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post #19651 of 47333
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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post

While I don't agree with everything here, I think there is alot of wisdom to what mexicutioner has said.  Initially, you said that the McAllister may be a bit too flashy, but it isn't nearly as flashy as the blue Webgem you are looking at.  Starting off in a career, you probably don't want your first impression the simply be "the guy with the bright blue shoes."  Something more conservative and utilitarian is much safer and more versatile.  The only thing that I disagree with is the sweeping exclusion of anything balmoral.  There are several balmorals that are perfectly fine for what you are aiming at.  Heck, even the blue Webgem is a balmoral, and it surely isn't dressy.  In fact, balmoral construction can take an otherwise very casual shoe and dress it up just enough to make it work with business casual.  Allen Edmonds runs sales very frequently, and since you live near a factory seconds store, you will have access to shoes on sale regularly.  I wouldn't get a pair of shoes that isn't really what you need simply because it is a little bit cheaper in the moment.  These shoes will last you a long long time, and you will forget about the extra $25 or $50 you spent to make sure you have what you really need in no time. 

balmorals are inherently dressy, so any casual balmoral has to add a lot of casual elements to overcome the inherent dressiness. nine times out of ten, that added stuff takes them out of the realm of versatile.

walnut strands are a very light color with tons of broguing. they're quite casual, but they stand out like a mf.

similarly, my natural-colored neumoks go great with jeans, but only because they're made from a very rough-looking leather, which is even more casual than suede.

this is why i said he should stick to bluchers: you can easily find a simple, dark brown blucher that will work with casual clothes. not so with balmorals.

in summary: i didn't mean to imply that there are no casual balmorals. only that it's easier to find a casual, versatile blucher than balmoral.
post #19652 of 47333
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Originally Posted by mexicutioner View Post


balmorals are inherently dressy, so any casual balmoral has to add a lot of casual elements to overcome the inherent dressiness. that added stuff takes them out of the realm of versatile.

walnut strands are a very light color with tons of broguing. they're quite casual, but they stand out like a mf.

similarly, my natural-colored neumoks go great with jeans, but only because they're made from a very rough-looking leather, which is even more casual than suede.

this is why i said he should stick to bluchers: you can easily find a simple, dark brown blucher that will work with casual clothes. not so with balmorals.

 

I am really speaking within the context of a business casual environment such as the OP's which is teaching.  The teachers I am familiar with are just fine wearing nice looking jeans or chinos with a button up shirt.  There are balmorals that will fit perfectly into this type of clothing environment without removing their versatility.  The Finch (particularly in Tan, which would have to be found in seconds at this point) or the McTavish in Cognac would be great options in my opinion.  I agree that most of his choices should be bluchers, but I think there are a couple of balmorals that can work.   

post #19653 of 47333
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Originally Posted by AZsundevil View Post

Thank you to everybody who replied to my shoe conundrum! Now I've narrowed it down to the Rapid City, the Kenilworth, and... dare I say it... the Webgem saddle shoe that was posted earlier. I kinda dig the blue saddle contrasting with the brown last. Can I get some more opinions on this shoe?



I wasn't planning on buying until mid-May (end-of-semester gift to myself), and at that point the sale on the other shoes will be over whereas these Webgems are listed at $199 through the end of May. That's another selling point for me. Does AE have sales frequently?

I agree that the webgem wouldn't be a good choice for your first shoe, since versatility and avoiding too much show-iness will be more of a priority at this point in time. I have the Kenilworth in burnished brown and love them but have yet to wear them with jeans (no aversion to it, I actually like the look, just haven't had the opportunity yet). Personally, based on what I remember my teachers wearing in school, I think the Rapid City's would be your best bet. The Kenilworth would be great if you just needed them for work; but I think the more casual look of the Rapid City's will fill more of your needs for a first shoe. This is depending, of course, on how casual/formal you normally dress outside of the workplace (I'm assuming more casual).
post #19654 of 47333
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Originally Posted by AZsundevil View Post

Thank you to everybody who replied to my shoe conundrum! Now I've narrowed it down to the Rapid City, the Kenilworth, and... dare I say it... the Webgem saddle shoe that was posted earlier. I kinda dig the blue saddle contrasting with the brown last. Can I get some more opinions on this shoe?

 

 

I wasn't planning on buying until mid-May (end-of-semester gift to myself), and at that point the sale on the other shoes will be over whereas these Webgems are listed at $199 through the end of May. That's another selling point for me. Does AE have sales frequently?


I like the webgem (obviously) but what everyone else is telling is practical and good advice. The webgems are great at a great price, however you can probably find a good dress shoe as mentioned by MoneyWellSpent. You're a teacher, so you really don't have to play as many "political" games as someone in the business world does. I see this as a good thing. The saddle oxfords are a "look at me shoe", but only you know if you're cool wearing a shoe like that. I for one am. I have the Finch in this same combination. If you miss out on this webgem, you could certainly look for the Finch from the outlet. Those are from the Rough Collection and look great with khakis and jeans alike. Get what you like. It's not like this will be your last pair of shoes. I have a feeling you'll end 2013 with at least 3 pairs of AE's maybe more fing02[1].gif

post #19655 of 47333
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Originally Posted by AZsundevil View Post

Thank you to everybody who replied to my shoe conundrum! Now I've narrowed it down to the Rapid City, the Kenilworth, and... dare I say it... the Webgem saddle shoe that was posted earlier. I kinda dig the blue saddle contrasting with the brown last. Can I get some more opinions on this shoe?



I wasn't planning on buying until mid-May (end-of-semester gift to myself), and at that point the sale on the other shoes will be over whereas these Webgems are listed at $199 through the end of May. That's another selling point for me. Does AE have sales frequently?

I would not get that Webgem if you're aiming for versatility.

I thought the Kenilworth is probably the best fit for your purposes, perhaps in the Bourbon or Walnut colors. The AE 5 last is probably one of the sleeker lasts they have, but it's not really that sleek when compared to some shoes made in England or Spain. For instance, the Carmina Forest last is considered one of the less-sleek lasts they have, more suitable for bluchers and boots, but it's shape is pretty similar to the AE 5 last in my opinion.

AE 5 last


Carmina Forest last
post #19656 of 47333
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Originally Posted by mexicutioner View Post

^ don't get that webgem. the less money you have and the fewer shoes you have, the more crucial it is that whatever you get is as versatile as possible. that saddle shoe might be a nice shoe to have as your fifth, tenth, or twentieth pair of shoes, but i would absolutely not recommend getting it as your first pair.

kenilworth: it's kind of a dressy shoe. i personally wouldn't wear it with jeans. i know you said you wanted sleek, but some shoes are too sleek to look good with casual clothes. this is a personal decision.

rapid city: it's pretty casual and would go great with jeans and khakis, but as you said, it's not very sleek.

other good, first timer versatile shoes:

- leeds in anything but black
- dalton in anything but black
- blucher wingtips such as the macneil.
- chukkas (not sure if AE makes them in anything but suede, which you said would be too casual)
- Rawlins in dark brown (it's similar to the Kenilworth but is on the #8 last); only seen it once at Nord Rack, but it's a great looking shoe

things not to get:
- anything black
- anything in a balmoral (aka oxford) style. too dressy. when you need a dress shoe, you'll know it. (possible exception: AE strand in walnut)
- anything that looks fun or eye catching. you want something that you can wear all the time and will just blend in.
+1 for MacNeils. I wear mine (walnut grain) with both slacks AND jeans and out of 9 pairs of AE I own, they are one of my favorite shoes. Love the MacNeil!
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I too see no problem dressing up a casual look. Here are my Strands looking like a million bucks after a good polish, then out the next day dressing up some Dockers in a business casual environment (more on the casual side). Also love my natural tan and my grey McTavishes for the same sort of look. Oh and then there's the walnut Dalton's with jeans, Chinos or dress slacks. Anything goes!
post #19658 of 47333
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Originally Posted by tampatravel View Post


I like the webgem (obviously) but what everyone else is telling is practical and good advice. The webgems are great at a great price, however you can probably find a good dress shoe as mentioned by MoneyWellSpent. You're a teacher, so you really don't have to play as many "political" games as someone in the business world does. I see this as a good thing. The saddle oxfords are a "look at me shoe", but only you know if you're cool wearing a shoe like that. I for one am. I have the Finch in this same combination. If you miss out on this webgem, you could certainly look for the Finch from the outlet. Those are from the Rough Collection and look great with khakis and jeans alike. Get what you like. It's not like this will be your last pair of shoes. I have a feeling you'll end 2013 with at least 3 pairs of AE's maybe more fing02%5B1%5D.gif

If you are a teacher the saddle shoes are classically academic. While not as versatile, these will work in your rotation.
post #19659 of 47333
Bourbon McAllister is my pick. I understand it may be dressier than you think you need, but it still looks good with jeans and will pair well with any trousers you throw at it (save for black, which you shouldn't be wearing anyway). They stand out a bit because of how nice they are, not because they are bright blue or have contrast stitching, etc. They're classic.

I briefly taught right out of college and I did get much respect from my kids (high school age) initially. They tried taking advantage of me and in hindsight, I probably dressed younger. Given the chance to do it again, I would have differentiated myself as much as possible from the get go. Smart shoes, trousers or dark wash jeans that fit, a shirt, and tweed blazer gives no doubt as to who is in charge in the classroom -- the one who dresses like an adult.

None of this may apply to you and that's fine. It's just my personal experience and frankly, buying AEs is a great first step, regardless of model. Good luck with teaching. You get much respect from me for doing it.
post #19660 of 47333
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Originally Posted by Master Squirrel View Post


If you are a teacher the saddle shoes are classically academic. While not as versatile, these will work in your rotation.


Quite true, though I'd go for a solid tan Finch or perhaps the Shelton in this case.  I like the color pop versions for what they are, but not as a "first for your career workhorse shoe."

post #19661 of 47333
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Originally Posted by BCer View Post

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I too see no problem dressing up a casual look. Here are my Strands looking like a million bucks after a good polish, then out the next day dressing up some Dockers in a business casual environment (more on the casual side). Also love my natural tan and my grey McTavishes for the same sort of look. Oh and then there's the walnut Dalton's with jeans, Chinos or dress slacks. Anything goes!

 

I fully agree.  Looking good!

post #19662 of 47333
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Originally Posted by MacktasticGDogg View Post


I would not get that Webgem if you're aiming for versatility.

I thought the Kenilworth is probably the best fit for your purposes, perhaps in the Bourbon or Walnut colors. The AE 5 last is probably one of the sleeker lasts they have, but it's not really that sleek when compared to some shoes made in England or Spain. For instance, the Carmina Forest last is considered one of the less-sleek lasts they have, more suitable for bluchers and boots, but it's shape is pretty similar to the AE 5 last in my opinion.

AE 5 last


Carmina Forest last

 

+1 on the Kenilworth.  I find it to be a highly versatile shoe.

post #19663 of 47333
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Originally Posted by alvin545 View Post

The Leeds only come in black, but the Kenilworth comes in a variety of colours. Maybe you can get lucky and find a factory 2nd.

You can get the Leeds in brown from Lands End:


http://www.landsend.com/pp/mens-allen-edmonds-leeds-plain-toe-blucher-shoe~205635_-1.html
post #19664 of 47333

Hello all, I posted this initially in another thread and I thought it'd be a good idea to tap into the posters on this thread here.

 

I'd like some advice as I'm about to graduate from college and enter the working world and would really appreciate your collective knowledge...

 

Currently, I have a boxy pair of cordovan (the color) blucher Eccos, a pair of black blucher Bostonians (akin to these, without the stitch cap)

 

 and tan Johnston & Murphy loafers.

 

I tentatively plan on getting two suits MTM from suitsupply (would BB MTM on sale be better?), one mid grey, one navy, and I'd like to get shoes to wear with them, in business casual settings, at night, and with jeans (these are all separate instances). I have two suits now, a charcoal pinstripe RLBL and subtle windowpane Armani Collezioni, neither of which are 100% interview-appropriate.

 

I was looking at AE shoes, and I thought I would get a pair of brown oxfords to round out my rotation, since I already have a serviceable black shoe (not the most formal, but that will come later). Although I was attracted to the Larchmont and other bluchers at first, now I am most interested the more formal balmorals. I'm leaning towards getting the walnut McAllisters to go with these suits along with the other settings I mentioned. Should I buy a brown Strand first, and as a second get the McTavish or McAllisters in walnut? What about other shoes in the same price range with tasteful brown oxfords?

 

Thanks for the help

post #19665 of 47333
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Originally Posted by Cold Iron View Post





And when you do a custom shoe you also get your choice of soles. I went with the natural thinking if I didn't like it easy enough to darken it. And I likely will with chili.



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