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If the shoe fits...
You've turned into Reevolving. He's a douchebag too.

Never heard of him. You can try to be a bully all you want, it really doesn't phase me and only reflects back upon yourself. 

 

Don't be suck a jerk. 


Edited by mediahound - 4/23/13 at 7:10pm
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Never heard of him. You can try to be a bully all you want, it really doesn't phase me and only reflects back upon yourself. 

He's not being a bully. Just telling it like it is...
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He's not being a bully. Just telling it like it is...

Feel better now? I'm def. not going anywhere so get used to it. 

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Feel better now? I'm def. not going anywhere so get used to it. 

You must be a miserable, miserable soul. And I'm now blocking you as others have done in this thread. You have some serious issues that I hope you resolve soon. Feel sorry for you. eh.gif
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You must be a miserable, miserable soul. And I'm now blocking you as others have done in this thread. You have some serious issues that I hope you resolve soon. Feel sorry for you. eh.gif

I know you'll still be reading. 

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I didn't know there was a DB blocker!  Whoohoo! 

 

Blocked. 

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No Bravo Zulu for me- I received my McTavish 2nds today and they have a 1/4" gash on the driver's side fender.  The size was off too.  I'm always an 11D and I think a 10.5 would be better.  My other AEs are on a 1 (511) last and these are a 5 (65) last which I see is the longest last in AE's arsenal. 

 

Looks like I've gotta say goodbye.

 

 

Sadly, I have to pay for shipping both ways because I'm stationed overseas and can only receive packages via USPS.  Bummer. 

 

With regard to the sizing: Some of the difference can be accounted for by the last. Additionally, the McTavish is made from cowhide, vs. most AE's in calfskin. Cowhide isn't as supple and doesn't form to the last as tightly, resulting in most people sizing down 1/2 size or width. Bummer on the gash, though...

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Originally Posted by ryansto View Post

 

With regard to the sizing: Some of the difference can be accounted for by the last. Additionally, the McTavish is made from cowhide, vs. most AE's in calfskin. Cowhide isn't as supple and doesn't form to the last as tightly, resulting in most people sizing down 1/2 size or width. Bummer on the gash, though...

What's the difference between cowhide and calf leather? I thought they were the same thing. 

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A cow is a grown-up tougher-skinned calf.

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Originally Posted by ColtSAA45 View Post

Paul,

In my opinion, Allen Edmonds represents the finest value in high end men's shoes on the market today. I have just purchased a pair of Regent wing tips during the current sale for $167 and this is an incredible price. I now own over 10 pairs of AE and am building up quite a collection. I won't even look at other brands like Cole-Haan that have gone over seas. Not only are your shoes great looking, but I feel good knowing that I am helping in a small way to employ Americans in an industry that had almost died out in this country. Thank you

Charles


nest.gif  Don't forget the Dominicans!  rotflmao.gif

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Thank you for the insight, ryansto- I didn't know that the cowhide vs. Calf made a difference.  I think a 10.5 would have been perfect.

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Originally Posted by mediahound View Post

Just received the AE Amok snuff suede chukka from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006WDMX7C/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B006WDMX7C&linkCode=as2&tag=tt-20

 

I had been watching it for a while and my size happened to come in stock so I jumped on it. 

 

For under $200., I thought it was a good deal. They are no longer available from Allen Edmonds (not sure why) so may be a good time to grab a pair. 

 

 

 

 

 

Did anyone else get in on this deal? Looks like they still have them in most sizes for $188. I got the snuffs and am considering getting the tan now. No squeaking so far with mine (knock on wood). 

 

The pics on Amazon do not do them justice, they look a lot better in person. 


Edited by mediahound - 4/23/13 at 6:27pm
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Paul,

I would say that I reasonably differ with this assessment. I own tons of AEs, but I think that the question is whether the step that is being done in the DR is a significant part of the construction or not. Does the rubber for the heel or the leather have to be made in the US? No.

In this case, though, the part being done in the DR *is* very important. We're talking about intricately designed, brogued, neatly stitched shoes. Now, the DR factory, I gather, does a very fine job of this, and I love my AEs (most in seconds quality) and I think the value trade-off is absolutely acceptable for AE. But that is a very significant step being done in the AE, even if they're not remotely close to being wearable. If you watch AE videos, they focus on the skilled workers who are looking at the leather, choosing prime pieces, cutting them, perfing/brogue-ing them, and sewing them together into an upper. In fact, when people on this forum complain about problems with the size of the caps, mismatched caps, mismatched leather colors, gouges, slices, missed-stitches, blotches, etc. all with the uppers in this portion of the construction. Now, I buy a lot of seconds, and I don't think these problems are too noticeable. But this potentially DR-produced step is a *huge* part of the process. But I don't know how you can reasonably state that this is a minor part of their construction. From most consumers points of view, who is looking at detailing, stitching and beauty in their shoe, this is a huge part of the construction process.

I'd say this is akin to a bike manufacturer making the gears and frame in another country, and then saying it's not even close to being rideable until they put on wheels, a chain and handle bars in the US. All while saying "our frames and gears are expertly crafted, hand selected, and utterly insignificant to the construction of a bicycle." I do *not* consider that bike to be made in the USA.

I don't consider a pair of brogued wingtips that had their uppers made in the DR to be made in the USA. I do consider AE as a great american company, with top notch support, great prices and wonderful construction. I will still buy AEs as high quality shoes. But the place of construction is, in my opinion, *not* properly represented.

Well said.


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*Note to mediahound- it IS an Allen Edmonds APPRECIATION thread, not a political/socio-economic ethics debate- so I am pretty sure most people reading this would appreciate it if you would piss off. Start another thread, or just take it outside...

 

I would hope that does not mean that content is restricted to cheerleading posts only.  One can have an appreciation of a brand, but still be critical of its methods or its message.  Seems to me that the concerns mediahound raised were stated in both a thoughtful and cogent manner - as was the detailed response by the AE CEO.  The sum total of that discussion has been highly informative, IMO.  Certainly moreso than yet another "AE are the bestest shoos eveerrrrr!" post.


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Originally Posted by Al in Philly View Post

For your reference, I am an 9.5E in the 5 and the 7 last.  The length is very good in both, the 7 is just a touch more generous in the ball of the foot, which I actually prefer (the 5 last is pretty snug).  I wear a 10D in the 1 last, but i'm sure a 9.5E would fit in that last as well.

Thanks Al! Hmmm.....

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Thanks!  Would you say the Dark Brown or Cappuccino is closer to Alden's Cigar?

I have Alden #8 and Ravello but no Cigar. But according to a post by jkater1 and pictures looks like Dark Brown is pretty close. http://www.styleforum.net/t/141581/allen-edmonds-appreciation-thread/18900#post_6287212

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Originally Posted by AmericanGent View Post

No Bravo Zulu for me- I received my McTavish 2nds today and they have a 1/4" gash on the driver's side fender.  The size was off too.  I'm always an 11D and I think a 10.5 would be better.  My other AEs are on a 1 (511) last and these are a 5 (65) last which I see is the longest last in AE's arsenal. 

 

Looks like I've gotta say goodbye.

 

 

Sadly, I have to pay for shipping both ways because I'm stationed overseas and can only receive packages via USPS.  Bummer. 

Ouch!! X2 especially with shipping, yeah being overseas can be no fun in many ways. For me I am the same size on the 1 and 5 last. But some other have had to change sizes between the 1 and 5 last. For the rough collection which is Horween Dublin leather I have to size down a half size. I am normally a 10D in the 1 and 5 last which is TTS but for my McTavish, Elgin and Black Hills I had to size down to a 9.5D. Hope that helps and good luck!

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