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I have the opportunity to snag my first pair of shell cordovan shoes (used on eBay), the only issue is they are 14B and I wear 14D on the 5-last.  The uppers look great, but they might be ready for a recrafting.  Does shell give enough that they would be able to stretch them over a 14D last, or would recrafting bring them back to a snug 14B?

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Originally Posted by russellmuscle View Post

I have the opportunity to snag my first pair of shell cordovan shoes (used on eBay), the only issue is they are 14B and I wear 14D on the 5-last.  The uppers look great, but they might be ready for a recrafting.  Does shell give enough that they would be able to stretch them over a 14D last, or would recrafting bring them back to a snug 14B?

 

Recrafting will bring them back to a 14B.  A 14D will likely be a no-go.  They just won't have stretched that much.  

 

I don't know what your budget is... but I'd recommend getting a new pair of seconds instead.  Or, if these on ebay are cheap enough - get them, and worst case scenario you can flip them if they don't fit... 

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Trying to fill a hole in my shoe collection.  I currently have:

 

AE Parkway - Brown burnished calf

AE Fifth Ave - Walnut calf

AE Cortland - Black calf

AE Neumok - Snuff suede

Florsheim - Royal Imperial brown pebble grain calf (these are my Macneils I guess until I can afford the burgundy shell - then they go on Ebay)

 

I was leaning toward the McAllister's in merlot/burgundy.  I think that would be a pretty versatile shoe, but then again if I want Macneil's in the same color it might be unneeded.  What about bourbon?  Color wise it may not vary much from my Florsheim's, no?  

 

Sorry, lots of questions but I just want to consider as many angles as possible.

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Received my shell Patriot seconds this afternoon.  Have to echo what everyone else has said regarding the shoe fitting like a slipper - wow!!  My only hesitation is that the finish of the shoes is marred on both toes.  It's slight enough that it is only visible in sunlight and pictures do not really show it.  It looks like someone spilled something on the toes that ate through some of the finish.  I'm thinking of keeping them and that a little Saphir brown cordovan polish might cover up the issue.  Thoughts?

 

 

 

 

 

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Have this dark blotch on the top of my Bourbon Strand. I've tried Reno'Mat to remove the polish on there thinking it was just a bad polish job, then I tried Renovateur and some more Reno'Mat, then I added a new layer of Saphir cream polish, etc. but nothing worked. As soon as I applied any sort of product to it, it would immediately get very dark until the leather dried, and then it ends up just sort of dark. It doesn't resemble the burnishing on the rest of the shoe, so I don't think that's what it is (unless it's just a bad burnishing job). I just applied a coat of Walnut polish to the area to see if it would help even things out. This is what I ended up with:






Any suggestions on how to minimize the problem? I know maybe no one else will notice during daily wear, but it's bothering the heck out of me. They're seconds, so I don't plan to return them -- I just want them to look their best.
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pair of brown patriots and a burgundy belt enroute.. the money goes so quick lol

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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

Received my shell Patriot seconds this afternoon.  Have to echo what everyone else has said regarding the shoe fitting like a slipper - wow!!  My only hesitation is that the finish of the shoes is marred on both toes.  It's slight enough that it is only visible in sunlight and pictures do not really show it.  It looks like someone spilled something on the toes that ate through some of the finish.  I'm thinking of keeping them and that a little Saphir brown cordovan polish might cover up the issue.  Thoughts?











I liked them so much that I after I received the brown shell ones I ordered the burgundy shell as well. You need to hurry though as today is the last day of the sale you may never again be able to buy shell for $359. What with the shell shortage and all you may never have an opportunity to buy shell again at any price.

I'm really joking around but $359 is a great price for shell. My brown ones had a little color variance on the upper as well and I used Saphir renovateur and some Alden brown wax and they now look like liquid chocolate. Could not be happier with the purchase. I wore them without socks yesterday and they were extremely comfortable.
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Originally Posted by Bzack View Post

Trying to fill a hole in my shoe collection.  I currently have:

AE Parkway - Brown burnished calf
AE Fifth Ave - Walnut calf
AE Cortland - Black calf
AE Neumok - Snuff suede

Florsheim - Royal Imperial brown pebble grain calf (these are my Macneils I guess until I can afford the
 burgundy 
shell - then they go on Ebay)


I was leaning toward the McAllister's in merlot/burgundy.  I think that would be a pretty versatile shoe, but then again if I want Macneil's in the same color it might be unneeded.  What about bourbon?  Color wise it may not vary much from my Florsheim's, no?  


Sorry, lots of questions but I just want to consider as many angles as possible.

What about some chukka boots? Dundees are nice (especially in cordovan). Maybe a slip-on loafer style? What do you want them for? Casual or dress?
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

Received my shell Patriot seconds this afternoon.  Have to echo what everyone else has said regarding the shoe fitting like a slipper - wow!!  My only hesitation is that the finish of the shoes is marred on both toes.  It's slight enough that it is only visible in sunlight and pictures do not really show it.  It looks like someone spilled something on the toes that ate through some of the finish.  I'm thinking of keeping them and that a little Saphir brown cordovan polish might cover up the issue.  Thoughts?











Try with saphir renovateur to remove imperfection at upper. Probably its factory polish.
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for those who think Saphir Renovateur is so good see (from the shoe care thread):

 

 


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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

I don't apply reno to the vamp of my shoes anymore. All of my older shoes that got Lexol treatments for years are still around. After I fed my newer shoes all Saphir and reno diets they are all cracking and in bad shape. I think reno should only be used on non-flex areas has a light cleaner and polish. Essentially it is good for traveling and such. It isn't a good conditioner, I actually think it is a better solvent and probably contributed heavily to my cracked shoes. Now, I Lexol the vamp, reno everywhere else and wax polish the toe and heel. Essentially bad experiences with long term reno use has got me off the cool-aid.
 

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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

The fact is, most Saphir products have questionable ingredients. Questionable by people who make shoes and work with leather. What do most of these people use? Lexol, and Bickmore. There is a reason for that, many of us, myself included ignored this, and I have been reaping the consequences.

Don't let the marketing hype fool you. Plus, there are a lot more people new to the shoe care game who have very little observations at this game. I have collected many and at this point I am dropping the kool-aid because of said experience. Than again do what you want.
 
 
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Originally Posted by mediahound View Post

for those who think Saphir Renovateur is so good see (from the shoe care thread):

I like Reno, and have had only positive experiences with it.

Nick at BNelson Shoes uses various Saphir products, Reno included. He knows a thing or two about shoes. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by Pastor View Post


What about some chukka boots? Dundees are nice (especially in cordovan). Maybe a slip-on loafer style? What do you want them for? Casual or dress?

Good questions and thank you for the feedback.  I do like the Dundees but have some Desert boots that I am waiting to wear out a bit more before I move into a nicer pair.  

 

These would be mostly for casual use in the SF definition business casual environment to be more specific.  I rarely wear a tie but do wear dress shirts, OCBD on Friday's.  Wool, linen, flannel pants.  I think McAllister's and Macneil's are more on that sort of casual side?

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Originally Posted by Bzack View Post

Good questions and thank you for the feedback.  I do like the Dundees but have some Desert boots that I am waiting to wear out a bit more before I move into a nicer pair.  

These would be mostly for casual use in the SF definition business casual environment to be more specific.  I rarely wear a tie but do wear dress shirts, OCBD on Friday's.  Wool, linen, flannel pants.  I think McAllister's and Macneil's are more on that sort of casual side?

A shell cordovan Dundee would work just fine for your intended uses. As would a shell cordovan Leeds. I would suggest going with one of those models in burgundy shell. nod[1].gif
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Originally Posted by mediahound View Post

for those who think Saphir Renovateur is so good see (from the shoe care thread):



I haven't read the entire thread but both post you quoted were by one member. I know for a fact that B. Nelson (arguably the best shoe guy in the U.S.) uses Saphir. So does Stephen at Leffot as well as Ron Rider. I'd be interested in knowing "which" ingredients are questionable. Sounds like gibberish to me. I use Saphir Reno on all my shell shoes and I use Saphir wax polish on all my calfskin shoes. I've never had any issues and that is with 25+ pair of shoes.
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Originally Posted by Pastor View Post


I haven't read the entire thread but both post you quoted were by one member. I know for a fact that B. Nelson (arguably the best shoe guy in the U.S.) uses Saphir. So does Stephen at Leffot as well as Ron Rider. I'd be interested in knowing "which" ingredients are questionable. Sounds like gibberish to me. I use Saphir Reno on all my shell shoes and I use Saphir wax polish on all my calfskin shoes. I've never had any issues and that is with 25+ pair of shoes.

i guess the question is do they use or sell Saphir because it really performs the best, or just because people request it so much?

 

i also don't really get the impression that Stephen at Leffot knows a whole bunch about caring for shoes as exemplified by his video here where he is using way too much polish and stuff on shell cordovan and does it every 2 weeks?:

 

 

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