wouldn't be surprised if 8E works better for 5-65 last shoes that run big (bluchers, Rough Collections), but as someone who needs to find deals on seconds I don't usually have that option.

 

I have noticed that the left shoe creases different than the right. Do y'all agree that this is just normal variations causing this, or do you think the creases look indicative of bad sizing?

 

 

 

 

 

If anyone has advice on the blotches, I'd love to hear it. I'm content with these blemishes, but if there's something I can do to lessen it, that would be great. I'm also concerned about removing too much factory polish as others have described in case it makes the problem more apparent. Does that Reno'Mat treatment lighten shell in a way that would make blemishes more obvious?

 

Thanks for all the advice.

 

 

Thanks for all the advice and kind words. Too many replies to quote (that's a good thing!), so I'll break it down by topic:

 

Blotches:

 

I like the idea of trying something with pigment that could even things out. Does AE's "new" burgundy shell start as Color #8? It sounds like the best options are Saphir Cordovan Shoe Polish (Cordovan) or AE Cordovan Care Cream (Burgundy), but also maybe Alden Paste Wax (Color #8). Other ideas would be something specifically for coloring like Saphir Juvacuir Recoloring Cream (Burgundy) or Saphir Renovating Recolorant Repair Cream (Burgundy)?

 

My concern with removing the built-up polish is that it will make the problem more apparent. Is the idea to remove the existing polish so that the new polish can better recolor the shell?

 

Creasing:

 

I'm happy to hear they seem normal, though I am curious about this "pen method". Is the idea just to force the shell to bend in a certain way? Any more information would be appreciated.

 

Waterproofing:

 

Is Saphir Super Invulner Waterproofing Spray suitable for shell, or should I get Alden Leather Defender instead?

post #20578 of 53271
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Originally Posted by rydenfan View Post

so a guy walks into a bar...

 

Anyway here is my experience from today trying to get sized properly in AE. I went to one of the few stores by me and it was almost comical how bad the experience was. First off, no Daltons, Leeds, Sheltons or Williams in my size. The sales guy thought I was crazy because he told me if I fit into one size of AE they will all work as the last doesnt mean anything. Furthermore, he also told me it does not matter if I buy Alden or Allen Edmonds because they are the same company!! (seriously, I am not making this stuff up).

 

Anyway, what I was able to determine is that the MacNeil fit best in an 8D; the length was good and the width just a touch tight. I then tried the PArk Ave (since it is the same last) in an 8E and it was too roomy, i also tried a 7.5E and the 8D was definitely the best fit.

 

The only shoe I could try on in the 1-511 last was, the ever so stylish, Wilbert. This was not the model I would have chosen due to the cushion insole liner, but so be it...The 8D was a bit too snug for my liking and the 8.5D a much better fit. The 8.5D did not fit me the same as the 8D on the 7-97 but it was tough to attribute what was the last and what was the orthodic like insole. So, I am looking to you guys for a bit of guidance here. Does it make sense that if the 8D on the 7-97 that I would go to an 8.5D on the 1-511? Also, how does the 2-222 run? I really like the Williams but it was not available for me to try. Thanks!!

Wow . . . what a terrible waste of time to the store.  And this was one of the Allen Edmonds stores and not one of the regular retail vendor stores that sells Aldens?  If so - I would report that to HQ.

 

As for you sizing - I need another in-store sizing again, and I chose to call Nordstroms.  I then asked the Operator for the name of the Men's Shoe Department.  I then asked to be transferred to him.  With the manager, I was able to make sure I would have a bonafide professional sizing performed.  Sizing is critical to investing in shoes that will last a generation or more.

 

David

post #20579 of 53271
Saz I would love to see a picture of the shell next to the calf walnut. If you have the time. I have the same pair of strands my one and only AE until my MTO Daltons get here.


Ryden I went with 8.5d on 511. I can't believe an AE store wouldn't carry the Dalton its their primary high boot. My store carries it in walnut calf, chocolate calf and burgundy shell.
post #20580 of 53271
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Originally Posted by kentyman View Post

 

Thanks for all the advice and kind words. Too many replies to quote (that's a good thing!), so I'll break it down by topic:

 

Blotches:

 

I like the idea of trying something with pigment that could even things out. Does AE's "new" burgundy shell start as Color #8? It sounds like the best options are Saphir Cordovan Shoe Polish (Cordovan) or AE Cordovan Care Cream (Burgundy), but also maybe Alden Paste Wax (Color #8). Other ideas would be something specifically for coloring like Saphir Juvacuir Recoloring Cream (Burgundy) or Saphir Renovating Recolorant Repair Cream (Burgundy)?

 

My concern with removing the built-up polish is that it will make the problem more apparent. Is the idea to remove the existing polish so that the new polish can better recolor the shell? 

 

Waterproofing:

 

Is Saphir Super Invulner Waterproofing Spray suitable for shell, or should I get Alden Leather Defender instead?

 

 

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