Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - Page 1015

Can anyone comment on the fit and sizing for the cordovan Dundee?  I've got the Dalton and the Bayfield which share the last with the Dundee.  Both my Daltons and Bayfields are in 11B with the Daltons being a little loose. 

Also, any pictures of the Dark Brown Shell Cordovan?  All I'm finding are the cappuccino cordovan pictures, which are aaammmmaaaazzzzing. 

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Originally Posted by tubby34 

I've narrowed my choice down to the Park Avenues, but I have two honest questions I need help answering.

I live in Miami, where it rains often or there is constantly water in the street/sidewalk.

 

Should I go for leather soles, even though the water will be rough on them? Or Should I go for rubber soles since they seem to have a thin welt? If I go for rubber soles, I'd push for the VIP Rubber sole, which looks a bit dressier.

 

The next question is in regards to fit. I tried on the Brooks Brothers Park Avenues in a 10.5D after they said that was my size, but it felt tight and uncomfortable on the sides of my toes. Should I look for a E , EE or EEE in the Park Avenues? The Salesman said don't go wider, but I can't wear them the way he suggests without pain. I was thinking go to the E, but they didn't have anything wider than D to try on.

 

Thanks for any help....and for all the help you've given so far.

I prefer the leather soles but if they are going to see water on a somewhat consistent basis, go with a topy or have AE do it with the options they offer now.

As for the fit, 10.5D to 10.5E may not sound like a lot, but it is pretty wider.  If the 10.5D is a tad tight, or tight enough to know you are going to be in discomfort, I would actually try on a few sizes to see what works best. 

Depending on how long your foot is, an 11D might work better for you without having to go up a width size.  If not, and you do have a good amount of room in the toebox, then try a 10E as well as the 10.5E.

The rubber sole on the Brooks Brothers is actually great and I find the insole more comfortable than the regular AEs

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Originally Posted by nickrut 

I always try to error on the side of slightly too wide compared to slightly too narrow. My feet always have something going on due to being active so I appreciate the space

I would always go up in width if I was stuck between two, simply because of the fact that your feet do swell throughout the day, so that extra room will always be put to good use. 

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Originally Posted by lostron 

The rubber sole on the Brooks Brothers is actually great and I find the insole more comfortable than the regular AEs

Is that the poron insole?

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Originally Posted by evolved 

Can anyone comment on the fit and sizing for the cordovan Dundee?  I've got the Dalton and the Bayfield which share the last with the Dundee.  Both my Daltons and Bayfields are in 11B with the Daltons being a little loose. 

 

Also, any pictures of the Dark Brown Shell Cordovan?  All I'm finding are the cappuccino cordovan pictures, which are aaammmmaaaazzzzing. 

I have the Dalton in walnut shell and both the CXL and black calf Bayfield's. And all 5 AE shell colors of the Dundee. The Dundee fit is somewhat in between the two other boots and just about perfect for me, I'd go with the 11B in your case. Just got the Dark Brown and Cappuccino Dundee's late last week and will try to get a picture up soon for you.

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Originally Posted by Cold Iron 

I have the Dalton in walnut shell and both the CXL and black calf Bayfield's. And all 5 AE shell colors of the Dundee. The Dundee fit is somewhat in between the two other boots and just about perfect for me, I'd go with the 11B in your case. Just got the Dark Brown and Cappuccino Dundee's late last week and will try to get a picture up soon for you.

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Originally Posted by MacktasticGDogg 


I have a pair of the cappuccino cordovan Dundees. I have two other pairs of AE's (Wilbert & Hamptons) in the 1-last at the same size, 9D, and I find the Dundee to be looser fitting than the others. It works fine for me once the laces are tightened, but definitely more roomy. I'm uncertain if sizing down by half-size would have worked better, but it's fine as-is, especially if I wear thicker socks.

By the way, I don't think the looser fit of the Dundee is due to it being shell cordovan. I have a pair of cordovan Bradleys in size 9.5D (also 1-last), and the 9D Dundees are a little looser fitting than the 9.5D Bradleys.

Thanks for the words of wisdom, fellas.  If I go ahead with the Dundees I may size down to 10.5B because I want to be able to wear them in warmer weather without thick socks.  Is the cappuccino color available through special order only currently? 

 Also, if I end up going with the non-special order dark brown cordovan color I would want to lighten up the welt (would love natural).  I've read elsewhere that this is easy to accomplish with some fine grit sandpaper, a steady hand and some plain edge treatment.  Anyone have experience with that? 

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Originally Posted by jjr4884 

 

I prefer the leather soles but if they are going to see water on a somewhat consistent basis, go with a topy or have AE do it with the options they offer now.

 

As for the fit, 10.5D to 10.5E may not sound like a lot, but it is pretty wider.  If the 10.5D is a tad tight, or tight enough to know you are going to be in discomfort, I would actually try on a few sizes to see what works best. 

 

Depending on how long your foot is, an 11D might work better for you without having to go up a width size.  If not, and you do have a good amount of room in the toebox, then try a 10E as well as the 10.5E.

Thanks for the advise, I used the Brannock and came in a tad under 10.5. I've worn size 11, 11.5 sneakers for the past few years and the E makes sense now. I never grew in foot size, I just got fatter, and my foot wider.

I'll look into the topy when AE calls back about fullfilling my order. I kind of prefer the rubber due to the amount of water and tile down here. But I'm probably going to heed some advice and get the leather.

I did it on a pair of old brown MacNeils.  My advice is to not use regular masking tape.  It took some of the finish off.

Does Allen Edmond still make the Lombards?

Do they have an wingtips that are open laced (bluchers)