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post #18316 of 46522
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Originally Posted by patrick_b View Post

 

It's the most commonly died color but is a tan color when they cut the shells out of the hide. After additional tanning which adds oils, waxes, etc. it's a dark brown. There are a few youtube videos showing the process at Horween.

 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He7EpbyzfPE

 

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Originally Posted by TheSizzle View Post

 

I don't know if this is the best representation of its natural color, but since I expected it to be close to the color of horse hide, I think this chart gives a reasonable, if slightly over-exposed, estimate of common shell colors.

 

 

Wow...thanks a lot you two.  This thread is so informative.  Even if I didnt like AE shoes, this thread is a great place to learn about shoe style and the manufacturing process.

post #18317 of 46522
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Originally Posted by mexicutioner View Post

does that dude have asperger's or something? something about his attempt at trolling just seems off, in a "and now, i will engage in what the humans affectionately refer to as 'having fun!'" sort of way. maybe his account got hacked by someone who doesn't speak english normally? confused.gif

 

really???

 

so, in your opinion, the implication being that the poster's English is abnormal and going by your guess as to what he was thinking that he is non-human or sub-human, therefore he must "have asperger's or something". do you seriously believe that people with autism aren't human? either your logic is severely skewed or perhaps, you are just a small-minded, ignorant, hateful person?

 

your profile states "lawyerin' " is what you do for a living. I could use all sorts of clichés--some of them well-deserved, but many of them compleatly wrong--to make guesses about you, but to do so would not be right. however, I can make an educated guess based on your words: you are an asshole

post #18318 of 46522
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Originally Posted by Flyswatter View Post


Well unfortunately, I didn't have much better like with my second attempt at finding a pair of black Park Avenues that don't gape. I received a pair of seconds today from the Jville outlet, and while the gaping isn't quite as bad as on the pair on I posted pics of (even that gaping was relatively minor compared to some pics I've seen, though), it's still enough to cause me to send these back. Once again though, the gaping is only on the right shoe. Rather odd and frustrating. I still have the first quality PAs with gaping that I posted about earlier, but as I don't live near an AE store, figured I'd try my luck with seconds again, and if they worked-out, just get my money back for the firsts.

I think New Shoes1 might be onto something with his suggestion that gaping is much more common on Park Avenues and/or black calf Park Avenues. I would have assumed that Fifth Avenues would be prone to gaping at exactly the same rate since it's essentially the same shoe, just with perforations on the toe cap. But I'm 1/1 in scoring Fifth Aves with no gaping, and 0/2 with Park Aves. Then again, maybe it's the brown vs. black leather. I definitely notice a difference in the look and feel of the brown vs. black calf in terms of softness and texture.

If the gaping is indeed more common on the Park Aves and not so much on the Fifth Aves, should I give up on the black Park Aves and just go for a pair of Fifth Aves? Obviously in attempting to acquire black Park Avenues, I'm looking for a strictly formal and conservative shoe that can be worn when the occasion calls for such attire (job interview, funeral, etc.). Would the Fifth Avenue work just as well in those occasions, or does the addition of the perforations along the toe cap really bring down the formality of the shoe? Thoughts?

It seems my post went unnoticed amidst the haze of the unnecessary stir-up created by foo. baldy[1].gif Any more thoughts on the gaping issue, particularly in regard to Park vs Fifth Ave and brown vs black calf? Comments on the formality of the perf cap Fifth vs the Park Ave, and the interchangeability of the two?

On on unrelated note, check out this video that was attached to an email reply I received from Monica at the Jville store. I'm sure many here have seen it, but for those who haven't it's worth the watch! Making a pair of Allen Edmonds shoes really is quite the process:

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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post

I really like those socks.  Where are they from?

I wish I could tell you because I don't remember. They've been in my drawer forever. Today was the first time I ever wore them.
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Does anyone out there have outfit/wear pics of the black eagle county with the brick sole? Im really considering a pair but Im starting to have doubts about the wedge sole shape and color. A friend remarked they "looked ready for a german industrial club/berghain"

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would the bourbon colored Strands go well with a navy suit (for work)?  I tried on the walnut Strands today at Nordstrom, and they may be to light/bright for business attire.  I've only seen pictures online of the bourbon colored Strands, but they look a little more work appropriate (business formal attire).  I know black shoes are the most formal, but I was looking for a brown pair that would work well.

 

Thanks!

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I am having some issues with the kenilworths. I purchased a pair of factory seconds That were great, except for that the left foot bed felt as if there was a hard lump, or ridge under the ball of my foot. I spoke with the sale representative, who advised me to wear the shoe for a week to see if the cork molded to my foot. About a week passed, but there was no change and the shoe was still extremely uncomfortable.The store was great, and took back the worn shoes and sent a new pair of factory seconds. The second pair arrived a few days ago, but unfortunately the leather was visibly cracked increased. Even more troubling, This pair also had a hard lump in the foot bed, but in the right shoe.

 

So I am at a loss. Should I request that the store take the second pair of shoes back? Or should I talk to corporate customer service and request that they send a pair of factory seconds, maybe out of a different batch? Or just get a totally different pair of shoes? I am disappointed because I really like the look of the Kenilworths. Any advice would be appreciated.

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I've had these forever, but recently started wearing them on the reg. Can I get some maintenance help. I own venetian shoe cream, but I probably need to get the AE walnut polish as well, right? Anytime I do conditioning, am I supposed to remove the polish on top the shoes came coated with? Then use Venetian, let dry, then polish and buff?
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Some pics I said I was going to post and some other ones relevant to discussion these past weeks.

Quinton after recraft due to my heel stack coming apart
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Burgundy Shell Kenwoods I picked up on the 'bay with no cleaning or brushing
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Kenwoods after some brushing and venetian shoe cream
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Saphir Cordovan Colored Cordovan Polish
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Off topic. Card wallet carrier myself and since there were some earlier
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Good Flock Waxed Cotton Card Holder, Coach money clip, Saddleback card holder for my Metrocard

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Here they are!  What nobody seems to talk about is the grey is actually a clouded grey.  That really put me off of them, to be honest.  Up close they look like a complete mess.  They are a knock-out from about 3 feet away though.  Also, I can't figure out if it's a defect, but the Dalton is not a symmetrical design.  Everything is off-set a bit from center.

 

I apologize for the quality, these were taken with my 3DS.  I've taken shots from several angles including one in front of the black AE bag so one could see how not-black they are.

 

 

The Goods (Click to show)

 

 

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Apparently I'm too new to post such a significant post without it getting approved by the mods.  A handful of pics of the Grey Daltons will be up as soon as the post is deemed "not-spam."


Edited by Mike Lucas - 4/3/13 at 10:27pm
post #18327 of 46522
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Originally Posted by CalTex View Post

What color is the edge of the Strand?

I bought brown Saphir edge dressing but I don't think it matches up. I would prefer to stick with Saphir products, I'm a little OCD like that. shog[1].gif

I'm a little late to the party, but I was in the AE store in OC last week. I was looking to buy sole dressing but they were out of the 'natural' one that's supposed to be used on the Strand, and recommended that I'd get 'Chili' but not let it dry completely and wipe it slightly with a paper towel.

post #18328 of 46522
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Originally Posted by swetooth9 View Post

would the bourbon colored Strands go well with a navy suit (for work)?  I tried on the walnut Strands today at Nordstrom, and they may be to light/bright for business attire.  I've only seen pictures online of the bourbon colored Strands, but they look a little more work appropriate (business formal attire).  I know black shoes are the most formal, but I was looking for a brown pair that would work well.

 

Thanks!

I own a pair of Bourbon Amsterdam McCallisters, and I feel they look great with Navy Blue. Get some fun socks. I also think you can wear your Walnut with Navy Blue. I have done both with success.

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Well I tried to reply late last night and lost everything at the end, so just going to break it up for now.

 

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Originally Posted by Winston S. View Post

Does anyone else have any input on this? I don't have any Alden shoes yet or even Barrie lasted, but I always under the impression that Barrie lasted shoes were wide. In my experience, 7 lasted shoes are narrow and I feel they are even more narrow than their 5 last counterparts.

I only have one shoe a chukka on the Barrie and there are others on this thread that have a lot more experience with it than I. But I went down a half size from my normal TTS in AE. I am a 10D on the #1 and #5 last and a 9.5D in the Alden Chukka on the Barrie fits similar to my Dundee's on the #1 last. The Barrie is wide in the heel and I have a fair amount of heel slip but it is acceptable. Some of the more experienced people say the preferred sizing on the Barrie is to actually go down a width ie: from a D to a C but stay TTS. But there aren't a lot of Alden offerings in C width. Also this all applies to shoes and chukkas with boots they are tighter in the front because of how they are lasted and staying TTS is better for most people. There is a reason people on the Alden thread say they have a fear of lasts. 

 

I do not have a 7 last yet but the MacNeil is one of the last shoes I want to pick up so will know eventually how that fits in comparison. I feel the 5 last fits me best of all the AE lasts so far, and the 8 (Clifton) does not fit me at all no matter what combination I try.

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Originally Posted by Winston S. View Post

Some pics I said I was going to post and some other ones relevant to discussion these past weeks.

Quinton after recraft due to my heel stack coming apart
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)











Burgundy Shell Kenwoods I picked up on the 'bay with no cleaning or brushing
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
















Kenwoods after some brushing and venetian shoe cream
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Saphir Cordovan Colored Cordovan Polish
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Off topic. Card wallet carrier myself and since there were some earlier
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Good Flock Waxed Cotton Card Holder, Coach money clip, Saddleback card holder for my Metrocard

Very Nice! :-)

post #18330 of 46522
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Originally Posted by patrick_b View Post

Cold Iron,

How did you get down to the shell, Renomat?

 

My burgundy shell macneil's have never really shined up as much as I thought they should. I've only used renovateur on them and done that infrequently. They have a dry-like feel to the vamp, where the shoes naturally crease (roll). I always thought they were just dry but now you've got me thinking if there is just a buildup of polish from the factory. I've never applied any wax to that part of the shoe. Note, my shell leeds feel very similar but my Alden shell shoes/boots never had the same feel.

 

I wonder if I should try a Renomat treatment, followed by Renovateur to see if I could get them more to my liking.

 

Look forward to you thoughts.

I did use Renomat on my oldest pair of shell Leeds for the exact same reason you describe. And need to thank you for introducing me to Renomat over a year ago, and also for mentioning microfiber cloths for final polishing somewhere else recently. I've used nylon stockings for the final buff for years but know by now if you say something it is worth paying attention to. Don't see myself ever going to back to stockings, thank you.

 

I also found the microfiber cloths are the best way to strip the cream off the shell. I use them as rags around the house, I buy the Amazon Basics 48 for $28 or so which is about .50 cents apiece. The other day I thought about how much they absorb and used one instead of an old cotton T-shirt. 

This was with Renoaveutor and my black shell PA but think you would get pretty good results on yours with Renomat. On my Leeds it did lift quite a bit but not as much as new shoes. The T-shirt on the right was used first and thought they were pretty clean. I followed up with the Microfiber cloth after and it actually picked up more on the second pass then the T-shirt did on the first one.

 

I push hard when removing old finish just like the start of a mirror shine starting with Renomat doing a small section at a time. Then move my finger to a clean part of the rag wetting it and doing another section. As soon as the shoe is done repeated the whole process with Renoaveutor. As soon as that is done then I take a fairly wet rag and wipe the whole thing down which picks up quite a bit more:

 

I repeated the process twice, if you use the microfiber cloth not sure you would need to do it twice. Good luck and hope it helps.

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