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great looking shoes. they look narrow.

They do look narrow on him, but I can't pinpoint what exactly it is. He does have a gap between the laces, but the gap does not seem as big as other examples that we've seen on this thread. What are some other tell-tale factors?

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Arghhhh!!! I hope this is not the only Webgem for this month. Maybe cappuccino will not be a Webgem, but just a New Arrival?

 

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I hope that comes true, I had my hopes up.  Otherwise, I am going to order brown shell Dundee

The current Webgem says order by 3/3 so I am hoping (with fingers crossed) that there is still hope. There has been a couple of times early on when Webgems started that they have had more than one major Webgem offer at the same time, especially when shell was involved. Would love to see several New Arrivals instead though. Several times the shell Webgems have sold out early due to demand. I was extremely lucky to get my walnut shell strands before they stopped taking orders. And nothing at all wrong with those brown shell Dundees. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

 

Looking forward to Monday... damn that is something you don't hear every day! smile.gif

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Originally Posted by TheSizzle View Post

 

 

 

I was strongly considering/suggesting suede Strands a couple days ago, but this is nowhere near what I was suggesting. I was thinking either a snuff suede or chocolate suede strand with a natural sole/welt and discrete stitching. These look like something Cole Haan would pump out, and I don't say that in a complimentary manner. Maybe some people will like them, but, at first glance, they get no love from me.

 

Agreed. The stitching kills it.

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Originally Posted by RogerP View Post

No idea what model these are, just that they were a custom order that the original customer never claimed (I gather it was a non-standard colour for this model, whatever it is):






Those look like chili grain Lamberts. Very good looking shoe.

Chris
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I just got my first pair of AEs - Brooks Brothers walnut strand. While I understand that, as factory seconds, they will have some cosmetic blemishes, I am concerned about the streaking that appears on the toe cap of each shoe and the cracks in the leather.





Is this the normal type of blemish one should expect from a factory second? Should I try to get a different pair, or just live with it? Would the AE walnut polish work to cover it up at all?

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by TheSizzle View Post

The tongue pad has a different effect than a heel grip. Theoretically, it should push your foot toward the rear of the shoe to press your heel more securely against the heel/counter. It also helps accomodate a smaller volume foot.

 

I thought that might happen too, but my heel was very close to gripping when I first got them. I have a really narrow heel, though, and once I worked in the sole, it had less motivation to pull away.

 

If you are already sticking with the shoes (meaning you wore them outside), I would at least consider the tongue pad. They're pretty darn cheap and not permanent. You may really like it, and if you don't, you're not out much (the local AE store here will give you a set if you want them, but they're just a buck or two for a set anyways). 

 

Going back to the lacing, the criss-cross should work, but I feel that places a lot of pressure in the two sections where it crosses below. I used the double helix style for a bit because it gave a similar snugness while spreading the pressure on the top of the foot.

 

Nice, I'll give both a try. Thank you.

 

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I generally advise against "modding" a shoe.  With some research and fitting you should be able to find an appropriate fit.  I have had some trouble getting a propper fit with AE.  I let an SA talk me into Super Feet (didn't work).  I tried Pedag inserts, heel grips, tongue pads.  In some cases the mods "worked", but I was never really happy with the result over time (i.e. I got rid of those shoes).

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Well, yeah, it's definitely better to get a shoe that fits right, but if the shoe has been worn, or you're between sizes and really want to make it work, little pads and such can sometimes help. I'd rather ship a shoe back and try a different size than try to make the wrong size fit, even if I really had to wait or got a shocking deal.

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Funny you should say that, as I am actually in between (as in exactly halfway) an 11.5B & 11.5C.  There are some styles and lasts that I avoid because they just don't work.  Even going up in size and making modifications leaves me dissatisfied with the outcome.  Hence, I have learned from experience to stick with certain sizes in certain lasts and approach other make ups with caution.  Just goes with the territory I imagine.

 

All good advice. Too late on these Elgins as I've worn them out a few times, but I'll be sure to think hard about the fit of the McTavish when it arrives.

 

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Originally Posted by horsey shoes View Post

I have had almost the exact experience with the same sizes. Tried 5 last rough collection in 8.5D, width fit but too long. Tried 5 last independence collection in 8.5D, width a bit snug and too long (heel slip). Tried 5 last rough collection in 8D, width too snug and felt too short.

Magic combo, 5 last rough 8E, 5 last independence 8E or EEE (depending on fit in store).

Long way of saying, adding width makes a world of difference.

 

Thanks for this confirmation. I'll wear these McTavishes around the house a bit and see if I have the same experience. I'm actually surprised 8E was wide enough. Were you able to compare with 8EE or 8EEE?

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I just got my first pair of AEs - Brooks Brothers walnut strand. While I understand that, as factory seconds, they will have some cosmetic blemishes, I am concerned about the streaking that appears on the toe cap of each shoe and the cracks in the leather.





Is this the normal type of blemish one should expect from a factory second? Should I try to get a different pair, or just live with it? Would the AE walnut polish work to cover it up at all?

Thanks!

 

At least on the toes, those look more like minor cosmetic scratches then a problem with the leather dying process. I think they could be fixed with polish. Not sure about the sides; it's hard to tell from the photos.

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What do yall think about these Fairfax's. Not sure about the stitching

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The Fairfax was one of the best looking shoes Allen Edmonds ever made. Extremely comfortable too. I have 'em in black, chestnut, and merlot. I posted this photo some time ago in another thread, but reposting it here.

 

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Originally Posted by f1fan View Post

I just got my first pair of AEs - Brooks Brothers walnut strand. While I understand that, as factory seconds, they will have some cosmetic blemishes, I am concerned about the streaking that appears on the toe cap of each shoe and the cracks in the leather.





Is this the normal type of blemish one should expect from a factory second? Should I try to get a different pair, or just live with it? Would the AE walnut polish work to cover it up at all?

Thanks!

 

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Originally Posted by kentyman View Post

 

At least on the toes, those look more like minor cosmetic scratches then a problem with the leather dying process. I think they could be fixed with polish. Not sure about the sides; it's hard to tell from the photos.

 

Clean and polish. 

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What do yall think about these Fairfax's. Not sure about the stitching

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great looking shoes. they look narrow.

Do yall mean they look tight or just a narrow shoe? They felt very comfy even with athletic socks on.

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I'm curious, how much is a discount on the seconds shoes?  I ask because I would want to weigh the value vs. the minor blemishes.  Thanks!
 

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Originally Posted by Scottyb06 View Post

I'm curious, how much is a discount on the seconds shoes?  I ask because I would want to weigh the value vs. the minor blemishes.  Thanks!
 


It depends on the shoe I believe.
The AE Patriot loafer seconds i'm considering for instance are regualrly priced at $350~ and seconds would be $269.
Combine this with the S4S promo and it goes down to $234.

Call the Shoe Bank and ask for your interests. (Somebody else can chime in with the number. sizzle??)

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I'm looking for a potential alternative to Park Avenues for a black cap-toe oxford. I measure 13.5C/13C left/right foot on a Brannock device, so I'm tricky to fit. I can kind of wear a 13C on the 5 and 8 lasts.

 

Can anyone speak to the quality of the Loake 1880 Rothschild? I haven't been able to find anything on SF about it. According to their size chart, their 13 UK is about a 13.5 US. It also comes in a UK E width, which is narrower than normal. I also like the placement of the toe cap a little better. Link: http://www.loake.co.uk/rothschild.html

 

ETA: Of course, Wikipedia claims that UK shoe sizes are typically 1 whole size difference from US. Who to believe?


Edited by Ketawa - 2/28/13 at 4:11pm
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BTW. Just found this Reddit thread. This quote in particular makes me LOVE Grangaard a million times more.

 

Q: Allen Edmonds is constantly praised for their range of beautiful shoe styles. However, like most shoemakers, you have to cater to those who may not appreciate those styles. If there was one AE shoe that you could get rid of, both stop selling it, and stop the style among all shoemakers, which style/shoe would it be?

 

Grangaard Answer: Au contraire, Pierre, that's an easy question... The square bicycle toe slip-on in cheap corrected leather with an obviously rubber sole. We don't make it, but the guy in a nice suit across the aisle from me on the plane yesterday was wearing it. It looked bad, really bad, and totally inconsistent with the rest of his effort. It's like a great golfer with the putting yips -- you don't win tournaments with a bad case of the yips.

 

Grangaard is the man. BTW, didn't know he went to Stanford and UChicago Business School...sharp guy.

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Originally Posted by catlettsl View Post

Do yall mean they look tight or just a narrow shoe? They felt very comfy even with athletic socks on.

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They appear narrow because the quarters of the shoe should be much closer together; you have a wide (3/4-1") V, a width wider would greatly reduce this.
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