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post #14221 of 46917

No need.  You are correct.  I did try on the McTavish and noticed that it is indeed stiffer.  Though I found the double leather sole to be the major difference in perceived fit.  The "rough" line covers a lot of ground and no one description is necessarily complete.  Thank you for pointing that out.

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This post from MoneyWellSpent may add some color:

 

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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post

[...] The leather on the McTavish is heavier (It is Horween Dublin leather, which is full cowhide rather than calf).  I am not sure what the leather uppers on the Neumok are, but it is much softer and silkier to the touch.  The softer leather combined with the lack of a liner will undoubtedly make the Neumok much softer on the feet. [...] The softer leather all around, no liner, and single sole of the Neumok make it much more flexible right out of the box and overall lighter. [...]

 

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I'm sorry for disagreeing, but there seem to be more differences. Certainly, some are aesthetic, in the form of chunkier, heavier soles and rougher finishing around the seams, as well as those you mentioned. However, the leather on some of them (McTavish and Elgin) seem a lot stiffer, and AE reps will confirm that leather characteristic. Thus, they don't conform as tightly to the last and may result in a looser fit. Some of the unlined Neumoks get past it and conform more tightly. I know my Jingle Bell Moks fit a lot more snugly than my McTavish, and a lot more like my other 5-last shoes from the more classic lines.
I guess that's not completely disagreeing, but still, I think that's a minor part of the rough label.

 

I don't know for sure, but I assumed from this that the Neumok used a waxed calfskin instead of the Horween Dublin cowhide of the McTavish and/or Elgin.

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Thank you, sir.  That certainly sounds like an accurate description.

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Strands in walnut

Delrays in dark brown

Bayfields in brown CXL

Daltons in burnished walnut

 

Johnston & Murphy black captoe's

Johnston & Murphy burgundy mid-wings

 

 

If anything I'm in need of a new pair of black plain cap toes. 

 

If you regularly wear a suit, you need a brown cap toe.

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If you regularly wear a suit, you need a brown cap toe.


I wear one at least 4x per week, and sometimes 5x depending on client meetings.  And I agree, which is why I'm trying to resist the $150 Strands in black.   I'm thinking maybe Park Ave's in Bourbon, or some other shoe brand, possibly.  Alden?  C&J?  I dunno....I'll have to do some research. 

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I wear one at least 4x per week, and sometimes 5x depending on client meetings.  And I agree, which is why I'm trying to resist the $150 Strands in black.   I'm thinking maybe Park Ave's in Bourbon, or some other shoe brand, possibly.  Alden?  C&J?  I dunno....I'll have to do some research. 

I would skip the Strands in black as well as the Park Avenue in any color except black. I agree with the poster who suggested the brown captoe. The Fifth Ave in dark brown is OK, but many don't like the location of the cap line. I personally like the C&J Westbourne in chestnut.

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While we're talking sizes is there much variance between the Park Avenue / Fifth Avenue / Strands, given they are all variants of the last 5?

 

I am the same size in Park Avenues and Fifth Avenues, however I sized down 1/2 a size in the Kenilworth (also the 5 last)

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I wear one at least 4x per week, and sometimes 5x depending on client meetings.  And I agree, which is why I'm trying to resist the $150 Strands in black.   I'm thinking maybe Park Ave's in Bourbon, or some other shoe brand, possibly.  Alden?  C&J?  I dunno....I'll have to do some research. 

 

Well, if we're talking C&J, defintely avoid the Strands or Park Avenues.  I like anything on the 341 or the 337 lasts.

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pics, hard to believe

 

 

You are right. I took them back to the store and after we closely examined them, the conclusion is that I might have stepped on something and cut the back sole. Either way, not very noticeable and to anyone except me, so I am ok with it.

 

...However, there was an absolute issue with my Kenilworths. I took them out of the box for the first time, and there was literally a piece of leather cut off the back of the shoe. They took those back right away.

 

I am now debating the Kenilworths or Park Aves for my wedding. Or maybe I'll look at another brand. There was a pair of C&J I like, but their lack of wide sizes makes me think I might not fit into them.

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I wear one at least 4x per week, and sometimes 5x depending on client meetings.  And I agree, which is why I'm trying to resist the $150 Strands in black.   I'm thinking maybe Park Ave's in Bourbon, or some other shoe brand, possibly.  Alden?  C&J?  I dunno....I'll have to do some research. 

If you're looking at these brands and money is no object, go C&J; and it's not even close. You'll pay almost double from AE, though.

And I completely agree with these two gents:
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

If you regularly wear a suit, you need a brown cap toe.

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Originally Posted by msulinski View Post

I would skip the Strands in black as well as the Park Avenue in any color except black. I agree with the poster who suggested the brown captoe. The Fifth Ave in dark brown is OK, but many don't like the location of the cap line. I personally like the C&J Westbourne in chestnut.
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Originally Posted by jns425 View Post

 

 

You are right. I took them back to the store and after we closely examined them, the conclusion is that I might have stepped on something and cut the back sole. Either way, not very noticeable and to anyone except me, so I am ok with it.

 

...However, there was an absolute issue with my Kenilworths. I took them out of the box for the first time, and there was literally a piece of leather cut off the back of the shoe. They took those back right away.

 

I am now debating the Kenilworths or Park Aves for my wedding. Or maybe I'll look at another brand. There was a pair of C&J I like, but their lack of wide sizes makes me think I might not fit into them.

 

Do you have sharp objects around your ankle or something? smile.gif

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I wear one at least 4x per week, and sometimes 5x depending on client meetings.  And I agree, which is why I'm trying to resist the $150 Strands in black.   I'm thinking maybe Park Ave's in Bourbon, or some other shoe brand, possibly.  Alden?  C&J?  I dunno....I'll have to do some research. 

 

IMO, black cap toes look better with the "less is more" approach.  After looking at many AE's, i chose to go with Magnanni.  It is the same upper as the "Federico" model, but it has a leather sole.  I can't find them online since I don't know the name of them, however they are at the same price point as AE's but I scored them for $210 at my local Nordstrom's Rack.  Gorgeous shoe, more sleek/european than your typical AE, but I think they look 10x better than many other black shoes.  Black brogueing looks like something a priest would wear, no offense to anyone that owns them.  Black is formal, so I think the busy (casual) broguing clashes with something that has a more formal color.

 

http://www.magnanni.com/products/6-federico-black.aspx

 

pictures do not do that shoe justice, and for $200 for the rubber sole, even that is still a good deal. 

 

still can't find them online, but they are identical to these below, just regular black calf leather, all one finish lol

 

http://www.zappos.com/magnanni-cesar-black

 

 

found them, they are called Mateo, in black

 

http://magnanni.com/products/130-mateo-black.aspx

post #14233 of 46917
For those with AE Bourbon shoes - they have another Bourbon belt on the website. The new Dearborn belt is available in Bourbon. So now you can get the Dearborn or the Manistee in Bourbon.

They also have a new croc-embossed leather belt on the website.

Chris
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Originally Posted by hohneokc View Post

For those with AE Bourbon shoes - they have another Bourbon belt on the website. The new Dearborn belt is available in Bourbon. So now you can get the Dearborn or the Manistee in Bourbon.
They also have a new croc-embossed leather belt on the website.
Chris

I was just going to look at the website and see what they have.  I have a pair of bourbons (on backorder) so I will need a matching belt at some point.  Thanks.

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Is the issue with the captoe line on the park avenue purely personal preference or is this a style faux pas?...was considering these in brown/merlot to go with business/formal wear?

 

Is there much difference between D to E?  Put it this way the 8.5D in the strand feels like a good fit, snug with still some room from the big toe to the end of the shoe but after several hours wear the sides of my pinky toe and big toe are quite sore, would a move to E or EE be the right call in this case perhaps?

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