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post #19186 of 43001

Are those burgundy shell Dalton's firsts or seconds? If they are firsts, I would not accept that. If they're seconds and they creases don't show any cracks or tears into the leather, then it should be fine. I'm sure you could brush most of them out.

post #19187 of 43001
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Originally Posted by masernaut View Post

Are those burgundy shell Dalton's firsts or seconds? If they are firsts, I would not accept that. If they're seconds and they creases don't show any cracks or tears into the leather, then it should be fine. I'm sure you could brush most of them out.

They're seconds. No cracks or tears in the leather. Glad to know they can be reduced by brushing. I'm glad the crease will covered by the pant bottom when wearing.
post #19188 of 43001
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Originally Posted by masernaut View Post

Are those burgundy shell Dalton's firsts or seconds? If they are firsts, I would not accept that. If they're seconds and they creases don't show any cracks or tears into the leather, then it should be fine. I'm sure you could brush most of them out.

This.
post #19189 of 43001
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Originally Posted by cmd06 View Post

So I did what members suggested by buying the burgundy Dalton instead of the chocolate brown one - despite the $300 difference.

This is my first purchase of shell cordovan and AE factory seconds. I'm unsure whether or not the defects shown in the images below are serious enough to return the burgundy pair. A) Is the shaft of the boot too battered-looking? B) Is it normal for black marks to be on the shaft? C) How bad are the horizontal white creases on the right side of each boot, midway down the shaft?

I'd especially appreciate any comments from people who returned factory seconds before, and what their reasons were.










A) There is some battering to the shaft, but I think after some wearing you will begin to see a different structure to the shaft. This wouldn't be a concern to me since these are seconds.

B) The black marks are a bit bothersome, but they will not be seen because your pant will cover it. You may want to try some reno mat to see if you can remove it. It may come off, it may not. Either way it won't be seen because of your pant, and I am sure the black marks is why this was marked as a second.

C) The creases wouldn't worry me much. I would try to smooth them out with a deer bone treatment. 

 

If these were firsts, I would send them back. As long as they fit correctly, I would keep these as seconds. You may be able to clean these up with some proper care. Either way, you have a beautiful boot that will last you a lifetime.

post #19190 of 43001
I spent some time applying edge dressing and Sapphire Reno to a few of my shell shoes last night.

AE Dalton in Walnut Shell - AE Dundee in Cappuccino Shell - Alden LWB in Cigar Shell

post #19191 of 43001

Those look great.  But is there a reason you used Reno rather than Saphir's Cordovan Cream?

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Originally Posted by RogerP View Post

Those look great.  But is there a reason you used Reno rather than Saphir's Cordovan Cream?

Can't speak for the poster, but I use both. I use Renovateur to clean and condition on occasion, but mainly use Saphir's cordovan cream to condition and shine. That said, I'm thinking of experimenting with the Cold Iron method of stripping them down with Renomat to see what I can achieve.
post #19193 of 43001
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

Can't speak for the poster, but I use both. I use Renovateur to clean and condition on occasion, but mainly use Saphir's cordovan cream to condition and shine. That said, I'm thinking of experimenting with the Cold Iron method of stripping them down with Renomat to see what I can achieve.

I too use both, but never both during the same treatment. Unless I want a bit of color infused into the boot/shoe, I will just use Reno or Saphir's cordovan cream in neutral.
post #19194 of 43001

Thanks for the responses.  Would I be correct in my understanding that Reno and Cordovan Cream essentially perform the same function, but that the latter is expressly formulated for Cordovan?  Or is there a difference?

 

I have both products, but my only pair of cordovan shoes is too new to need treatment.  But as I have a pair of Townleys inbound, and can see more horsebutt in my future, I'm trying to make sure I have this stuff straight.

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Originally Posted by RogerP View Post

Thanks for the responses.  Would I be correct in my understanding that Reno and Cordovan Cream essentially perform the same function, but that the latter is expressly formulated for Cordovan?  Or is there a difference?

I have both products, but my only pair of cordovan shoes is too new to need treatment.  But as I have a pair of Townleys inbound, and can see more horsebutt in my future, I'm trying to make sure I have this stuff straight.

I believe Reno is a neutral cleaner and conditioner, won't change the finish of the shoe. Cordovan cream conditions but also adds color.
post #19196 of 43001
I see many gentlemen are stripping down their cordovan shoes and trying to achieve a high shine from the leather. I always took cordovan leather to be used on more casually styled shoes. Wouldn't the high shine be going against the grain? I tend just to keep my pairs clean with Venetian cream and let them take on a natural patina.
post #19197 of 43001
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Originally Posted by cmd06 View Post

I am a 9.5 D in the PAs and a 9 D in the Kenilworths. It's strange because they're on the same last. However, I've heard bluchers/derbys can be like that versus oxfords/balmorals.

Thanks CMD.

I'll order size 8 in the park's... biggrin.gif
post #19198 of 43001

Any thoughts on the Grey PAs? You can get them for $210 before taxes ($230 total): http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF5995_1_40000000001_-1

 

My main concern is the color looks like a faded Black. And I already own the Black PAs... but I really like the shoe. Does anyone on this pair? How does it look with black or navy slacks?

post #19199 of 43001

My current AE's. Got some Boca Ratons coming in on Monday in Walnut.

 

 

 

 

post #19200 of 43001
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Originally Posted by GOP Shoe Guy View Post

Shirley got me the discount. An additional 20% off making them $360. :)

Good choice on the shell PA! And an even better price, that is $10 more than retail on the calf ones. I hope they turn out well for you.

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Originally Posted by bucksfan View Post

Some nice suede lately - well done gentlemen.  

 

Me: black calfskin Graysons today, scuffed up from my day.

 

 

 

 

Off topic, but today was also my inaugural wearing of a new sportcoat

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

(on one of Kirby's hangers).  Note the Mother of Pearl buttons, 3-button surgeon's cuffs and ticket pocket.  My tailor thought I was nuts, but I'm happy with how it turned out.  The lining doesn't show up well in the pic, but it's fairly reflective, almost silver...  A little wrinkley after a day's wearing, but you get the picture:

 

 

Well done bucksfan, sometimes I almost forget that you have calf too :)

 

Great job on that coat and I really like that lining. Assuming this is the same tailor that did your sharkskin suit you are a very lucky man to have such a great tailor. 

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Originally Posted by DuckOB View Post

 Hi

 

First time poster!  First I wanted to say thanks for all the helpful information contained in the 1278 pages.  Its been very helpful in care and sizing of my new shoe hobby or addiction depending how you look at it.

 

How I got here?  I am in my mid 40's and for some reason my feet have grown about a half size.  The doctor says my arches haven't fallen but no reason for the now larger feet.  I had a pretty nice selection of older Johnston and Murphy Signature shoes and some chukkas.  They no longer fit and I had to buy new shoes.  The first pair of nice shoes I bought were some Wolverine 1000 mile Courtlands - beautiful leather on these.  I found the style forum Wolverine page and read and read.  Then I found some reference to Allen Edmonds and started reading.  I liked the concept of American made and shoes that I could get recreafted so I bought a few - The Elgin great looking shoe.  The leather sole is hard to get used to since i hadn't really worn leather soles in a long time.  I needed some new dress shoes and bought the Bradley, super comfortable right out of the box.  I bought the Katmai because I liked the look, some tread and would probably last forever.

 

Not sure my picture (crappy Blackberry shot) will post as I am new, but will give it a try.  Here's my up and coming collection.  Now what's next :)  Again thanks and look forward to joining the conversations.

 

Nice first post! And great collection you have going. From a poll I saw on AAAC  it is common for men's feet to grow a half size sometime around 40, mine did too. Now what's next? Shell boots of course :-) No matter what you pick I'm sure it will be great. I never thought about putting colored laces in my Katmai's but love how they look in yours. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by polojock615 View Post

So the question was, "is the AE brown shell different from the dark brown shell?"  I know because I asked the question.  I HAVE THE ANSWER!  The answer is yes.  The brown is more olive and the dark brown is a stronger brown with a hint of red (I think).  The strands are brown and the dundees are dark brown.

 

 

AppleMark

 

AppleMark

I've been waiting a long time for someone to do that, thank you!

 

I didn't want to influence your decision ahead of time but I have run across several posts where others felt they were a different color also. And it certainly looks like it. I also use my brown Dundee's as a standard to measure other brown shell against, good call.

 

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Originally Posted by polojock615 View Post

New dark brown shell Dundees.  Now all I'm missing is cappuccino and I'll have the whole AE shell rainbow.  Cappuccino should be here in a few weeks!

 

 

AppleMark

Congrats on the Dundee's and also the cappucino pick up! Can't wait for pics and congrats on filling in the rainbow :-)

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Originally Posted by Pastor View Post

I spent some time applying edge dressing and Sapphire Reno to a few of my shell shoes last night.

AE Dalton in Walnut Shell - AE Dundee in Cappuccino Shell - Alden LWB in Cigar Shell

Beautiful pictures Pastor. Your work has been well rewarded by the results.

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