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post #18256 of 46978
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

Sizzle:  Foo is pulling your leg.  Check out his posts today in other threads, like the Good Taste thread.  If not, I cannot wait for his fit picture tomorrow wearing his wholecuts with no socks, cropped pants, a bright red pullover and FU jacket.

Ah. Someone caught him. I suspected, as you can see, but had not seen his posts in other threads.

(Although I have to say his Thom Browne references were very suspicious.)

Bravo, Mafoofan! And I mean that sincerely. You've caused a stir while still being polite about it; been a few jerks around here lately.
post #18257 of 46978
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Fashion is global today! I don't really think of style as being "European" or "American." It's more about where you draw your inspiration from. It just happens that--quality-wise--the Italians make the best shoes in the world (Ferragamo, Testoni, Tod's, etc.). Sure, there are a few outliers, like Bally and Hermes, but they are all part of the same Continental school. Budget American brands might be a good value, but they are always a step (or two) behind.
 
 

The idea that inspiration may be drawn from different regions implies that regional variations exist. As to the concept of style being global, I disagree. What may be suitable and acceptable for one region may not be appropriate for all. Would western fashion be absolutely acceptable in Afghanistan? That may be a bit on the extreme side, but both locations fall within the global classification you presented. 

 

As far as quality, I agree that it's a spectrum. However, I don't find the quality of these to be anything short of acceptable. These are well-made shell chukkas, and they apparently work within the style and budget parameters of the individual who posted them.

 

 

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We have to think forwards, not backwards! Like I said, if you are trying to make a statement, then sure, stitches showing and holes and whatever can make sense, but if you are just looking for a good shoe to wear day-to-day, those things should be avoided if possible!
 

I don't think stitching and a good-looking shoe for day-to-day wear are mutually exclusive concepts. While this sort of stitching may not be the best choice for pairing with more formal suits, wearing wholecuts with jeans would not work. There is not oneShoe for every outfit.

 

I'm starting to wonder how much of your posts in this thread today have been of then trolling variety.

post #18258 of 46978
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Originally Posted by TheSizzle View Post

The idea that inspiration may be drawn from different regions implies that regional variations exist. As to the concept of style being global, I disagree. What may be suitable and acceptable for one region may not be appropriate for all. Would western fashion be absolutely acceptable in Afghanistan? That may be a bit on the extreme side, but both locations fall within the global classification you presented.

I recently wore a shemagh over a leather Mao jacket with painted corduroys and vintage motorcycle boots. So, style certainly can be global! You just have to think globally!
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As far as quality, I agree that it's a spectrum. However, I don't find the quality of these to be anything short of acceptable. These are well-made shell chukkas, and they apparently work within the style and budget parameters of the individual who posted them.

I agree, budget matters. I didn't mean to offend anyone by suggesting things that might be financially out of reach! I just thought for discussion's sake I'd introduce some more sophisticated ideas from a broader context.
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There is not oneShoe for every outfit.

Of course not! Every outfit has to craft itself. Michelangelo once said that sculpting was like freeing a predetermined form from the rock imprisoning it. He never quite knew what would reveal itself until he was finished! So, why should fashion be any different? Every day is new and full of possibilities.
post #18259 of 46978
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I recently wore a shemagh over a leather Mao jacket with painted corduroys and vintage motorcycle boots. So, style certainly can be global! You just have to think globally!
I agree, budget matters. I didn't mean to offend anyone by suggesting things that might be financially out of reach! I just thought for discussion's sake I'd introduce some more sophisticated ideas from a broader context.
Of course not! Every outfit has to craft itself. Michelangelo once said that sculpting was like freeing a predetermined form from the rock imprisoning it. He never quite knew what would reveal itself until he was finished! So, why should fashion be any different? Every day is new and full of possibilities.

Mafoofan, I'm not sure what you mean. Can you share some pictures of yourself showing these styles off? It would really help in visualizing them.
post #18260 of 46978
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Mafoofan, I'm not sure what you mean. Can you share some pictures of yourself showing these styles off? It would really help in visualizing them.

I wish I could, but I don't like to steal from myself by photographing my outfits. Each one lives its own life.
post #18261 of 46978
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

I wish I could, but I don't like to steal from myself by photographing my outfits. Each one lives its own life.

Like the abodiginals....respect
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Gentlemen,

 

Are these shells worth my time to restore?  They only need a resoling.  I can make them sparkle with a little elbow grease... and Renomat of course!

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261192014732?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

 

They are my size, and tough to ignore that price point...

post #18263 of 46978
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Originally Posted by TheSizzle View Post

You may have a reputation on this forum, but I'm going to have to respectfully disagree.

What he posted was a very cleanly executed and classic chukka in a great shade of shell cordovan. The stitching is visible, and intentionally so. It's part of the style that carries across many reputable brands of chukkas (Alden and the like). The AE version shown is well formed, off an appropriately curved last. It's a comfortable boot and creates a great blend of aesthetically pleasing, but durable materials.

Now, what you posted is something truly different. While it may not be a women's boot, it has far less masculine shape and is not a perfect substitute for a chukka buyer who has classic American tastes. Yes, they placed the stitching more discretely, and AE is able to do that, but AE's resistance is intentional. Moreover, regardless of price, the boot you posted looks cheap. While both styles are far from unique, the one you posted seems to placed fashion over style and does it poorly.

Before you call me uninformed, I am a fan of well-executed jodhpurs. I just don't think you chose a good representation thereof, and I don't believe they fill the same role as these chukka.

Basically, a chunkier chukka works well in a classic American sense, while the boot you posted works better with an Italian aesthetic. Each is valid, but each is distinct.

This is why I love this forum. We can agree to disagree in a honorable fashion. The Shell Chukkas are something to covet. The black boots are awesome looking too...they just look more "Dieter from Sprockets" than "Nolan from Tampa". That being said they are beautiful, but there's nothing in my closet that would go with the lack boots.
post #18264 of 46978
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

I think they'd look better if they were more sleek and had some more differentiating details. The leather looks kind of blah too. Like, it reminds me of an old, fusty library. I'd definitely go for something black and with more sheen. Also thinner souls would be great. Have you seen the stuff Ferragamo has been doing?

Here's an example:



See how they hide the stitching better? It just looks more high quality that way.

let me guess. if someone posted a picture of a pickup truck, you'd politely interject, noting that said pickup truck would be more to your liking if it had lower profile wheels, a backseat, and if it was a sports car instead of a truck.
post #18265 of 46978
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Originally Posted by Al in Philly View Post

Gentlemen,

 

Are these shells worth my time to restore?  They only need a resoling.  I can make them sparkle with a little elbow grease... and Renomat of course!

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261192014732?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

 

They are my size, and tough to ignore that price point...

 

The uppers could probably be restored to a good looking shoe, as we have all seen miracles performed with shell.  The only thing that would make me scared of them is that the insole looks like it is cracking.  Don't forget that the insole is the true foundation of the shoe, and once it starts to go, you are on borrowed time.

post #18266 of 46978
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Originally Posted by Al in Philly View Post

Gentlemen,

Are these shells worth my time to restore?  They only need a resoling.  I can make them sparkle with a little elbow grease... and Renomat of course!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261192014732?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

They are my size, and tough to ignore that price point...

Definitely a fixer upper. I wouldn't pay more than $50 for them though (inclusive of shipping).
post #18267 of 46978
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Originally Posted by Winston S. View Post


Definitely a fixer upper. I wouldn't pay more than $50 for them though (inclusive of shipping).

I was actually thinking the same price point.

post #18268 of 46978
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Originally Posted by cbtaylor View Post

First wearing of my shell Dundee today



Sweeeeeeet! Congrats and wear with pride.
post #18269 of 46978
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Originally Posted by masernaut View Post

 

This is the best looking Strand shell colour I have ever seen, You're right that it doesn't look anywhere close to brown. Here's a picture of my shell dark brown Patriot and a colour #8 loafer. Your Strands might fit right in between the two.

 

 

 

Sorry for the flipped picture. It's coming straight off my phone. 

I would still wear those Strands :)

I will definitely be wearing my Shell Strands. I wore them today. Love the way the feel, and look. To be honest, I was a bit discouraged by the color when I first saw them, but they have really grown on me today. I do look forward to them fading some and getting a nice patina. It will be a while, but I do love them. 

post #18270 of 46978
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Originally Posted by Al in Philly View Post

Gentlemen,

 

Are these shells worth my time to restore?  They only need a resoling.  I can make them sparkle with a little elbow grease... and Renomat of course!

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261192014732?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

 

They are my size, and tough to ignore that price point...

At that price I could not pass them up if they were my size. I would try, and see what you could do with them. They do have the hammer on the sole, so they have been resoled before. It might be best to send them to AE for recrafting to see how they can bring them back. Maybe do some work on them yourself first. But I definitely think they are worth the price. If you get them and they stink, you haven't lost much...

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