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post #18181 of 47026
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Originally Posted by masernaut View Post

 

Great to hear from you, Paul! If I'm right, this is the first time you've graced us on this thread. Yes, I actually went through the thousand plus pages a while back and have kept up since nod%5B1%5D.gif

 

It's tough to resist working your way through this thread, but you're absolutely right! His previous posts on the forum were in separate threads (interview and a question of the provenance of uppers). I'm glad he finally stopped in, and I hope he does it a lot more often.

post #18182 of 47026
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Originally Posted by TheSizzle View Post

I'm sorry, but are you serious? That's what the last few posts have been. You really should be able to look up a post or two on your own. Once again, I'm not trying to be condescending here, but the thread involves some giving to go along with the taking.

Yes, I saw those. To clarify though, I was trying to find a picture that had BOTH of the colors (walnut and bourbon) taken outside so I could see how they compare.

I saw the person above me - it had only the bourbon taken outside.
I searched google and found images of the two colors side by side, but only in indoor lighting.

So, sorry if my post sounded redundant, but at no point in this thread was the answer to my question solved.

900x900px-LL-dd3e4835_IMG_6666.jpeg - This photo might be taken outside, but I can't tell for sure. It looks more like indoor lighting in someone's bedroom.
post #18183 of 47026
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Originally Posted by zerostyle View Post


Yes, I saw those. To clarify though, I was trying to find a picture that had BOTH of the colors (walnut and bourbon) taken outside so I could see how they compare.

I saw the person above me - it had only the bourbon taken outside.
I searched google and found images of the two colors side by side, but only in indoor lighting.

So, sorry if my post sounded redundant, but at no point in this thread was the answer to my question solved.
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 - This photo might be taken outside, but I can't tell for sure. It looks more like indoor lighting in someone's bedroom.

 

That picture was actually taken inside (my bedroom). It captures the difference between walnut and bourbon, but it doesn't truly capture either as well as the outdoor images above. If you really want an outdoor picture of walnut and bourbon, I can try to snap a picture tomorrow.

 

I hope you didn't take offense, but when I read your post, I thought you just wanted one of the following:

- a picture of bourbon shoes

- a picture of bourbon shoes in outdoor lighting

- a picture of bourbon shoes next to others colors

 

With that assumption, you can see how the question seemed answered.

post #18184 of 47026
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Originally Posted by AllenEdmondsCEO View Post

Great looking STRANDS above, if you don't mind my saying so!!!! Well chosen...

Thanks for the business and support.

Wear them in good health and prosperity!!

Paul

Thanks. I really do love them. I had been waiting the 6-8 weeks, and was pleasantly surprised when they showed up at about 4 1/2. Though I had to rejigger my evening to spend the time to prepare them for wearing today. Thanks for joining us here and chiming in on this forum. I think I speak for all of us when I say we very much appreciate your presence, and all you do for AE.

post #18185 of 47026
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Originally Posted by AdamAdam View Post

Just received my first pair of AE shoes today: walnut calf McAllisters. I won't post a bunch of pictures because you've all seen them a million times. They are "firsts" shipped right from the factory. I have a few questions that maybe you all with more experience can comment on.

1) Have a look at the distinct color variation on the left shoe. There is a noticeable line where the color is a few shades different. Can I fix that with a little polish or is that there forever? Does that make these returnable for some of you? In person it is more noticeable in my opinion than in this picture.






2) When I was measured in the store my right foot came out 8D and my left 8.5D. My left has always been a little larger. We tried the 8.5 and both agreed that it was just big and was slipping too much. He felt that 8D would be perfect and I've been reading that with this last it's normal to go down a half size (in my case 8.5 to 8). There were no 8D in the store at all to try (even in a different style with same last) so they were ordered and shipped. While I was waiting for these to arrive I popped into another AE store and tried on some other styles with the same last (Park Ave). Just for kicks I tried a 7.5D and while the right was perfect, the left was too snug for my liking but this particular clerk thought 7.5 should be my size and that the left would stretch. I'm having the opposite problem with these in 8D; the left is perfect and the right feels ever slightly too big with a tiny bit of slip. So, they always say go up to meet your larger foot. Either way, one is going to fit perfectly well and the other will have some issue. I'd rather have the right be ever so slightly large than the left be too tight. Ultimately my question is, what do others do and if I went with 7.5, should I expect the left one to stretch? I'm afraid to wear them for a few months only to learn that they are not stretching and be stuck with them.

3) I notice some gaping on both shoes near the ankle area. Is this normal? Will it get worse? It doesn't seem to effect the comfort as best I can tell from walking around the carpet in my bedroom for ten minutes.

Thanks!

I suppose getting the larger size is the way to go. Try a heel or tongue pad on the right shoe.

The other option is to return them and use their MTO option. You can pick from several models, pick pretty much any color they offer, but most importantly, you can pick different sizes for the left and right shoes. There is a premium charge for this service.
post #18186 of 47026
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Originally Posted by MarioImpemba View Post

Didn't hurt that they were incentivized with over $100m in our taxpayer monies.

 

Manufacturing within the sales region also hedges against currency fluctuations, in addition to tariffs or similar protectionism.

 

However, there is a small, but growing shift towards corporate insourcing due to a number of factors, including but not limited to, increasing wages abroad and better automation and QC domestically. Also, shorter time-to-market and better holistic designs given centralized development and manufacturing bases.

 

As much as I support the UAW and Ford and GM, I can't fault people for buying foreign based on product offering. Drawing parallels between cars and shoes, the Meermins/Carmina's and Honda/Toyota's of the world help AE/Alden and Ford/GM step-up their game with external factors like products, price, quality, and drive internal efficacy.

 

Competition only serves consumers.

 

It's really interesting to read that there was significant consumer backlash towards Filson and AE because of offshoring. There are very few other brands this would happen to and demonstrates how much of their brand identity is derived from "Made in USA".

 

All things equal (price, design, quality), would you still buy AE's if they weren't made-in-USA, or would you shop elsewhere? (It'd be easier still, if some of the foreign makes were picked up by Zappos or other B&M or E-retailers.)

That $100m is a drop in the bucket compared to the revenue that BMW created in the local region. Many in NC were upset because SC got them by allowing Corp. tax exemption for a few years. You would think NC would have learned by all the manufacturing in the Greenville area already. I was fine with it living in Asheville as Greenville was closer than the NC location they were offering. I picked up some consulting work from them and some of the hundreds of other companies that sprang up to supply them. Every German manager that I talked to said they were amazed at the productivity of the American worker. Then they would defend the German work force but say that because of the German union influence they didn't get near the amount of work from them.

 

I've been burnt hard by lack of support and service by the American Auto Industry over the years and have tried them all. My current vehicle is made in Tn. I may go back one more time and try again and if I do it will be a Ford because they didn't participate in the gov't bail out. But they also burnt me the worst with the POS V6 head leaks and all 3 times while I was deployed overseas and the wife was left back home alone to take care of it. And Ford didn't even acknowledge it was an issue until a class action lawsuit. That is lack of customer service at its worst.

 

Pendleton is also a highly American defined brand, and the shirts are hard to beat, I owned my first one in Washington State more than 30 years ago. And picked up a few more over the years. Henry Fonda wore a Pendleton shirt every day in the movie Sometimes a Great Notion for a reason. In January I was in Old Town Scottsdale in Az. being dragged through the shops and saw a Pendleton store so I dragged her through it as soon as I saw it. And was shocked at how little was made in the US any more, but the prices were still typical Pendleton prices. I'm afraid they are headed the way of Woolrich which is a shadow of its former self, as is the town of Woolrich, Pa. because of it.

 

All things are not equal between AE and other shoe manufactures that I have dealt with. AE customer service is second to none and one of the reasons I am loyal to them. That and they are the only higher end shoe company to work with the military system. I have spent more on other shoes and don't feel they have the same value. In my mind there is no other shoe company to even compare them to, no one else even comes close price or not.

 

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No one even commented on my April's fools day joke attempt? Jeez u guys are too smart.

 

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Originally Posted by AllenEdmondsCEO View Post

Men - Thanks very much for your support of Allen Edmonds. Just to clear things up as April Fool's Day comes to a close -- this time NO JOKE -- we are exporting our USA production shoes FROM Wisconsin TO Shanghai. It's the Authentic American Styling and Production that our Chinese partners are looking for. They love our "Since 1922" heritage as well as the relationship we've had with famous Americans, such as the Presidents, as well as American leaders in all walks of life. There is no desire on our part to produce shoes in China for ANY market -- there or here -- and no desire on their part to sell local production under our banner.

Good joke, though. It made its way through to me in pretty fast time after one of our lurking store managers discovered it (pre-joke acknowledgement).

Thanks again for all the support of AE we receive from StyleForum members!

Best wishes,
Paul

I do believe you got a comment... :-)

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Originally Posted by GOP Shoe Guy View Post

 

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So today my new AE Shell Cordovan Shell Strands arrived. The AE website calls these Brown. Item number 1645. The website pic is shown below. 

Here is a pic of the shoes prior to any care or attention, straight out of the box. 

 

AppleMark

 

So i used Venetian Creme on them, and was amazed at the color that came off of the shoe onto the white cloth I was using. I then horse hair brushed them, and buffed them with a clean flannel cloth. I then used melatonin cleaner and conditioner. Horse hair brushed them, and buffed with the flannel cloth. Then I did the Mac Method, wiping them down with a damp rag, allowing them to dry, and horse hair brushing the you know what out of them. Then buffed with the flannel cloth. I then applied a think coat of brown polish. I used dabs of water and buffed the polish off with small curls, as I do every time I polish my shoes. Then buffed them once again with the flannel cloth.

 

AppleMark

 

 

 

AppleMark

I am very happy with the finished product, but am a bit disappointed in the color. They almost have a merlot/burgundy color to them. When ordering brown, I figured they would in fact be brown. They are more of a brownish burgundy. So, I am hopeful over time they will fade and get a nice brown patina. Does anyone have any experience with this pair in this color? And what do you think of these and their color?

My shell Strands are walnut so I don't have that same exact color Strand. But I do have brown shell Patriot and Dundee which are no where near that color. Personally I like the color of your Stands, a lot. You can always exchange them if you are not happy with the color and should if it bothers you. But I'd think hard about it as those are the most unique color I think I have ever seen. Shell is not ever exact and the use of aniline dyes allows the shell color to come through. Good looking shoe IMO.

post #18187 of 47026
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Originally Posted by AllenEdmondsCEO View Post

Men - Thanks very much for your support of Allen Edmonds. Just to clear things up as April Fool's Day comes to a close -- this time NO JOKE -- we are exporting our USA production shoes FROM Wisconsin TO Shanghai. It's the Authentic American Styling and Production that our Chinese partners are looking for. They love our "Since 1922" heritage as well as the relationship we've had with famous Americans, such as the Presidents, as well as American leaders in all walks of life. There is no desire on our part to produce shoes in China for ANY market -- there or here -- and no desire on their part to sell local production under our banner.

Good joke, though. It made its way through to me in pretty fast time after one of our lurking store managers discovered it (pre-joke acknowledgement).

Thanks again for all the support of AE we receive from StyleForum members!

Best wishes,
Paul

 

Awesome to hear, thanks for posting

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Originally Posted by hohneokc View Post

Here are some AE Bourbon photos I have.

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Originally Posted by TheSizzle View Post

I know I replied earlier saying you should search for images, but here are a couple I previously posted (starting with the bourbon McAllister and a few of the bourbon Strand in different lighting)...

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Originally Posted by kentyman View Post

Hah. A few of the first dozen photos are of mine. Here're the links for more pics:

Thanks for the help, gentlemen.
post #18189 of 47026
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Originally Posted by msulinski View Post


I suppose getting the larger size is the way to go. Try a heel or tongue pad on the right shoe.

The other option is to return them and use their MTO option. You can pick from several models, pick pretty much any color they offer, but most importantly, you can pick different sizes for the left and right shoes. There is a premium charge for this service.

 

Thanks for the response. I was aware of the MTO option but like you said that is expensive. Any thoughts from you (or anyone else) on the discoloration?

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Originally Posted by calidist View Post

Probably 1 and 7, though the Barrie is a very unique last.

I'll have to explore the 7-last ... I've already got a pair of Leeds and have found it to be more narrow and longer heel to arch than my 975 ( 8.5D 1-last vs 8D Barrie).
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AppleMark

 

AppleMark

I am very happy with the finished product, but am a bit disappointed in the color. They almost have a merlot/burgundy color to them. When ordering brown, I figured they would in fact be brown. They are more of a brownish burgundy. So, I am hopeful over time they will fade and get a nice brown patina. Does anyone have any experience with this pair in this color? And what do you think of these and their color?

 

This is the best looking Strand shell colour I have ever seen, You're right that it doesn't look anywhere close to brown. Here's a picture of my shell dark brown Patriot and a colour #8 loafer. Your Strands might fit right in between the two.

 

 

 

Sorry for the flipped picture. It's coming straight off my phone. 

I would still wear those Strands :)

post #18192 of 47026
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Originally Posted by AdamAdam View Post

 

Thanks for the response. I was aware of the MTO option but like you said that is expensive. Any thoughts from you (or anyone else) on the discoloration?

 

I don't think it will probably ever go away, but I would expect it lessen over time as the shoe wears.  Additionally, from the photo I would think it would be hard for anyone ever to notice the difference from eye to foot distance, so I would probably just keep them but they are your shoes.  If you don't like it, exchange them.  

 

I also wanted to recommend that you not go with the smaller size and hope they will stretch.  I have the same problem as you where my left foot is good at a 10D in the 5 last, but my right is a 10 1/4D.  I tried the 10D's per the sales guys suggestion that they would "loosen up", but after many wearings, various stretchings by a cobbler and the bank, they just were never comfortable and I couldn't wear them all day long due to pressure on the top of my toes and rubbing on my pinky.  As a testament to AE customer service, they allowed me to exchange them worn for 10.5D and I am much happier.  They don't have a glove-like feel, but my feet are much more comfortable and I will wear the shoes more because of it.

post #18193 of 47026
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Originally Posted by AllenEdmondsCEO View Post

Men - Thanks very much for your support of Allen Edmonds. Just to clear things up as April Fool's Day comes to a close -- this time NO JOKE -- we are exporting our USA production shoes FROM Wisconsin TO Shanghai. It's the Authentic American Styling and Production that our Chinese partners are looking for. They love our "Since 1922" heritage as well as the relationship we've had with famous Americans, such as the Presidents, as well as American leaders in all walks of life. There is no desire on our part to produce shoes in China for ANY market -- there or here -- and no desire on their part to sell local production under our banner.

Good joke, though. It made its way through to me in pretty fast time after one of our lurking store managers discovered it (pre-joke acknowledgement).

Thanks again for all the support of AE we receive from StyleForum members!

Best wishes,
Paul

 

 

Whew, that is a relief!

 

 

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Originally Posted by kentyman View Post

 

Thanks for chiming in, Paul. I know you're very busy, but it's nice to see you "walking" amongst the commoners. Please feel free to check in with us from time to time!

 

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Originally Posted by TheSizzle View Post

 

It's tough to resist working your way through this thread, but you're absolutely right! His previous posts on the forum were in separate threads (interview and a question of the provenance of uppers). I'm glad he finally stopped in, and I hope he does it a lot more often.

 

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Originally Posted by GOP Shoe Guy View Post

Thanks. I really do love them. I had been waiting the 6-8 weeks, and was pleasantly surprised when they showed up at about 4 1/2. Though I had to rejigger my evening to spend the time to prepare them for wearing today. Thanks for joining us here and chiming in on this forum. I think I speak for all of us when I say we very much appreciate your presence, and all you do for AE.

 

Just wanted to affirm my appreciation for chiming in as well!  We would all enjoy hearing from you from time to time if you can fit us into your crazy schedule! 

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Originally Posted by coolarrow View Post

Thanks. Now, FIX THE BOWING/GAPING PROBLEM.

 

That's uncalled for and inappropriate.  I cannot believe you would speak to anyone in this manner, let alone the CEO of a company who came here as a guest to clear up a misconception.

post #18195 of 47026
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

 

That's uncalled for and inappropriate.  I cannot believe you would speak to anyone in this manner, let alone the CEO of a company who came here as a guest to clear up a misconception.

 

Agree.  Especially since the issue seems to be caused by not fitting the wearer rather than being an actual defect with the shoe, at least from anecdotal evidence that people are buying the shoes with the bowing problem being present from the beginning.  Not all lasts fit all types of feet. 

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