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post #19351 of 53423
MediaHound -- I'd rather do it all in the USA and be able to simplify around Made in USA (full stop - no qualifier), but our business would most definitely be a lot smaller at those higher prices. Our U.S. employment would be a whole lot less, as a result, and our future prospects much less robust. We're trying to be accessible to a broad range of men and to sustain a great company. Sorry you're not in agreement with how we go about it.
post #19352 of 53423
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Originally Posted by AllenEdmondsCEO View Post

Just saw this.... I think I understand it and it cracked me up.

Glad to hear that. nod[1].gif I used it to suggest that the ensuing discussion would be thoroughly entertaining to observe, and it absolutely has been. Thanks for your participation in this forum, sir. Your posts have been interesting and informative, and have made me an even greater fan of your company. As a college student, I'm a relatively new Allen Edmonds customer and currently own only 2 pairs (black Park Aves. and brown Fifth Aves.), but I absolutely plan to acquire more as funds allow. No question in my mind that AE is indeed "The Great American Shoe Company".
post #19353 of 53423
Hi Paul,
I really do appreciate you being on this forum and responding in this manner. While you are here what's the possibility of getting more shoes made in the rare shell colors (i.e. walnut and cappuccino)? I have the Daltons in Walnut and the Dundees in cappuccino and these two shoes get lots of compliments. I'd love other shoes to be available in these colors or other shell colors besides #8, black, and brown.

Thanks!
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the chili calf Daltons that are on sale now.  Has all this discussion about "Made in the USA" distracted everyone?  Well, as my moniker implies, I am a boot guy and although I already have two pairs of Daltons (walnut shell and burgundy shell), I couldn't pass up this sale.

 

I'd been waiting for the walnut calf Daltons to go on sale as I really wanted a lighter color pair of Daltons (my pair of walnut shell Daltons are way darker than the calf walnut) but I will now need to be satisfied with the chili (for awhile anyway until the walnut calf go on sale).  I now have 6-8 weeks to wait...

 

Has anybody else succumbed?

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Originally Posted by BootSpell View Post

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the chili calf Daltons that are on sale now.  Has all this discussion about "Made in the USA" distracted everyone?  Well, as my moniker implies, I am a boot guy and although I already have two pairs of Daltons (walnut shell and burgundy shell), I couldn't pass up this sale.

I'd been waiting for the walnut calf Daltons to go on sale as I really wanted a lighter color pair of Daltons (my pair of walnut shell Daltons are way darker than the calf walnut) but I will now need to be satisfied with the chili (for awhile anyway until the walnut calf go on sale).  I now have 6-8 weeks to wait...

Has anybody else succumbed?

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post #19356 of 53423
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Originally Posted by linsook View Post

For the guys who keep asking for a ban, shut the f**k up. There are two men having a civil discussion and you lot can't keep your annoying jabs to yourself.

Yeah, it seems some here want to try to control, manipulate and bully me. It's not going to happen.
post #19357 of 53423
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For the guys who keep asking for a ban, shut the fuck up. There are two men having a civil discussion and you lot can't keep your annoying jabs to yourself.

So much for civility. smile.gif
post #19358 of 53423
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Originally Posted by mediahound View Post

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Paul,

 

If you are proud of what you're doing as you state above, why do you selectively hide what you are doing on your public website such as here?:

 

http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/PressReleasesView?langId=-1&storeId=1&catalogId=40000000001

 

Again, you talk a ton about your USA manufacturing all over your site left and right, but nothing on the offshore manufacturing. One would think you are trying to hide it or something.

 

If you are proud of that fact, why fail mention to it? In the link above, I don't even see a single press release on the DR plant, though I see tons of other press releases on many other (arguably less important) topics like holiday sales, etc. 

 

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Originally Posted by AllenEdmondsCEO View Post

MediaHound -- I'd rather do it all in the USA and be able to simplify around Made in USA (full stop - no qualifier), but our business would most definitely be a lot smaller at those higher prices. Our U.S. employment would be a whole lot less, as a result, and our future prospects much less robust. We're trying to be accessible to a broad range of men and to sustain a great company. Sorry you're not in agreement with how we go about it.

 

So you rather keep it hush hush I guess?

 

Let me be clear, I'm not in disagreement with what you are doing, just how sneaky you are about it. Although you have stated you are proud of what you are doing, it doesn't sound like this is the case since you mostly choose to hide this part of what you are doing everywhere on the website. 

post #19359 of 53423
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Yeah, it seems some here want to try to control, manipulate and bully me. It's not going to happen.

 

I don't know how you deal with all the persecution here in this thread that you liken to a North Korean police state.  **Roll eyes** 

 

In case anyone hasn't noticed, there is a direct correlation between Mediahound's posts and the attention we give him.  I think it's time we drown out his attention-seeking by ignoring MH and letting Paul know how much we appreciate his posting here. 

post #19360 of 53423
I just noticed the Berkshires in the Clearance Section of the Allen Edmonds site - and they are an additional 15% off through 4/29. I have the Berkshire so I shouldn't buy another pair - but I am tempted because this shoe is a screaming bargain at $125!

I really enjoy mine - great for jeans and khakis.


Chris
post #19361 of 53423
Thanks for taking the time to participate in the forum discussion Paul.

I have not owned any AE shoes until this past February (took advantage of the factory seconds sale). When I received my first pair (chili, BB-branded MacNeils), I was amazed at the difference in quality and construction compared to all of my previous shoes (Cole Haan, sneakers, etc). I finally "got it", and could see why AE customers are also typically loyal fans.

Due to the extremely accessible price-points of AE shoes (sales on factory seconds happen fairly regularly), I have now amassed a tiny collection consisting of 2 pairs of MacNeils and Neumoras, and one pair each of the Maxfield and Eagle County!

Thanks for making quality construction and value an emphasis of your company. I look forward to adding more pairs to my small collection in the future. All this talk of shell has me itching to try a pair!
post #19362 of 53423

This is the hot topic I suppose.  If I understand correctly, the main idea of the discussion is that Allen Edmonds bills itself a the "Great American Shoe Company", in some cases part or all of the shoe is fabricated in a foreign country, Allen Edmonds places marketing emphasis on the American made aspect of the business, and some people might perceive the marketing campaign as misleading (i.e. not properly disclosing the foreign made aspect of the business).  

 

I see this as a matter of perspective (is the glass half empty or half full?).  Take the press releases.  Perhaps they don't mention the off shore production or related activities, but I don't see why they should.  I'm not a marketing agent.  I didn't major in communications or business or anything like.  But I think press releases are meant as a way for a company to highlight events it feels are notable or newsworthy.  Increasing domestic employment, opening new US retail stores, purchasing more domestically produced leathers and clothing etc. are all notable events.  As Mr. Grangaard has pointed out it bucks the trend in which American companies increasingly look to foreign labor in an effort to reduce costs.

 

If anything, I would suggest that Allen Edmonds add a statement to the "About Allen Edmonds" section of the website that explains the company's position on employment and manufacturing vis-a-vis US based materials, labor, and production versus its foreign counterparts.  Perhaps that would satisfy the calls for greater transparency.  Consumers can decide for themselves the merits of Allen Edmonds as "The Great American Shoe Company".

 

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Originally Posted by mediahound View Post

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

 
 

 

Paul,

 

If you are proud of what you're doing as you state above, why do you selectively hide what you are doing on your public website such as here?:

 

http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/PressReleasesView?langId=-1&storeId=1&catalogId=40000000001

 

Again, you talk a ton about your USA manufacturing all over your site left and right, but nothing on the offshore manufacturing. One would think you are trying to hide it or something.

 

If you are proud of that fact, why fail mention to it? In the link above, I don't even see a single press release on the DR plant, though I see tons of other press releases on many other (arguably less important) topics like holiday sales, etc. 

 

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Originally Posted by BootSpell View Post

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the chili calf Daltons that are on sale now.  Has all this discussion about "Made in the USA" distracted everyone?  Well, as my moniker implies, I am a boot guy and although I already have two pairs of Daltons (walnut shell and burgundy shell), I couldn't pass up this sale.

 

I'd been waiting for the walnut calf Daltons to go on sale as I really wanted a lighter color pair of Daltons (my pair of walnut shell Daltons are way darker than the calf walnut) but I will now need to be satisfied with the chili (for awhile anyway until the walnut calf go on sale).  I now have 6-8 weeks to wait...

 

Has anybody else succumbed?

 

Yes, I think the "Made in the USA" discusion has been a big distraction and will continue to be.

post #19363 of 53423
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

I don't know how you deal with all the persecution here in this thread that you liken to a North Korean police state.  **Roll eyes** 

In case anyone hasn't noticed, there is a direct correlation between Mediahound's posts and the attention we give him.  I think it's time we drown out his attention-seeking by ignoring MH and letting Paul know how much we appreciate his posting here. 

I appreciate Paul posting here as I'm sure MediaHound does too. Paul has posted about manufacturing in DR about two years ago in a thread on that topic but has not been challenged on very valid points that Mediahound has brought up.

SF is a great place for discussion and disseminating information. You fucking losers that are trying to stifle that rich dialogue should just keep your mouths shut.
post #19364 of 53423
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Originally Posted by Pastor View Post

Hi Paul,
I really do appreciate you being on this forum and responding in this manner. While you are here what's the possibility of getting more shoes made in the rare shell colors (i.e. walnut and cappuccino)? I have the Daltons in Walnut and the Dundees in cappuccino and these two shoes get lots of compliments. I'd love other shoes to be available in these colors or other shell colors besides #8, black, and brown.

Thanks!

 

Here, here.  My dream AE is a Dalton boot in dark brown shell.  And, as popular as Ralph Lauren's version in brown shell is, I think it would be a huge seller for AE.  Paul, any chance we might see that in the future?

 

And, just to have my voice heard, Paul, I've only been buying AE shoes for two years now, but I've become a huge fan of the Company in that short time.  Your dedication to customer service is a model that other companies should strive for.  As is your willingness to post here and answer customer concerns, which further reinforces this commitment.

 

I also want to echo what another poster said regarding your unique niche in the market place of an affordable, quality goodyear welted shoe that is made in the U.S.  I, for one, am appreciative of all AE does to keep the shoes affordable and still maintain its dedication to manufacturing in the U.S.

post #19365 of 53423
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Originally Posted by linsook View Post


I appreciate Paul posting here as I'm sure MediaHound does too. Paul has posted about manufacturing in DR about two years ago in a thread on that topic but has not been challenged on very valid points that Mediahound has brought up.

SF is a great place for discussion and disseminating information. You fucking losers that are trying to stifle that rich dialogue should just keep your mouths shut.

 

Perhaps you should spend more time reading the past several weeks of posts in which this "rich dialogue" between the "adults" was hashed and rehashed and rehashed again and again and less time calling people losers and telling them to shut their mouth. Then, perhaps, you might notice the similarities between Mediahound and some nut in the audience who keeps heckling the speaker by shouting the same point over and over again.

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