My size is 8.5C but I found that 8D works quite well for the Park Avenues. From what I've read, then I would want to get the Kenilworths in 7.5D as they tend to run larger? How would the Norwich (or Bostons) compare size wise to PAs for those with experience with them?
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I'm starting to think they have a massive stockpile of grey leather that they're trying to move any way they can.
I tend to agree. If memory serves correctly, there were several shoes that had never even been posted at regular price that suddenly appeared in the clearance section made from grey leather. It's like a direct to TV/DVD movie.... you know it's gonna be bad so why bother!? ![]()

New shoes popping up on AE's website!!! I'm not a fan so far. ![]()
http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF8034_1_40000000001_-1
http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF7034_1_40000000001_-1
http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF8245_1_40000000001_-1
http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF4818_1_40000000001_-1
Of those 4, only the Strandmok doesn't make me nauseous. I actually kinda like the Strandmok (hate the name), but not sure I would really have a spot for either color in my wardrobe.

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As for the differences between the LB and the Dalton, the LB is decidedly more casual. However, I think it will be fine based on what you said you plan to wear with it. I also assume that given where you live, people may be more forgiving of a more casual boot than they may be in warmer parts of the US. The Dalton has a natural leather insole just like the majority of the rest of AE's. However, the Long Branch has a synthetic insole (probably some form of fiberboard), covered with leather wrapped foam. That was my only hold up when I was looking into getting them, since I favor the natural leather insoles. I believe that the natural leather insoles are eliminating a potential weak link after years of wear and tear. I decided not to worry about it since I got them on such a great sale, and my needs were more like yours. The walnut Dalton's are using the same calf leather as the rest of AE's line (unless you get the shell version), while the LB is using full cow hide. The color is quite different between the two, but not enough to change what you can wear them with IMO. In fact, the more conservative types may even say that the more traditional brown color of the LB may be more versatile than the walnut.
Let me know if I can tell you anymore details.
That's great... Thanks a lot! Longbranch it is!

Wondering if I can get some help on sizing as I plan on getting a pair of Kenilworths and Norwich (or Bostons if they're still available).
My size is 8.5C but I found that 8D works quite well for the Park Avenues. From what I've read, then I would want to get the Kenilworths in 7.5D as they tend to run larger? How would the Norwich (or Bostons) compare size wise to PAs for those with experience with them?
I don't have direct experience, but the Kenilworth and the Park Avenue are on the same last, and so should fit the same. In any case, I would find it hard to believe that a 7.5D, which is a full size down in length from your measured size, would work. The Kenilworth is a blucher vs. a balmoral for the PA, but also hard to believe they vary a half size in the same width.
The Norwich is a whole other animal, as it is on the 2 last, which is very narrow - but which may be a good fit for you, as you have a narrow foot.
Given your own relatively rarer width of C and the difference in these lasts, I would really say you need to try them on.
1. A decent single monk. I do not count the Norwich because it is on the 2 last, a terrible last whose name should never be spoken again.
2. A suede brogue dress shoe. Really just more suede in general. Most of their suede seems to be focused on unlined casual shoes like the Neumok and Amok.
3. A nice looking captoe balmoral for their Classic line (as has been discussed, the cap on the PA and FA is too stubby).
4. A sleek, high-vamp tassel loafer offered in walnut, brown, bourbon, and/or suede (not the black/burgundy Grayson or Manchester favored by 60 year olds).
Is this really too much to ask before AE vomits another multi-colored wingtip with a brick-red sole and made from "rough" leather on us?
Edited by reidrothchild - 1/28/13 at 1:54pm

AE needs some new designers. I've been waiting for a suede Strand, but they go and add that awful white sole to it. Over the last year or so, they've just been adding way too many unnecessary quirks to their new offerings. AE needs to stop trying to be Mark McNairy and focus on basics.
They can change the sole for you. That's easy. And I don't think there is a charge for it either.

I customized a pair of the football mentioned above and they look great. I am really tempted at that price, however I would catch crap from my wife regardless of the price. She shops and Target and can't appreciate that I believe in buying high quality goods. What to do??? What's a few more days in the dog house?
Think you need a new wife, man.

Wondering if I can get some help on sizing as I plan on getting a pair of Kenilworths and Norwich (or Bostons if they're still available).
My size is 8.5C but I found that 8D works quite well for the Park Avenues. From what I've read, then I would want to get the Kenilworths in 7.5D as they tend to run larger? How would the Norwich (or Bostons) compare size wise to PAs for those with experience with them?
I wear an 8.5D Strand and Fifth Avenue, and the 8.5D Kenilworths are a bit big on me. I haven't returned them yet to try something else, but I think an 8E might work for me.
Interesting ...
I wear a 9D in the PA and Strand. A 9D in the Kenilworth was too small.

AE needs some new designers. I've been waiting for a suede Strand, but they go and add that awful white sole to it. Over the last year or so, they've just been adding way too many unnecessary quirks to their new offerings. AE needs to stop trying to be Mark McNairy and focus on basics. I mean, is the market really crying out for a wing-tip/loafer or more grey leather? Things AE needs to focus on before worrying about offering anymore weird-colored, quirky shoes (maybe more accurately, my personal wish list):
1. A decent single monk. I do not count the Norwich because it is on the 2 last, a terrible last whose name should never be spoken again.
2. A suede brogue dress shoe. Really just more suede in general. Most of their suede seems to be focused on unlined casual shoes like the Neumok and Amok.
3. A nice looking captoe balmoral for their Classic line (as has been discussed, the cap on the PA and FA is too stubby).
4. A sleek, high-vamp tassel loafer offered in walnut, brown, bourbon, and/or suede (not the black/burgundy Grayson or Manchester favored by 60 year olds).
Is this really too much to ask before AE vomits another multi-colored wingtip with a brick-red sole and made from "rough" leather on us?

This post had me laughing, partly because there is much of it I agree with.
Really? I assumed there would be a an upcharge for a sole change. If they can do the Strandmok in a different sole, then disregard my previous post. Hooray Strandmok!

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1. A decent single monk. I do not count the Norwich because it is on the 2 last, a terrible last whose name should never be spoken again.
4. A sleek, high-vamp tassel loafer offered in walnut, brown, bourbon, and/or suede (not the black/burgundy Grayson or Manchester favored by 60 year olds).
Is this really too much to ask before AE vomits another multi-colored wingtip with a brick-red sole and made from "rough" leather on us?
I agree that a suede McAllister or Strand -- similar to the C&J Westfield in tobacco suede -- would be a good idea.
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