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Originally Posted by GOP Shoe Guy View Post

First off, I do not think those are shell cordovan. I think the 9107 is black polished calf. There are some ripples that would lead you to believe they are shell, but there are also many creases and wrinkles which tell me this is leather, not horsie... Also, this does not have the sole/heal combination that would go with shell cordovan. Even if I am correct, that price is not bad for a par of quality macneils. As for recrafting, and your question about stretching, ask away with the recrafting specialists at AE. The worst they can say is no. 

 

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+1 not shell cordovan. Those are "corrected grain" or "polished cobbler" in AE terminology. Not bad necessarily, but definitely not shell cordovan.

As for the stretching question, Many find that they need to go up a size in length on the 7-last (Macneil last) due to the sizing issue you found.

 

 

 

UGH. AM I NEVER SAFE FROM CORRECTED GRAIN?!

 

 

now the wait for the return. What a waste of time!! :(

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PSA:  RL online has some nice AE-made offerings on sale for up to 40% off.  I do not follow this thread much at all, so sorry if this has already been posted.  The sale ends tonight...

Sanderson (LWB; not the same as the MacNeil, it's MUCH nicer)  - 
http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4325812&cp=2943767.2018030&view=99&ab=ln_nodivision_cs8_shoes&parentPage=family

Slaton (Perf Cap Toe blucher)  -  http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4325816&cp=2943767.2018030&view=99&ab=ln_nodivision_cs8_shoes&parentPage=family

Singleton (penny loafer)  -  http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4325813&cp=2943767.2018030&view=99&ab=ln_nodivision_cs8_shoes&parentPage=family

Saunders (3 eyelet Chukka)  -  http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4360407&cp=2943767.2018030&view=99&ab=ln_nodivision_cs8_shoes&parentPage=family

I do not know the lasts that each are built on, but I know that the Sanderson runs TTS.  Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.  Hope this helps some of you...


Can some one tell me about the Sanderson is it really nicer material then the MacNeil


The material shouldn't be much different, but the last is much more comfortable and easier to size.  I have tried desperately to find a MacNeil that fits comfortably as I am a huge LWB fan, but have never been able to do so.  The Sanderson is quite nice... it may be the most comfortable AE shoe I have come across for my feet.  I believe it may be the same last as the Williams (2-222).

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I was looking to re-craft my AE Sevens and a pair of the Veronas, and I was told at the AE store that while they would resole the Italian shoes, they would not do it with the same soles and materials.

Anyone re-craft any Sevens or Italian collection shoes, and can comment?
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The material shouldn't be much different, but the last is much more comfortable and easier to size.  I have tried desperately to find a MacNeil that fits comfortably as I am a huge LWB fan, but have never been able to do so.  The Sanderson is quite nice... it may be the most comfortable AE shoe I have come across for my feet.  I believe it may be the same last as the Williams (2-222).

My guess is same leather as williams but a diffrent brown... I ordered a pair from the link and with Paul's deal I am now talking at least a 6 month break
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So I also got those shell Kenilworths (technically my first shell purchase). The listing said "First Quality - Stamped on Sole Because They Are a Cancelled Special Order", but I'm thinking they were probably seconds. Note the 3 dark blotches on the inside. Also, part of the label on the box was cut out:

 

 

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I'm thinking someone custom ordered them, didn't like the blotches, and they became seconds. What are y'all's thoughts? Is there any way to remove these? Do you think I can convince the seller to discount them? Looking for some advice.

 

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You absolutely have the right to return if the pictures did not reveal the spots. And you should get your shipping refunded as well. What you should not do, though, is threaten negative feedback regarding lack of accurate pictures as part of a negotiation to get a lower price. That's why I said keep them or return them.

 

I talked to the seller and he seemed genuinely unaware of the blotches, and offered to refund some money. After getting almost 22% back (standard difference between firsts and seconds), they came to $379 - $83 = $296. New Shoes1, thank you for the heads up on this eBay listing. I owe my first pair of shell to you.

 

I have worn them around the house and surprisingly am happy with the fit. They're 8.5D just like my Strands, which I knows is abnormal, but I also did not have success sizing down McTavishes at 8D (too tight), so my feet my be a bit odd. I wouldn't be surprised if 8E works better for 5-65 last shoes that run big (bluchers, Rough Collections), but as someone who needs to find deals on seconds I don't usually have that option.

 

I have noticed that the left shoe creases different than the right. Do y'all agree that this is just normal variations causing this, or do you think the creases look indicative of bad sizing?

 

 

 

 

 

If anyone has advice on the blotches, I'd love to hear it. I'm content with these blemishes, but if there's something I can do to lessen it, that would be great. I'm also concerned about removing too much factory polish as others have described in case it makes the problem more apparent. Does that Reno'Mat treatment lighten shell in a way that would make blemishes more obvious?

 

Thanks for all the advice.

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I was looking to re-craft my AE Sevens and a pair of the Veronas, and I was told at the AE store that while they would resole the Italian shoes, they would not do it with the same soles and materials.

Anyone re-craft any Sevens or Italian collection shoes, and can comment?

AE stocks similar soles in Wisconsin, from my understanding. The actual sole used on the Italian line is only in... Italy. They'll use a sole of similar thickness and style because, obviously, they aren't going to ship them back to Italy for a recraft.

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I hear you. I just ordered my second shoe\boot in cappuccino shell in a weeks time so I am trying to help level the playing field between walnut and truffle availability smile.gif

 

Got an email today from the Jeffersonville Ohio Outlet about the next uncoming sale. You should be able to click on the images to read them in larger size.

 

 

For real?  I just ordered the patriots $215 during their last 20% off sale

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Kentyman, glad it worked out.  Enjoy the shoes and wear them in good health.  cheers.gif

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If anyone has advice on the blotches, I'd love to hear it.

 

Just the nature of the beast [pun] I'm afraid; can't do much about hide marks as far as I'm aware. You could throw some Alden #8 paste over the whole shoe and it'd darken it up and even out the blemish. Otherwise, just leave it - I doubt it's even slightly visible from normal distances. Good looking pair of shoes icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

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I just received these AE loafers. Is it normal to have the sides curve out like this when I step down?

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I have the Park Ave in 10.5EE but the instep is slightly low and they are possibly a tiny bit long. What size should I go for in the Macneil? 10.5E?
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I just received these AE loafers. Is it normal to have the sides curve out like this when I step down?

 

No, it's not normal and there may be a defect with the shoe.  My first thought, however, is that this shoe looks too big for your foot.

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^+1 I had a pair of loafers that did the same thing and that was the culprit.
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Originally Posted by Leather View Post

I just received these AE loafers. Is it normal to have the sides curve out like this when I step down?


They look too big to me as well.
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Originally Posted by kentyman View Post


If anyone has advice on the blotches, I'd love to hear it. I'm content with these blemishes, but if there's something I can do to lessen it, that would be great. I'm also concerned about removing too much factory polish as others have described in case it makes the problem more apparent. Does that Reno'Mat treatment lighten shell in a way that would make blemishes more obvious?

Thanks for all the advice.

I would clean the shoes with something like the Saphir Renovateur and then maybe try either a #8 wax polish or the cordovan cream that Kirby's Hanger Project or Epaulet sells. The Cordovan Cream will have more pigment in it so that would be my first recommendation. I think you should be able to even out the color of those shoes pretty well. I also wouldn't worry about the creasing unless it bothers you. I have several pair of shell shoes that crease differently for each foot. Now when I get new shell shoes I wear them around the house to determine where he creases are going to be and then I manually crease them so that the creases will be as uniform as possible.
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