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post #14926 of 46917
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Originally Posted by FashionDisaster View Post

How important is width in a shoe? I stopped by the local Allen Edmonds store today because I wanted to try on a Kenilworth. My width is a C and the sales person mentioned that a size D should suffice. He also mentioned that a C width would have to be custom ordered. I was not able to try on a size 8 D because they did not have any in stock. Also, I thought I read somewhere that I should go down one size for the Kenilworth because of the toe box. Does that sound about right?

Custom order the shoe, you aren't obligated to buy just because they order them.

I recently ordred a pair of loafers and the sales rep has alway been nice about working with me. (I've been there over 5 times)
post #14927 of 46917

+1

 

Width is not trivial.  The AE store can order and hold any catalog size.  The Kenilworth though is not offered in a "C" width though AE can make it.  And it doesn't look like they offer any 5 lasted derbys in a "C" width.  You can try a balmoral like the PA which should be easy to get in a "C" width.  If you like the fit, then you can MTO the Kenilworth in "C".  But by all means, try on a "D" width in the store.  Just remember the difference in width is important.

post #14928 of 46917
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Originally Posted by CalTex View Post


Custom order the shoe, you aren't obligated to buy just because they order them.

I recently ordred a pair of loafers and the sales rep has alway been nice about working with me. (I've been there over 5 times)

By custom order, the SA meant that AE would make a custom pair of shoes in a C width for him, so he would be obligated to purchase.  I agree to try on the D width and see how it fits.  Also, I'm not sure the fit of any other 5 last shoe in a C width is going to help much with your decision because AE advises to size down 1/2 size in the Kenilworth as opposed to other 5 last shoes.

post #14929 of 46917
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Originally Posted by CalTex View Post


Goldbond every time I wear them?

I only plan on wearing then on the weekends (sat and sun) so you're saying I should have two separate pairs if I wish to do this?

Does everyone just wear socks with loafers then?

It is fairly common to go sockless with loafers. The issue is wearing them 2 days in a row. It is usually a good idea to let the shoes dry thoroughly between wearings (shoe trees help with this). 24 hours is generally the accepted period of time, so basically you should only wear the same pair of shoes every other day. Going sockless only makes things worse, so I would stick with this rule.

post #14930 of 46917
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Originally Posted by masernaut View Post

The more I look at the new shoes, the more I begin to like them. But not enough to warrant an immediate purchase. The Chukkamok and Banchory in Navy don't look so bad. But again, if the names weren't so bad..

 

On the other hand, I'm really enjoying my walnut Strands =)

 

 

 

Very good looking Strands!

post #14931 of 46917
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Originally Posted by CalTex View Post

Goldbond every time I wear them?

I only plan on wearing then on the weekends (sat and sun) so you're saying I should have two separate pairs if I wish to do this?

Does everyone just wear socks with loafers then?

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Originally Posted by msulinski View Post

It is fairly common to go sockless with loafers. The issue is wearing them 2 days in a row. It is usually a good idea to let the shoes dry thoroughly between wearings (shoe trees help with this). 24 hours is generally the accepted period of time, so basically you should only wear the same pair of shoes every other day. Going sockless only makes things worse, so I would stick with this rule.

+1. There's no good solution for this. You will just end up wearing the shoes out much faster from the inside. But maybe that's just the way it is, and you'll have to plan on buying new shoes more often.

Here is an idea I remembered from J Crew. They sell these super low profile socks that are designed to look like you aren't wearing any. Not sure if you'd do this, but throwing it out there.

http://www.jcrew.com/mens_category/accessories/socks/PRDOVR~10089/10089.jsp
post #14932 of 46917
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Originally Posted by CalTex View Post

Goldbond every time I wear them?

I only plan on wearing then on the weekends (sat and sun) so you're saying I should have two separate pairs if I wish to do this?

Does everyone just wear socks with loafers then?

I wear moc socks with my loafers.

http://msandco.myshopify.com/products/three-pack-mocc-socks
post #14933 of 46917
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Originally Posted by Winston S. View Post


I wear moc socks with my loafers.

http://msandco.myshopify.com/products/three-pack-mocc-socks

 

Another option is the Ralph Lauren loafer liner that Nordstrom sells.  They are thinner than the Mocc Socks if that is your preference:

 

http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/polo-ralph-lauren-liner-socks-3-pack-men/3256342?origin=keywordsearch&contextualcategoryid=0&fashionColor=Black&resultback=0

post #14934 of 46917
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Originally Posted by reidrothchild View Post
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AE needs some new designers. I've been waiting for a suede Strand, but they go and add that awful white sole to it. Over the last year or so, they've just been adding way too many unnecessary quirks to their new offerings. AE needs to stop trying to be Mark McNairy and focus on basics. I mean, is the market really crying out for a wing-tip/loafer or more grey leather? Things AE needs to focus on before worrying about offering anymore weird-colored, quirky shoes (maybe more accurately, my personal wish list):
1. A decent single monk. I do not count the Norwich because it is on the 2 last, a terrible last whose name should never be spoken again.
2. A suede brogue dress shoe. Really just more suede in general. Most of their suede seems to be focused on unlined casual shoes like the Neumok and Amok.
3. A nice looking captoe balmoral for their Classic line (as has been discussed, the cap on the PA and FA is too stubby).
4. A sleek, high-vamp tassel loafer offered in walnut, brown, bourbon, and/or suede (not the black/burgundy Grayson or Manchester favored by 60 year olds).

 

Is this really too much to ask before AE vomits another multi-colored wingtip with a brick-red sole and made from "rough" leather on us?

 

rotflmao.gifSo true.

 

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Originally Posted by Cold Iron View Post

A man can never have enough boots, wingtips, or brown shoes IMO. 

 

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Well, I agree with 2 outta 3 icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif  Both your Leeds look great - you take good care of your shoes and it shows.

 

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Originally Posted by masernaut View Post

These are all awful. It's one thing to design a bad looking shoe that will not flourish in the market (again), but it's another to give it awful names like "Chukkamok" and "Strandmok." Did the naming department get scrapped or something?

 

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post #14935 of 46917
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Originally Posted by PhiPsi32 View Post

I'll have to disagree.  The execution may be less than optimal, but AE has the right idea.  They're looking for a broader range of shoes.  The staple shoes like the PA and Strand will only take the company so far.  They need to expand their market base to include casual shoes (for example Alden has a strong hold on dress and casual shoes).  I, for one, have been lobbying AE to do a "Strand" in the rough casual leathers, olive specifically.  AE has focused too closely on the short wing design for too many of their shoes (McAllister, Neumok, Ridgeway, McTavish, Cronmok, Long Branch, Dalton, Broadstreet, Jefferson, Cambridge, Players Shoe, and others I've forgotten).  I'm just happy to see something other than a short wing!

 

I am presuming you have quite the collection of staple shoes to be looking at funkier alternatives for variety's sake. I think most people would be better served purchasing staple shoes that would serve them a lifetime, than a limited role fashion shoe that is going to go out of vogue in several years, but I digress.

 

Its just a matter of taste, plain and simple.

 

You can be different in a more conservative way (Epaulet's Carmina MTO's):

 

 

Or you can look at current AE offerings that mimic Cole Haan's:

 

From AE's perspective and a business perspective, the latter may make more sense.

 

For me, one definitely looks more dignified/mature than the other...

post #14936 of 46917

It's a matter of taste and environment.  I work in a building where most of the staff are in jeans and tshirts.  Busting out the Carminas would be odd for the environment. 

post #14937 of 46917
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Originally Posted by PhiPsi32 View Post

It's a matter of taste and environment.  I work in a building where most of the staff are in jeans and tshirts.  Busting out the Carminas would be odd for the environment. 

 

Deja vu. Pretty sure we've been down this path before. Good point, you right; I know those architect/design/marketing firm feels.

post #14938 of 46917

Can anyone who owns both the Strand and Black Hills comment on sizing. My 8E Strands fit perfectly, but I found a brand new pair of Black Hills on eBay for $50. Alas, they are an 8D. Do you think I could squeeze into them, given they are a blutcher rather than a balmoral?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Your friendly, neighborhood eye doctor.

post #14939 of 46917
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Originally Posted by OptoDoc View Post

Can anyone who owns both the Strand and Black Hills comment on sizing. My 8E Strands fit perfectly, but I found a brand new pair of Black Hills on eBay for $50. Alas, they are an 8D. Do you think I could squeeze into them, given they are a blutcher rather than a balmoral?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Your friendly, neighborhood eye doctor.

There is a good chance, mainly because they are made from rough/waxy leather. Since the shoe doesn't fit as tightly over the last, it runs big. This is true for me with the McTavish (size 9E) and the McAllister (size 9.5E).

post #14940 of 46917
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Originally Posted by facet View Post

Wondering if I can get some help on sizing as I plan on getting a pair of Kenilworths and Norwich (or Bostons if they're still available).

My size is 8.5C but I found that 8D works quite well for the Park Avenues. From what I've read, then I would want to get the Kenilworths in 7.5D as they tend to run larger? How would the Norwich (or Bostons) compare size wise to PAs for those with experience with them?

 

I have the Strand in 8E (same last) and I have recently sent back 8E and 8D Kenilworths as they were too big. My next size to try is 7.5E. So yes...the size is drastically different from your measured size (8.5D for me).

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