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Maybe I'm being overly picky with my new Daltons, but I wanted another opinion. I ordered a pair of firsts from the outlet because they had a coupon that got me 15% off. After three wears, a bunch of the stitching on the boot was coming loose. AE replaced the pair and though they told me they were backordered 3-4 weeks, I had them in a few days--today. After looking at my second pair, I'm not overly thrilled with some of the small details. I've attached a few pictures, let me know if this is normal or excessively obtrusive flaws. I feel like a $395 retail pair of boots should show up at my door in flawless condition.

 

 

 

 

 

post #20372 of 47333
I would be inclined to return. The finishing looks quite subpar on them. I admire the speed in getting you a second pair, but I would've gladly waited for an extra week for a well finished pair.

My calf Dalton's look much cleaner than that. I just received a pair of shell Dalton's recently. The actual welting to the sole is off and now it's got to be returned as well.

First few bumps with AE, hopefully the last.
post #20373 of 47333
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Originally Posted by polojock615 View Post

Dundees!  I know Cold Iron likes that word.

UH OH!! Please do me a favor and before you post pictures of them warn me so I will not be tempted. On the other hand I was thinking early today that I should sell my Alden Ravello chukka's and replace them with another AE Dundee. I really like your choice polojock615... smile.gif. The last thing I need is for you guys to get me started in exotic leathers, outside of shell that is. Although last year about this time I shot a sub gauge event with a lawyer down in Nebraska who had $250K of the finest SxS shotguns I have ever seen. And I kept staring at his chukka's in ostrich and croc, they were absolutely beautiful. He saw me looking at them and laughed then said aren't they great?! He said as soon as he saw them he thought they were the so damn pretty he just had to have them. I've been able to not think about those so much since then. Until now.

 

I agree very much with everyone else that it is great to get things back on track in this thread. The one good thing over the last couple of weeks is that englade321 has posted what has become two of my favorite posts that have ever been posted on SF.

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Originally Posted by englade321 View Post

I warned you! (Click to show)

I just came over here looking for info @ some shoes im interested in and i find you guys messing around with SHELL CORDOVAN . Do you guys have any idea how dangerous that stuff is ! You can never have enough . If you fret about spending $300 on shoes now you aint seen nothing. Mess with that stuff and you'll find yourself dropping $750 a pop and you'll be looking at another pair you gotta have while they'r still in the mail Dont take my word for it. Go lurk around the alden thread . Those poor guys got problems . Not only is the stuff outrageously priced .Its hard to find . Just when you realize you cant live without that pair of color4 captoe boots w/commando soles you find they'r all sold out and the manufacturer dosen't when if ever they will ever be made again . This is no way to live . You just stay away from that stuff you be a lot happier and certainly a lot wealthier . Dont say you wern't warned

 

 

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Wisdom (Click to show)

The argument is a very useful tool to process differing views, present facts ,hopefully come to agreement and thereby gain knowledge . When insults are introduced because of the infantile need to be " right " ignorance becomes the only possible end result

 

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post #20375 of 47333
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Originally Posted by ylkim30 View Post

I think people really have to learn to chill out a little bit. It's like once every two days there's a new flame war on this thread. And it is always much ado about nothing.

 

The off-topic vendettas are clogging up this thread.

 

+1 ..Couldnt have said it better myself.  All of these petty retorts and goofy but veiled, psuedo-know-it-all attempts at advancing petty quarrels really have no place here. 

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Originally Posted by harlequin782 View Post

 

+1 ..Couldnt have said it better myself.  All of these petty retorts and goofy but veiled, psuedo-know-it-all attempts at advancing petty quarrels really have no place here. 

 

The world is a beautiful place just full of people waiting to be offended.

 

CH

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Originally Posted by harlequin782 View Post

 

+1 ..Couldnt have said it better myself.  All of these petty retorts and goofy but veiled, psuedo-know-it-all attempts at advancing petty quarrels really have no place here. 

+2

 

...but this is the internet, and this is exactly where juvenile, know-it-all, "tougher than I really am" comments take place. The fact that it's a Classic Menswear thread doesn't make the quality of people any better.

post #20378 of 47333

Spoke with Debbie today, got some shell samples heading my way. Also confirmed with her Eagle County can be ordered in Dublin leather....

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Originally Posted by cosmicmes View Post

Allen Edmonds will NOT do a "re-crafting" on shoes with a "W" branded into them. As for the "double-drill", I have bought quite a few, and if they are "seconds" I can't find them, and I own over 50 pairs. I do own some of the used "double drills" that I bought on ebay. I don't quite buy into the sellers' "to keep them from being exchanged at retailers". Something smells, and it's why I found this forum. Aside from buying direct, you can get fantastic buys from some of the smaller retailers, often a 90% off, barely used, and definitely eligible for re-crafting. As far as American shoes, there's A/E, and everyone else. Some of the shoes, however, are greatly dependent on how your foot fits with the different "lasts". The terminology, shoe care, and everything you need to know about shoes is on allenedmonds.com. PS, I strongly advise buying, and this is VERY IMPORTANT, the proper, high quality cedar shoe trees, and flannel bags to store your shoes in. I buy all my trees and bags from A/E, the cost add up, but it's a false economy to skimp on this issue. If you can't afford it, don't buy it, or save up. I can tell you I learned a very bitter lesson years back, not to be repeated. Another thing thing I highly recommend is reading EVERYTHING that the A/E website has to say about shoe care, they have videos, Q&A's, and a GREAT spreadsheet that you can download that tells you exactly how to care for the majority of their shoes. And most/all of their info is applicable to other brand shoes as well. 

One final, important message. It behooves, strongly to really read the section on Cordovans, they are literally a "horse of a different color" as they are made of horse hair. DO NOT treat them as you would regular calf leather! You can ruin them, and they are, as many as you know, VERY EXPENSIVE! Also, regarding "distressed leathers" and suede leathers are also treated differently. Read what they say, and reread and re-watch all their videos before you start shining away! 

I said "final" on my last paragraph, but I lied. Something that I had never heard of, but by using the same brushes, rags, etc, will in time change the color of your shoes. I recommend buying the different brushes, marking the colors, and stick to them. The cost will pay for itself, over time. With quality shoes, you need to take a long-term view, because a shoe such as A/E could last you a lifetime. No, I DO NOT work for them in any way, but after being burned by some of the thing listed above, and paying large amounts of money for imported shoes, I've learned the hard way. And as long as the dollar remains weak, I'd stay away from imported good as much as possible. And avoid buying any brand from any "merchant" from Asia. A lot of crap, and a lot of fraud. I'm not talking about large Japanese companies, but of the re-sellers, and owners of companies who do "great knock-offs" until it rains, or time passes..... Hope this helped some. Good luck!

In 2012 they recrafted a pair of mine that had a W. However, they called me before commencing work on the shoes to tell me they cannot guarantee their work. They wanted to make sure I still wanted to do it. I said yes. They did a wonderful job. Indeed, nothing could be detected as a defect - either before or after the recraft.
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I just received my calf patriots and had some sizing questions.

 - I ordered the same size as my strands & pa's 9.5E.

 

The length is perfect and width however I am experiencing a little

bit of heel slipping.  Did any of you experience any sort of heel

slipping when you first got yours? Could it be due to the sole not

being broken in?  I'm worried that once they break in that they

may end up being too loose.

 

I'm currently wearing the no show loafer socks and experiencing

the slipping.

 

Also, since these were seconds do you find the stitching on the

toe acceptable?

 

 

 


Edited by itsmejson - 5/3/13 at 8:23pm
post #20381 of 47333

Thanks again for the idea Cold Iron. I dropped by my clinic after work, where my Podiatrist happens to work on Fridays. Someone had just canceled their appointment and I was seen right away. She immediately knew what I was talking about and told me she would call my insurance and arrange for them to be made right away. She said they would work just as well as my current orthotics for supporting my foot but wouldn't give me the same level of stability for my ankle since it would be a much smaller form factor orthotic. However, she would look in to options for adding special support pins that wouldn't cause the heel to be too large and could still be worn with dress shoes. I'm very glad you suggested that and that I was able to get it all accomplished this afternoon with no extra effort.

 

Now I just have to convince my wife that we have extra cash for me to buy another pair of AE shoes. As soon as there is a sale that is... if I can wait that long.

post #20382 of 47333
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Originally Posted by itsmejson View Post

I just received my calf patriots and had some sizing questions.

 - I ordered the same size as my strands & pa's 9.5E.

 

The length is perfect and width however I am experiencing a little

bit of heel slipping.  Did any of you experience any sort of heel

slipping when you first got yours? Could it be due to the sole not

being broken in?  I'm worried that once they break in that they

may end up being too loose.

 

I'm currently wearing the no show loafer socks and experiencing

the slipping.

 

I find that for loafers, it's best to size down a half or full size (depending on the last). I assume it's because there are no laces on loafers to keep the shoe on.

post #20383 of 47333
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Originally Posted by MZWilson View Post

Maybe I'm being overly picky with my new Daltons, but I wanted another opinion. I ordered a pair of firsts from the outlet because they had a coupon that got me 15% off. After three wears, a bunch of the stitching on the boot was coming loose. AE replaced the pair and though they told me they were backordered 3-4 weeks, I had them in a few days--today. After looking at my second pair, I'm not overly thrilled with some of the small details. I've attached a few pictures, let me know if this is normal or excessively obtrusive flaws. I feel like a $395 retail pair of boots should show up at my door in flawless condition.

 

 

For firsts, I feel that you should get a perfect shoe. Seconds are another story. 

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For what it's worth, I had no heel slipping at all in either of my shell patriots. I found the soles to be nice and pliable right out of the box. I'd consider returning and getting a smaller size.
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Originally Posted by bucksfan View Post

For what it's worth, I had no heel slipping at all in either of my shell patriots. I found the soles to be nice and pliable right out of the box. I'd consider returning and getting a smaller size.

I did order a 9.5D alongside the 9.5E. The 9.5D is way too tight
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