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Anyone know what Color and Style this great looking shoe is?



The above looks to be crockett and jones if I had to guess, Westfields. The chiseled toe makes me lean towards it being English.
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I'm not sure what those welts are called, but the MacNeils are classic "gunboat" longwing bluchers, so big welts and thick soles are usually part of the aesthetic.


I own 3 pairs of LWBs and they are all pretty "gunboaty"


L-to-R: AE MacNeil, RL Sanderson (by AE), Alden LWB


How did you size on the Sandersons?

I went TTS on the Sandersons. They are a little bit narrower than other AE lasts of the same size, but after a few wears they feel fine.
post #19533 of 47189
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And Jefferson which is a great shoe also. They each have their place in rotation.

 

The Strand is a very unique design which I like, a lot. If you lean toward the classic wingtip design the Cambridge is the McAllister\Jefferson in shell. It is available in burgundy and black but you could ask for a custom order in brown. I would still do the Strand in brown shell however. And get the Cambridge in Burgundy:

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The Cambridge is my favorite wingtip. If I had to pick one that is...

 

It's worth pointing out that the Cambridge has the McAllister-like throat broguing around the ankle unlike the Jefferson.

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I went TTS on the Sandersons. They are a little bit narrower than other AE lasts of the same size, but after a few wears they feel fine.

 

Thanks!  Any idea if it is on a custom last?  Sounds like it is maybe on or close to the 5 last?

post #19535 of 47189
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Supply and demand of course. There is an increased demand for shell from existing and new markets such as Italy and Japan. Horween supplies much of the shell produced and it takes 6 months to make. Nick Horween posted somewhere a few months ago (just did a quick search and couldn't find it) that the price of horse hides has increased dramatically and IIRC he slowed down production because of that. He purchases his hides from Canada and Europe where they are a source of food.

 

The US had a ban for almost 5 years on the slaughter of horses put in place by the Federal Government due in large part by the American love affair with horses. They lifted the ban about a year ago however there are no slaughter houses yet in the US that are processing horses. They are still being transported to Canada and Mexico. If we could get one or better yet several to open in the US it would certainly help with the supply side and end cost. 

 

Here's a quote from Skip Horween (the horse's mouth, if you will) from about 5 years ago:

 

 

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Good Afternoon
The shortage is real, although it has been worse recently than it has been for 15-20 years. In the most condensed version, years ago pre- car and tractor there was a plentiful supply of horse hides, primarily draft animals. That supply has diminished over time. For our business, and the cordovan production, we prefer only the largest hides available, as it takes just as long to produce a small cordovan shell that is not ideal size-wise for shoes as it does to produce a large one. The issue in a nutshell is not enough suitable hides—we have capacity available (not unlimited but more than we are currently making). The hide we use comes primarily from France where horsemeat is still consumed though I am told less than before, and so to add insult to injury the weakening dollar will also drive the shell price up substantially at least in the short run. Hope this helps and feel free to ask any further questions. Thanks and all the best---Skip Horween
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In other words, we need to start eating more horse meat.  Steak du cheval anyone?

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Originally Posted by GOP Shoe Guy View Post

They told me that for a custom color/one off Shell Cordovan pair for SF members, the price is $595, and we will not be charged the custom fees that would normally occur. Which I believe is $125-$150. So, I am paying retail for the shoe, but saving the custom cost. I suppose not a bad deal for a custom pair of Shell Cordovan.

Not a bad deal?!?!  That's an amazing deal.  Are you leaning any direction for what you may want to have made?

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 What do you think about a Flatiron (http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF1103_1_40000000001_-1)in Color 8?  The shell Kenilworth pictures posted a week or so ago looked great.  I might hop on the custom offer.

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I went TTS on the Sandersons. They are a little bit narrower than other AE lasts of the same size, but after a few wears they feel fine.

Thanks!  Any idea if it is on a custom last?  Sounds like it is maybe on or close to the 5 last?

People speculated that the RL last is similar to the 2 last. I don't own any 2 lasted shoes so I can't say for sure, but I don't think it's all that similar to the 5 last, at least not my 5 lasted shoes (Elgin & Neumok).
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People speculated that the RL last is similar to the 2 last. I don't own any 2 lasted shoes so I can't say for sure, but I don't think it's all that similar to the 5 last, at least not my 5 lasted shoes (Elgin & Neumok).

 

That makes sense given your description.  Sadly, the 2 last is the worst fitting last for my feet.

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The shell Kenilworth pictures posted a week or so ago looked great.  I might hop on the custom offer.

 

Yeah, I'm contemplating returning the ones I got with the blotches for $379 and paying the $200 more for firsts through a custom offer. It's also possible I should size down from 8.5D to 8E, but I'm unsure without trying on both. Wish Nordstrom had E widths I could try on.

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Originally Posted by GOP Shoe Guy View Post

I took advantage of Mr. Grangaard's post a couple weeks back and have been in communication with him/AE on getting a special color of Shell Cordovan in a pair of McNeils or William Williams, a longwing. Not sure which I am going to get yet. They are sending me swatches of what colors they have available... $$$

 

Your thoughts were similar to mine.  I would like the AE version of the Alden Longwing Blucher in cigar.

 

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Trying to picture the MacNeil didn't quite get me there.  Maybe a shell version of the Larchmont with a reverse welt double sole?  The 333 last fits me great.  Does anyone else have an idea?

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Yeah, I'm contemplating returning the ones I got with the blotches for $379 and paying the $200 more for firsts through a custom offer. It's also possible I should size down from 8.5D to 8E, but I'm unsure without trying on both. Wish Nordstrom had E widths I could try on.

 

As you probably know, many people go a half size down in size and a letter size up in width with the 5 last.  I go a full size down and two letters up in width (7.5EEE compared to 8.5E on other more TTS-fitting AE lasts).

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Did you inquire what shades of cordovan are available?

I'd imagine anything Horween offers as long as you're willing to wait if need be. 

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A few days back I was asking if the Aberdeens that I bought off of eBay might fit. They are a 10B and fit pretty well. I am wearing a 10C in my Strands and AE 5ths. I think the soft leather allows for a little more comfort. I could possible go a little longer but I think wider would have been a problem. I really like the look for a casual shoe with jeans and khakis. Here's a picture before I added some conditioner which took care of a any discoloration. I think I got a fabulous deal for $79 including shipping as they look brand new. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gificon_gu_b_slayer[1].gificon_gu_b_slayer[1].gificon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

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