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post #17611 of 49967
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Originally Posted by MacktasticGDogg View Post

So my Web Gem Neumoks arrived today. I ordered a pair in all-football leather and asked the SA to see if the v-tread combination sole could be put on them. He wasn't sure but said he'll request them for me. I wasn't really expecting it to be done, but the arrival today confirmed that he had indeed came through for me on the combination sole. Pretty cool!

I ordered half a size down from my normal AE size of 9D at the recommendation of others in this thread and also from trying regular Neumoks at the store. The regular Neumok at 8.5D seemed very slightly tight width-wise but seemed to fit OK otherwise, and I read that the football leather ones fit slightly larger, so half size down seemed to be the way to go. Now that the shoes are on my feet, 8.5D appears to be the correct call. The "V" is probably a bit further apart than ideal when laced, but the shoe feels like a good fit, and should improve with some breaking in as the football leather is relatively stiff. I'm pleased with how it came out, especially since it only cost $164 with the Soles4Souls donation.

On to a few pics:



 

Those look good!

post #17612 of 49967
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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post

 

 

I think what rubs me the wrong way about both of these cases is that AE really shouldn't consider themselves to be in a position to decide that something is "just cosmetic" and then simply send it back to the customer as an acceptable repair.  I don't see this as any different than taking your car to a mechanic, and then picking it up with a massive dent or scratch in it, and then when you point it out they say "oh, that's just cosmetic."  baldy%5B1%5D.gif

 

I get that there is a risk that is being taken on by both the customer and AE through the recrafting process.  If unrepairable damage is done to the shoe during recrafting, someone has to suffer the consequences.  There are really two options as far as who bears the burden of risk:

 

AE has to be extremely careful not to damage the shoe, and if they do then they need to repeat the repair or replace the shoe. 

 

OR

 

The customer just has to be understanding that something may happen to the shoe and they will wear it anyway when the get it back. 

 

I think it really has to be handled on a case by case basis though.  I think frogwash's shoes should be replaced by AE at no charge.  That may just be cosemetic, but it will never go away.  You will be looking at that sanded off leather for the life of the shoe over the next decade or two.  I think Swiper's shoes should have been redone by AE before they even sent them back.  That said, you have to pick your poison on sending them back or living with it.  I agree that it will most likely not cause any structural problems, as long as most of the stitching is intact.  If you send them back to be redone, then you are effectively "burning" one of your recraftings since they can only be expected to undergo 4-5 recraftings before they are done for, because every time the welt is replaced the integrity of the leather upper becomes weaker. 

 

I agree.

 

Why would damage considered to be "just cosmetic" be passed on? That's 90% of the reason why we are buying AE shoes in the first place - great looking shoes that are built to last. Cosmetic damange to the shoe is more than enough reason to have the shoe replaced.

post #17613 of 49967
I have finally solved the Park Avenue bowing issue. This is a great day. I bought the Brooks Brothers Park Avenues.. and no more bowing issue. Shoes fit very well.
post #17614 of 49967
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Originally Posted by MacktasticGDogg View Post

So my Web Gem Neumoks arrived today. I ordered a pair in all-football leather and asked the SA to see if the v-tread combination sole could be put on them. He wasn't sure but said he'll request them for me. I wasn't really expecting it to be done, but the arrival today confirmed that he had indeed came through for me on the combination sole. Pretty cool!

I ordered half a size down from my normal AE size of 9D at the recommendation of others in this thread and also from trying regular Neumoks at the store. The regular Neumok at 8.5D seemed very slightly tight width-wise but seemed to fit OK otherwise, and I read that the football leather ones fit slightly larger, so half size down seemed to be the way to go. Now that the shoes are on my feet, 8.5D appears to be the correct call. The "V" is probably a bit further apart than ideal when laced, but the shoe feels like a good fit, and should improve with some breaking in as the football leather is relatively stiff. I'm pleased with how it came out, especially since it only cost $164 with the Soles4Souls donation.

On to a few pics:



I wish I would've thought to ask them to add the V-tread soles to mine.  Nice.

post #17615 of 49967
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Originally Posted by bucksfan View Post

 

Don't have the "dark" brown shell Dundees, but I do have the brown shell Strands.  think it's the same material - AE just doesn't use the word "dark" in their Strand description.  That said, there will be variances from one piece of brown shell to another.  My Strands are pretty dark, slightly darker than the brown shell that C&J uses in their Marlow line of shoes.  

 

See below: brown shell Strand, Marlow wingtip, marlow PTB, Marlow Tassel.  First, no flash, then with flash.  Then, Strand in direct sunlight (pretty similar to how it looks on the foot IRL) and in fluorescent light.  

 

 

Great Pictures! (Click to show)

 

 

700 700 700 700

 

 

 

I'm starting to think that is the case. If you look at different shell shoes and description on AE site some will even say dark burgundy and others burgundy. Pretty sure there is only once color burgundy though.

 

I purchased the Patriot in brown shell in part to find out. After seeing MacktasticGDogg brown Patriots I was starting to think there was a difference, and his were the exact color I wanted. Great pictures and comparison too on his part here. But when I got mine they were basically the same as the dark brown Dundee's. I say were because they had so much brown cream on them. Still cleaning it off but now they are close to his in color which is what I wanted. You can see how dark they were to begin with by the original color I left where you used to put the penny in the strap once upon a time.

 

They now are very close to my 744's which are made with Horween No. 449, in the center are C&J for RL Marlows (Thanks to someone on here :-) Dark brown Dundee on left end and walnut Dalton on right end. 

 

A better comparison in full sun shows that the brown or cigar color is lighter than dark brown Dundee's. The 744 and C&J are almost identical and now the Patriot is closer to those in color. However it was identical to the dark brown Dundee when I received it.

 

 

So it will really depend and they are all close in color. Each piece of shell has variations, how much cream was put on at the factory, etc. And with exposure to sunlight they change color anyhow. Over time I expect to see them converge to pretty much a similar brown. But hoping that will be many years down the road yet.

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Originally Posted by MacktasticGDogg View Post

So my Web Gem Neumoks arrived today. I ordered a pair in all-football leather and asked the SA to see if the v-tread combination sole could be put on them. He wasn't sure but said he'll request them for me. I wasn't really expecting it to be done, but the arrival today confirmed that he had indeed came through for me on the combination sole. Pretty cool!

I ordered half a size down from my normal AE size of 9D at the recommendation of others in this thread and also from trying regular Neumoks at the store. The regular Neumok at 8.5D seemed very slightly tight width-wise but seemed to fit OK otherwise, and I read that the football leather ones fit slightly larger, so half size down seemed to be the way to go. Now that the shoes are on my feet, 8.5D appears to be the correct call. The "V" is probably a bit further apart than ideal when laced, but the shoe feels like a good fit, and should improve with some breaking in as the football leather is relatively stiff. I'm pleased with how it came out, especially since it only cost $164 with the Soles4Souls donation.

On to a few pics:



 

These are fantastic!

post #17617 of 49967
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacktasticGDogg View Post

So my Web Gem Neumoks arrived today. I ordered a pair in all-football leather and asked the SA to see if the v-tread combination sole could be put on them. He wasn't sure but said he'll request them for me. I wasn't really expecting it to be done, but the arrival today confirmed that he had indeed came through for me on the combination sole. Pretty cool!

I ordered half a size down from my normal AE size of 9D at the recommendation of others in this thread and also from trying regular Neumoks at the store. The regular Neumok at 8.5D seemed very slightly tight width-wise but seemed to fit OK otherwise, and I read that the football leather ones fit slightly larger, so half size down seemed to be the way to go. Now that the shoes are on my feet, 8.5D appears to be the correct call. The "V" is probably a bit further apart than ideal when laced, but the shoe feels like a good fit, and should improve with some breaking in as the football leather is relatively stiff. I'm pleased with how it came out, especially since it only cost $164 with the Soles4Souls donation.

On to a few pics:




Those look awesome, exactly what I was going to order. I would have pulled the trigger for $164 as $199 was still a great deal. I bought an Omega Seamaster recently so I have to wait a while on new purchases. Nice snag for you my friend! nod[1].gif
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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post

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Originally Posted by MacktasticGDogg View Post

So my Web Gem Neumoks arrived today. I ordered a pair in all-football leather and asked the SA to see if the v-tread combination sole could be put on them. He wasn't sure but said he'll request them for me. I wasn't really expecting it to be done, but the arrival today confirmed that he had indeed came through for me on the combination sole. Pretty cool!


I ordered half a size down from my normal AE size of 9D at the recommendation of others in this thread and also from trying regular Neumoks at the store. The regular Neumok at 8.5D seemed very slightly tight width-wise but seemed to fit OK otherwise, and I read that the football leather ones fit slightly larger, so half size down seemed to be the way to go. Now that the shoes are on my feet, 8.5D appears to be the correct call. The "V" is probably a bit further apart than ideal when laced, but the shoe feels like a good fit, and should improve with some breaking in as the football leather is relatively stiff. I'm pleased with how it came out, especially since it only cost $164 with the Soles4Souls donation.


On to a few pics:







Those look good!

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Originally Posted by delmar View Post

I wish I would've thought to ask them to add the V-tread soles to mine.  Nice.

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Originally Posted by scatterbrain View Post

These are fantastic!

Thanks guys!
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Originally Posted by tesuquegolfer View Post

Those look awesome, exactly what I was going to order. I would have pulled the trigger for $164 as $199 was still a great deal. I bought an Omega Seamaster recently so I have to wait a while on new purchases. Nice snag for you my friend! nod[1].gif

Thanks. I think you'll get by just fine with the Seamaster. It's a very nice watch!
post #17619 of 49967
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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post

 

 

I think what rubs me the wrong way about both of these cases is that AE really shouldn't consider themselves to be in a position to decide that something is "just cosmetic" and then simply send it back to the customer as an acceptable repair.  I don't see this as any different than taking your car to a mechanic, and then picking it up with a massive dent or scratch in it, and then when you point it out they say "oh, that's just cosmetic."  baldy%5B1%5D.gif

 

I get that there is a risk that is being taken on by both the customer and AE through the recrafting process.  If unrepairable damage is done to the shoe during recrafting, someone has to suffer the consequences.  There are really two options as far as who bears the burden of risk:

 

AE has to be extremely careful not to damage the shoe, and if they do then they need to repeat the repair or replace the shoe. 

 

OR

 

The customer just has to be understanding that something may happen to the shoe and they will wear it anyway when they get it back. 

 

I think it really has to be handled on a case by case basis though.  I think frogwash's shoes should be replaced by AE at no charge.  That may just be cosemetic, but it will never go away.  You will be looking at that sanded off leather for the life of the shoe over the next decade or two.  I think Swiper's shoes should have been redone by AE before they even sent them back.  That said, you have to pick your poison on sending them back or living with it.  I agree that it will most likely not cause any structural problems, as long as most of the stitching is intact.  If you send them back to be redone, then you are effectively "burning" one of your recraftings since they can only be expected to undergo 4-5 recraftings before they are done for, because every time the welt is replaced the integrity of the leather upper becomes weaker. 

 

I just wanted to let everyone know that my issue is being addressed and AE has gone above and beyond to make everything right. While errors were made and things happened that shouldn't have, they genuinely do care abut the customers and all is well again. I'll be happily adding to AE collection for many years to come!  smile.gif

post #17620 of 49967

Just spoke with AE customer service about something else, but the lady mentioned that the next webgem will be a "custom MLB shoe."

post #17621 of 49967

^ so more shit

post #17622 of 49967
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Originally Posted by polojock615 View Post

Just spoke with AE customer service about something else, but the lady mentioned that the next webgem will be a "custom MLB shoe."

That's a dissapointment for me
post #17623 of 49967
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacktasticGDogg View Post

So my Web Gem Neumoks arrived today. I ordered a pair in all-football leather and asked the SA to see if the v-tread combination sole could be put on them. He wasn't sure but said he'll request them for me. I wasn't really expecting it to be done, but the arrival today confirmed that he had indeed came through for me on the combination sole. Pretty cool!

I ordered half a size down from my normal AE size of 9D at the recommendation of others in this thread and also from trying regular Neumoks at the store. The regular Neumok at 8.5D seemed very slightly tight width-wise but seemed to fit OK otherwise, and I read that the football leather ones fit slightly larger, so half size down seemed to be the way to go. Now that the shoes are on my feet, 8.5D appears to be the correct call. The "V" is probably a bit further apart than ideal when laced, but the shoe feels like a good fit, and should improve with some breaking in as the football leather is relatively stiff. I'm pleased with how it came out, especially since it only cost $164 with the Soles4Souls donation.

On to a few pics:



 

I've been having all my re-crafts done with the v-tread tap sole lately.  Good call!

post #17624 of 49967
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Originally Posted by Buddy0329 View Post

Do these shoes do anything for you? I have to admit that I am somewhat infatuated with them. Part of it is that they are Strands, amongst my favorite AE's. The other part is that they are suede; I recently was trying to scratch the suede itch for the first time. I popped that cherry when I found the chocolate suede Player's in my size.

I have other needs; Bourbon Strands come to mind as do chocolate Dalton's.

I have no idea what I would wear them with. They feel like a novelty, but the infatuation is there nonetheless. Perhaps it is the get 'em now or never aspect to them.




I love my Bourbon strands. You definitely need them. I sprung for the matching belt.
post #17625 of 49967
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Originally Posted by cdmcallister View Post

I'm due to receive my Bourbon Strands today (almost took the day off) from FedEx. This will be my first pair of new AE shoes and I can't wait to slip them on tonight when I get home.

I did take the day off for mine and they put walnut in the box !
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