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I took delivery this afternoon of a pair of black shell cordovan Strands seconds. There was a bunch of white junk layered upon around the shoes' collars, but it all came off with some brushing.  The only defect I can find is the pictured splits in one of the shoe's uppers.  How serious of a problem is this?  It isn't particularly noticeable when the shoes are on, but I haven't owned as shell with this problem.  Should I return them?  I assume there is no way to fix the splits, which I can accept, but I don't know if this is a sign of other likely future problems.

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I have some fit issues with Daltons too.  I wear 11.5D Strands which fit absolutely like gloves.  McTavish's just squeezed the crap out of my feet, so had to exchange for 11.5E, and for the most part they are very good - slight bit of heel slip in the natural tan pair, but the grey ones I got on the screaming sale price I've worn more, so with the sole flexing now, the heel slip is gone. Now that our weather up here in the great white north is warming up, I'll get the non-butyl sole tan ones out, and with some more wear, hopefully the heel slip will disappear on those too.  Back to the Daltons...12D in those.  Fit length wise seems perfect, and width across the ball of my foot is a smidge tight.  However I have the dreaded HEEL SLIP too!  Again, I've only worn them maybe 6 times, so when the heavy sole softens up and starts bending more, I'm hoping the heel slip goes away too.  When the sole doesn't bend, in order for a normal walking stride, I figure the heel has to lift...make sense?  I almost have to choke my foot circulation off with tight lacing to eliminate any heel slip right now...Anyway, the Daltons definitely had to be 12's..11.5D's in Strands, 11.5E's in McTavish's and 12D in Dalton.  Not sure if that helps any!?

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Originally Posted by calidist View Post

 

I took delivery this afternoon of a pair of black shell cordovan Strands seconds. There was a bunch of white junk layered upon around the shoes' collars, but it all came off with some brushing.  The only defect I can find is the pictured splits in one of the shoe's uppers.  How serious of a problem is this?  It isn't particularly noticeable when the shoes are on, but I haven't owned as shell with this problem.  Should I return them?  I assume there is no way to fix the splits, which I can accept, but I don't know if this is a sign of other likely future problems.


I would return. The splits will likely spread.
post #19159 of 47333

Quick question. I am a 8.5E on the 5-last (strand). What size should I take for the 3-last (harrison)?

 

Cheers!

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Originally Posted by BCer View Post

I have some fit issues with Daltons too.  I wear 11.5D Strands which fit absolutely like gloves.  McTavish's just squeezed the crap out of my feet, so had to exchange for 11.5E, and for the most part they are very good - slight bit of heel slip in the natural tan pair, but the grey ones I got on the screaming sale price I've worn more, so with the sole flexing now, the heel slip is gone. Now that our weather up here in the great white north is warming up, I'll get the non-butyl sole tan ones out, and with some more wear, hopefully the heel slip will disappear on those too.  Back to the Daltons...12D in those.  Fit length wise seems perfect, and width across the ball of my foot is a smidge tight.  However I have the dreaded HEEL SLIP too!  Again, I've only worn them maybe 6 times, so when the heavy sole softens up and starts bending more, I'm hoping the heel slip goes away too.  When the sole doesn't bend, in order for a normal walking stride, I figure the heel has to lift...make sense?  I almost have to choke my foot circulation off with tight lacing to eliminate any heel slip right now...Anyway, the Daltons definitely had to be 12's..11.5D's in Strands, 11.5E's in McTavish's and 12D in Dalton.  Not sure if that helps any!?

 

 

I think I'm in the same situation you're in.  I think I will size up a half to get a looser fit.  Hopefully the slightly more room in the front won't be a tradeoff where I get too much heel slip.

 

I really like the Daltons.  I just really wish AE included flat waxed laces and replaced the top 3 eyelets with speed hooks, all eyelets makes the boot more work than it should lacing them on and taking them off.  I might be spoiled by the Wolverine 744s, but it'd be awesome if AE could consider revising that design.

 

 


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Originally Posted by calidist View Post

 

I took delivery this afternoon of a pair of black shell cordovan Strands seconds. There was a bunch of white junk layered upon around the shoes' collars, but it all came off with some brushing.  The only defect I can find is the pictured splits in one of the shoe's uppers.  How serious of a problem is this?  It isn't particularly noticeable when the shoes are on, but I haven't owned as shell with this problem.  Should I return them?  I assume there is no way to fix the splits, which I can accept, but I don't know if this is a sign of other likely future problems.

 

 

That doesn't look good, but there is one thing you can try.  After a round of conditioning, you can apply black paste wax directly to the area and buff to smooth out those splits.  It's not optimal, and there's no guarantee they won't get larger, but its something you can try.  You might need to do a few thin layers.  The shoe care thread is a great resource to go more in depth with restoring shoes and covering scuffs.

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I would return. The splits will likely spread.

 

That's what I'm leaning towards.  I'll spin the wheel again and have them ship out another pair.

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Originally Posted by BCer View Post

I have some fit issues with Daltons too.  I wear 11.5D Strands which fit absolutely like gloves.  McTavish's just squeezed the crap out of my feet, so had to exchange for 11.5E, and for the most part they are very good - slight bit of heel slip in the natural tan pair, but the grey ones I got on the screaming sale price I've worn more, so with the sole flexing now, the heel slip is gone. Now that our weather up here in the great white north is warming up, I'll get the non-butyl sole tan ones out, and with some more wear, hopefully the heel slip will disappear on those too.  Back to the Daltons...12D in those.  Fit length wise seems perfect, and width across the ball of my foot is a smidge tight.  However I have the dreaded HEEL SLIP too!  Again, I've only worn them maybe 6 times, so when the heavy sole softens up and starts bending more, I'm hoping the heel slip goes away too.  When the sole doesn't bend, in order for a normal walking stride, I figure the heel has to lift...make sense?  I almost have to choke my foot circulation off with tight lacing to eliminate any heel slip right now...Anyway, the Daltons definitely had to be 12's..11.5D's in Strands, 11.5E's in McTavish's and 12D in Dalton.  Not sure if that helps any!?

Wait, you sized up in the McTavish? I've never heard of anyone doing that before. I went an entire half size down.

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When I called AE to ask about sizing for Dalton's they told me to size up 1/2. Like you guys, I wear 11.5d in 5 last (Jeffersons) so I have a 12d pair in chocolate coming whenever they are shipped.
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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post

 

They are good looking shoes.  Hope you enjoy them!

I hope so :)

 

Does anyone have any recommendations for a matching belt to wear with the snuff players?

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I hope so :)

 

Does anyone have any recommendations for a matching belt to wear with the snuff players?

 

AE has a matching belt: http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF97642_1_40000000001_-1.  I picked one up from 6pm.com for a bit less than the retail price on AE's website.  It is a pretty good belt--quite substantial in construction.

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I was in the Phoenx A&E store yesterday and was pleased to discover that they have a small quantity of the Boston single monk in brown calf. They have limited sizes and I know the Boston wasn't a very widely distributed shoe so if someone is interested you might want to move on it. Tom Kroepel, the manager there sent me an email with sizes and amount of burnishing on the shoes. Here's what they have:


2 pairs of 8 D: dovetail heels with light burnishing on the toe
 
1 pair of 8 ½ D: dovetail heel with a burnished toe
 
2 pairs of 9 D: dovetail heel with no burnishing on the toe
 
1 pair of 9 ½ D: rubber toplift with no burnishing
 
2 pairs of 10 D: dovetail heel with burnished toe
 
1 pair of 10 1/2 D: dovetail heel with no burnishing
 
1 pair of 11 D: dovetail heel with burnished toe

Great looking shoe and if I wasn't already monk heavy I'd probably pick up a pair.
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those chilli daltons look tempting.  does chilli, vary enough from walnut to warrant owning both?

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Black calf and brown grain Broadstreets, possibly amongst the least spectacular of all Spectators.....

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 Hi

 

First time poster!  First I wanted to say thanks for all the helpful information contained in the 1278 pages.  Its been very helpful in care and sizing of my new shoe hobby or addiction depending how you look at it.

 

How I got here?  I am in my mid 40's and for some reason my feet have grown about a half size.  The doctor says my arches haven't fallen but no reason for the now larger feet.  I had a pretty nice selection of older Johnston and Murphy Signature shoes and some chukkas.  They no longer fit and I had to buy new shoes.  The first pair of nice shoes I bought were some Wolverine 1000 mile Courtlands - beautiful leather on these.  I found the style forum Wolverine page and read and read.  Then I found some reference to Allen Edmonds and started reading.  I liked the concept of American made and shoes that I could get recreafted so I bought a few - The Elgin great looking shoe.  The leather sole is hard to get used to since i hadn't really worn leather soles in a long time.  I needed some new dress shoes and bought the Bradley, super comfortable right out of the box.  I bought the Katmai because I liked the look, some tread and would probably last forever.

 

Not sure my picture (crappy Blackberry shot) will post as I am new, but will give it a try.  Here's my up and coming collection.  Now what's next :)  Again thanks and look forward to joining the conversations.

 

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So the question was, "is the AE brown shell different from the dark brown shell?"  I know because I asked the question.  I HAVE THE ANSWER!  The answer is yes.  The brown is more olive and the dark brown is a stronger brown with a hint of red (I think).  The strands are brown and the dundees are dark brown.

 

 

AppleMark

 

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