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post #19861 of 46528

Assuming I paid around 130, and a new pair can be had for 180, how much is a decent partial refund to where I should consider keeping the shoes? Is this crack something that is likely to get worse?

post #19862 of 46528
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Originally Posted by Dugan View Post

My understanding is that they use a composite (Fiberglass?) shank, as opposed to a metal one, but they do use one. 

 

I'm not 100% on this, just what I was told. 

 

They do not use shanks.  They used them on their 270 degree welted Executive line, due to the nature of the construction, but when they quit making those, the shank went with them.  They have never used shanks in their regular 360 degree welted shoes.  Some people spot the fiber heel tuck that is located in the heel area of the cork cavity.  This isn't a shank, it is there to provide a medium for the serrated nails to grip when they drive the nails in from the bottom up during heel base attachment.  Most other Goodyear-welted shoes nail their heels on from the inside down (going through the heel area of the insole).  That is one of the reasons that all other companies have 3/4 length heel cushioned sock-liners.  They have to cover up and cushion your heel against the nail heads.  This isn't necessary with AE due to the way they build their shoes. 

post #19863 of 46528
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Originally Posted by DerangedGoose View Post

Assuming I paid around 130, and a new pair can be had for 180, how much is a decent partial refund to where I should consider keeping the shoes? Is this crack something that is likely to get worse?

 

If you use a shoe horn (which hopefully you are), then the crack will probably not spread due to it's location.  It is in a part of the shoe that isn't flexing and stretching, and the heel area is reinforced with a celastic heel stiffener between the lining and leather upper.  You can probably fill it in with some colored cream polish to match colors, and then use some wax polish to build up the surface some (depending on how deep it is). 

 

On a side note, is that a Christmas tree in the background of the photo?  Have you had these since Christmas without wearing them outdoors?  I only ask because you can often return shoes that haven't been worn outside, but if you have been wearing them for several months I wouldn't think that returning them would even be an option. 

post #19864 of 46528

Haha no, its actually an oversized set of mardi gras (purple green yellow) beads Ive had lying around for a while. I just received the shoes a couple days ago, they were bought as used shoes off ebay. The seller offered me a discount, I am just trying to decide how much I want to press them for or if I should just return them and go with new shoes

post #19865 of 46528
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Originally Posted by DerangedGoose View Post

Haha no, its actually an oversized set of mardi gras (purple green yellow) beads Ive had lying around for a while. I just received the shoes a couple days ago, they were bought as used shoes off ebay. The seller offered me a discount, I am just trying to decide how much I want to press them for or if I should just return them and go with new shoes

 

Ahh, that explains it. biggrin.gif

post #19866 of 46528
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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post

 

They do not use shanks.  They used them on their 270 degree welted Executive line, due to the nature of the construction, but when they quit making those, the shank went with them.  They have never used shanks in their regular 360 degree welted shoes.  Some people spot the fiber heel tuck that is located in the heel area of the cork cavity.  This isn't a shank, it is there to provide a medium for the serrated nails to grip when they drive the nails in from the bottom up during heel base attachment.  Most other Goodyear-welted shoes nail their heels on from the inside down (going through the heel area of the insole).  That is one of the reasons that all other companies have 3/4 length heel cushioned sock-liners.  They have to cover up and cushion your heel against the nail heads.  This isn't necessary with AE due to the way they build their shoes. 

Just curious, when a shoe is 270 degree welted, what process is used to hold the rest of the shoe in-place (assuming the non-welted part is the part that goes around the heel)?

post #19867 of 46528
Wingham loafer bought brand new at a thrift store on Tuesday.

post #19868 of 46528

Grr, they so easily acquiesced to refund my purchase price down to $100 dollars, perhaps I should have asked for more tounge.gif

 

 

all in all is 100 dollars for a pair of spotless kenilworths (save for a small heel crack) a good deal?

post #19869 of 46528
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Originally Posted by DerangedGoose View Post

Grr, they so easily acquiesced to refund my purchase price down to $100 dollars, perhaps I should have asked for more tounge.gif

 

 

all in all is 100 dollars for a pair of spotless kenilworths (save for a small heel crack) a good deal?

 

Yes, good deal

post #19870 of 46528
Try running to a local cobbler and see what they can do about the crack. I don't know a thing about that kind of repair, but who knows...maybe it won't be a lot. It may not look perfect, but hey.
post #19871 of 46528

Alas, the saddle shoe Webgem is gone and any record of the shoe on AE's website has been completely removed! I was certain that orders were open until the end of May, but perhaps it was really April? You snooze, you lose... Bummer, I really liked that shoe too.

post #19872 of 46528
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Originally Posted by AZsundevil View Post

Alas, the saddle shoe Webgem is gone and any record of the shoe on AE's website has been completely removed! I was certain that orders were open until the end of May, but perhaps it was really April? You snooze, you lose... Bummer, I really liked that shoe too.

 

That was definietly sooner than normal, I wonder if they took it down early?

post #19873 of 46528
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Originally Posted by cbtaylor View Post

 

That was definietly sooner than normal, I wonder if they took it down early?

It looks like the whole webgem section is gone.  Maybe a glitch?  Good thing I already ordered my orange ones!

post #19874 of 46528

Well this is the link where they were located: 

 

http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF2484_1_40000000001_-1

 

I had it bookmarked because I was simply fawning over these shoes. The webpage now reads, "We're sorry. This product has recently sold out and is no longer available for purchase. We are in the process of removing it from our website."

 

The Allen Edmonds factory store for Phoenix is somewhat on my route to work. Next Monday morning I may stop in and inquire about the shoes.

 

Edit: Scratch that; why go to the trouble when I could let my fingers do the walking instead? I sent an e-mail to AE customer service asking whether the shoes will become available again. The only reason I'm being so persistent about this is that I was very certain the website said they would be taking orders through May. 


Edited by AZsundevil - 4/26/13 at 2:29pm
post #19875 of 46528

Question, I know AE makes shoes that Lands End sells, but does anyone know who makes the LE brand name shoes?  Specifically the Fulton loafer.  It's $149 on the website right now but they are running a 40% off sale.  $90 for a pair of loafers that appear good year welted might be too good to pass up - even more so if they are made by AE under the private label.  I did read that they may be made by Samello in Brazil whom I have never heard of.  Can anyone confirm or deny?

 

Thanks.

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