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PSA:  RL online has some nice AE-made offerings on sale for up to 40% off.  I do not follow this thread much at all, so sorry if this has already been posted.  The sale ends tonight...

 

Sanderson (LWB; not the same as the MacNeil, it's MUCH nicer)  - 

http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4325812&cp=2943767.2018030&view=99&ab=ln_nodivision_cs8_shoes&parentPage=family

 

Slaton (Perf Cap Toe blucher)  -  http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4325816&cp=2943767.2018030&view=99&ab=ln_nodivision_cs8_shoes&parentPage=family

 

Singleton (penny loafer)  -  http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4325813&cp=2943767.2018030&view=99&ab=ln_nodivision_cs8_shoes&parentPage=family

 

Saunders (3 eyelet Chukka)  -  http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4360407&cp=2943767.2018030&view=99&ab=ln_nodivision_cs8_shoes&parentPage=family

 

I do not know the lasts that each are built on, but I know that the Sanderson runs TTS.  Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.  Hope this helps some of you...

post #20537 of 47034

E-mailed the Shoe Bank to ask about a few discontinued models I really wanted. Vincenzo only found a Bayfield in brown (CXL I assume). Only one in size 9D ($167).

post #20538 of 47034
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

 

Is it a secret any longer that Cold Iron is the reason for the shell shortage?  Are we allowed to publically discuss this yet?

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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

 

 

The SF version of the battle of the sexes.  My wife and I are buying a new house that needs some work/decorating/new furniture.  For some reason the cost of shoes and suits keep coming into the conversation relative to the cost of appliances and new furniture. 

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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post


A healthy shoe addiction can distort one's perception of what constitutes an expensive purchase. Not that long ago my girlfriend noticed a new pair of Aldens sitting on the table. She says "I thought you weren't going to buy any more expensive shoes". I who had previously purchased a new pair of Edward Green dovers responeded with " I didn't purchase anymore expensive shoes, these were only $500". Much to my surprise , she did not share my view point on the subject.

 

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post #20539 of 47034

add me to the "lasalle's for $130, nooooooooo" train

 

what's the general +/- on the lasalle sizing relative to the common 5-last?

post #20540 of 47034
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Originally Posted by charliebrown2 View Post

what's the general +/- on the lasalle sizing relative to the common 5-last?

 

I think it would be awesome if we all added our entire collection to the website David Copeland mentioned before. Even with variations due to leather type and whether or not we like the size we have, it could very quickly answer the question of "Does this fit true to size?":

 


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Originally Posted by David Copeland View Post

Great website to pre-determine how another shoe style and size may convert to a specific AE shoe style:

 

http://feetlot.com/allen-edmonds

post #20541 of 47034
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

Is it a secret any longer that Cold Iron is the reason for the shell shortage?  Are we allowed to publically discuss this yet?

But of course. However I blame sevenfoldtieguy. His collection of shell has to be the Pope & Young museum equivalent for horses...

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Originally Posted by bucksfan View Post

You need to have strong will power to be a member of this thread.

On a side note, If you stick around here long enough, you will eventually start thinking of all cash expenditures in terms of shoes. For example, a conversation I had with my wife recently: that patio just cost 30 pair of shell Cordovan shoes!

Fortunately, she's understanding... More than I would be if the roles were reversed!

Oh my goodness, I AM normal!! Yes I think of many purchases in the terms of shell purchases including checks to the IRS, etc. Whew I was starting to get worried there for awhile! When I got home tonight the over sized hammock that the girlfriend wanted was sitting outside the garage, going to take me half a day to put that beast up in the yard. It was only one shoe instead of 30 pairs so I feel much better now about it ;-) But it is very important to keep the other half happy IMO.

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Originally Posted by WiredandTired View Post

Well, it's a slippery slope. I was grilling over a weber charcoal grill with little success yesterday. Long prep times to light the coals and cook everything. I thought to myself, damn I should really buy a Weber gas grill. Then I thought it's too much money, when I had just spent more than that on my last pair of cordovan boots.

Maybe I can help enable you to purchase another pair of shell instead of spending money on a gas grill.... 

 

I have both and grill at least 3 times a week 52 weeks out of the year. Almost 100% on the Weber charcoal. It can be tricky when the temp gets down in the teens below zero F but it still works just takes longer. Hopefully you have the 22" Weber which allows for more accessories. I go through 40 20 pound bags of charcoal a year. It goes on sale at most large box stores soon for ~$10 for 2 20 pound bags. Get a Weber charcoal chimney to start the coals and you can use a hair dryer to help the process go faster by placing it at the base of the chimney. Replace the grilling grate with a cast iron grate and learn how to sear and slide steaks with the coals directly under the meat to start the sear. Meathead has a great site on how to do it. Pick up the rotisserie, all meat taste better on a stick. Learn how to do the minon method to keep the coals going and control heat. And you will have some of the best eating you have ever had in your life that few restaurants can reproduce. Of course starting with prime cuts of steaks and good meat always helps.

 

Dinner is Served. (Click to show)

 

 

chickens

 

 

Steaks:

 

 

 

 

 

Turkey

 

 

And sliced and stuffed pork loin, pork butt, etc. 

 

 

 

post #20542 of 47034
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Originally Posted by Cold Iron View Post

But of course. However I blame sevenfoldtieguy. His collection of shell has to be the Pope & Young museum equivalent for horses...

 

Perhaps I have given Cold Iron too much credit as the sole cause of the shell shortage.  Perhaps there is a secret Axis of Evil (Cold Iron, Bucksfan and Sevenfoldtieguy) responsible for this calamity.  Something to ponder as I look at spending three pairs of shell shoes on a new refrigerator.

post #20543 of 47034
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

 

Allison is a shrewd saleswoman with regard to us SF folks.  So, what are the odds you come back for a second pair in cappucino within the year?  Because no matter how much you love your new Walnut shell Daltons, you're alwasy going to get that little pang of regret every time you see a picture of someone else's in cappucino.  Mark my words.

 

 

That's exactly what I'm afraid of......once I decide between cappucino and walnut for the Bayfield. I'm going to be thinking about which ever one I didn't pick.

post #20544 of 47034
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Originally Posted by zchen View Post


That's exactly what I'm afraid of......once I decide between cappucino and walnut for the Bayfield. I'm going to be thinking about which ever
one I didn't pick.

Tough call, I just made the same one. It really is a fruitless endeavor to try and decide. I'd recommend walnut as it appears to be in much shorter supply. At this moment I'm wondering if I should have chosen the bayfield?

As an aside I wonder if cold iron is actually Macarthur from the Alden thread under a different screen name as to avoid criticism for consuming more shell than Japan. Hmmmmm 
post #20545 of 47034
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Originally Posted by kentyman View Post

 

I think it would be awesome if we all added our entire collection to the website David Copeland mentioned before. Even with variations due to leather type and whether or not we like the size we have, it could very quickly answer the question of "Does this fit true to size?":

 


 


cool site that I've never heard of.  thanks.

 

too bad not much data in it yet

post #20546 of 47034
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Originally Posted by ReppTiePrepster View Post

PSA:  RL online has some nice AE-made offerings on sale for up to 40% off.  I do not follow this thread much at all, so sorry if this has already been posted.  The sale ends tonight...

Sanderson (LWB; not the same as the MacNeil, it's MUCH nicer)  - 
http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4325812&cp=2943767.2018030&view=99&ab=ln_nodivision_cs8_shoes&parentPage=family

Slaton (Perf Cap Toe blucher)  -  http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4325816&cp=2943767.2018030&view=99&ab=ln_nodivision_cs8_shoes&parentPage=family

Singleton (penny loafer)  -  http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4325813&cp=2943767.2018030&view=99&ab=ln_nodivision_cs8_shoes&parentPage=family

Saunders (3 eyelet Chukka)  -  http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4360407&cp=2943767.2018030&view=99&ab=ln_nodivision_cs8_shoes&parentPage=family

I do not know the lasts that each are built on, but I know that the Sanderson runs TTS.  Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.  Hope this helps some of you...


Can some one tell me about the Sanderson is it really nicer material then the MacNeil
post #20547 of 47034
Quote:
Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

 

The SF version of the battle of the sexes.  My wife and I are buying a new house that needs some work/decorating/new furniture.  For some reason the cost of shoes and suits keep coming into the conversation relative to the cost of appliances and new furniture. 

Good luck with the house purchase and eventual move.  My family just did that last summer / fall and couldn't be happier.  Piece of advice: budget for everything then increase by 30%.

 

Edit: what I mean is that there will be extra things that pop up and additional charges that will increase your budgeted costs.. so plan for it.  

 

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Originally Posted by Cold Iron View Post

But of course. However I blame sevenfoldtieguy. His collection of shell has to be the Pope & Young museum equivalent for horses...

 

Oh my goodness, I AM normal!! Yes I think of many purchases in the terms of shell purchases including checks to the IRS, etc. Whew I was starting to get worried there for awhile! When I got home tonight the over sized hammock that the girlfriend wanted was sitting outside the garage, going to take me half a day to put that beast up in the yard. It was only one shoe instead of 30 pairs so I feel much better now about it ;-) But it is very important to keep the other half happy IMO.

 

 

Maybe I can help enable you to purchase another pair of shell instead of spending money on a gas grill.... 

 

 

Great Info on Charcoal Grilling (Click to show)

 

I have both and grill at least 3 times a week 52 weeks out of the year. Almost 100% on the Weber charcoal. It can be tricky when the temp gets down in the teens below zero F but it still works just takes longer. Hopefully you have the 22" Weber which allows for more accessories. I go through 40 20 pound bags of charcoal a year. It goes on sale at most large box stores soon for ~$10 for 2 20 pound bags. Get a Weber charcoal chimney to start the coals and you can use a hair dryer to help the process go faster by placing it at the base of the chimney. Replace the grilling grate with a cast iron grate and learn how to sear and slide steaks with the coals directly under the meat to start the sear. Meathead has a great site on how to do it. Pick up the rotisserie, all meat taste better on a stick. Learn how to do the minon method to keep the coals going and control heat. And you will have some of the best eating you have ever had in your life that few restaurants can reproduce. Of course starting with prime cuts of steaks and good meat always helps.

 

 

 

Dinner is Served. (Click to show)

 

 

chickens

 

 

Steaks:

 

 

 

 

 

Turkey

 

 

And sliced and stuffed pork loin, pork butt, etc. 

 

 

 

 

Cold Iron, fortunately for us, "normal" is relative... but I am happy to be your frame of reference!  

 

WiredandTired - listen to C.I. on the gas grill issue.  I, too have both a gas and charcoal Weber.  I am not as die-hard as C.I. is, but I do find myself using the charcoal when I have the time, which ends up being probably 2/3 of the total grilling I do in a year.  I have had 2 Weber Gas grills, both in the "2 pair of shell cordovan shoes" range, and the reality is that no gas grill can give the same flavor a charcoal grill can.  Take a cold beer outside and follow the directions CI laid out above, and you'll get the charcoal working in no time!  

 

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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

 

Perhaps I have given Cold Iron too much credit as the sole cause of the shell shortage.  Perhaps there is a secret Axis of Evil (Cold Iron, Bucksfan and Sevenfoldtieguy) responsible for this calamity.  Something to ponder as I look at spending three pairs of shell shoes on a new refrigerator.

 

Wow- I am humbled to be in the company of those two, on the topic of shoes.  

 

And, I chuckled at "Axis" - I prefer to think of us as a force for good, helping the world appreciate shell cordovan and working to ensure the profitability of a few great American companies (Horween, AE, Alden (sometimes)).  


Edited by bucksfan - 5/6/13 at 7:09pm
post #20548 of 47034
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Originally Posted by Michael Haines View Post


Can some one tell me about the Sanderson is it really nicer material then the MacNeil

 

I believe it is basically a Williams, from AE's independence collection, but also available in what looks like a very nice tan calfskin.  Can't speak to whether it is on AE's 2-last (like the Williams) or not... 

post #20549 of 47034
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Originally Posted by charliebrown2 View Post


cool site that I've never heard of.  thanks.

 

too bad not much data in it yet

 

Actually, if there's no way to put in width, it seems pretty pointless. Ideally, I'd think you could put in your actual size and how well it fits you in that size (runs long, runs wide, toe hurts, heel slips) to let you mine some interesting data. Like "most people size down from Strand to McTavish, some size down and go up in width, and those who don't size down at all have heel slippage".

post #20550 of 47034
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Haines View Post


Can some one tell me about the Sanderson is it really nicer material then the MacNeil

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by bucksfan View Post

 

I believe it is basically a Williams, from AE's independence collection, but also available in what looks like a very nice tan calfskin.  Can't speak to whether it is on AE's 2-last (like the Williams) or not... 

 

Here's a pic of my tan Sanderson. The leather feels softer than my other AE calf shoes, and they do have a combination heel like you see on the cordovan shoes. Maybe not as soft as the Independence collection, but I don't own any of those and have only seen them in the store. I'm not sure I would say they are way better than the MacNeils, but you can get them in some different colors at least. You may want to check the outlets if you are interested in seconds, as when I got a list during the last sale a few weeks ago they had several in my size. I also have the brown pair, although I have not worn them yet. I had actually ordered their chukka boot called the Saunders, but they sent me the Sanderson by mistake. Couldn't fault them too much considering RL has the Sanderson, Saunders, Slaton, and Singleton. Easy to get confused. They also sent me a tan khaki version (second pic) initially instead of the calf version I wanted, but I was able to exchange. Unfortunately they were all out of Saunders by the time I got my order and tried to exchange it, but the brown Sanderson was so nice I never sent it back.

 

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