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post #14131 of 49948
Just saw these added to the Freemans Sporting Club website, in case anyone is interested...

AE x FSC Kenilworth
◦FSC Exclusive Horween Cherry Cordovan leather
◦FSC logo embossing on insole
◦Double Oak Toasted Leather Sole

PRICE: $780.00

http://shop.freemanssportingclub.com/collections/footwear/products/ae-x-fsc-kenilworth
post #14132 of 49948
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Originally Posted by omgitswes View Post

It's a cotillion ball for my younger sister, so I doubt I'll get any side eyes from people. Best thing about the Park Aves is that I'll be able to wear them more after the event as well. Just wondering if there were any other similar options

You could also consider a pair of Vernon in black.
post #14133 of 49948
Thought I would share this information on recrafting, in case anyone needs it for future reference. I asked AE about recrafting the Ralph Lauren branded shoes and the Italian collection shoes. Here is what they said:

We do not have authority to recraft Ralph Lauren, even the ones that were manufactured by us. I am sorry. Yes, we recraft the Verona, however, they will not be recrafted with the Italian sole but with a comparable American sole.

I'm not sure what sole they would use for the Italian loafers. But my Verona will be in need soon, so I may find out.
post #14134 of 49948
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Originally Posted by omgitswes View Post

Which AE do you guys think will go best for a black tie event?
Could Park Avenues work if I just polish them? Don't really want any patent leather shoes

 

I'm wearing the Kenilworth for my wedding with a tux. I also own a pair of Fifth Avenues, but I thought the Kenilworth was a little better for the black tie because of the lack of lines/perforations.

post #14135 of 49948
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Originally Posted by fiestaplatypus View Post

Just saw these added to the Freemans Sporting Club website, in case anyone is interested...
AE x FSC Kenilworth
◦FSC Exclusive Horween Cherry Cordovan leather
◦FSC logo embossing on insole
◦Double Oak Toasted Leather Sole
PRICE: $780.00
http://shop.freemanssportingclub.com/collections/footwear/products/ae-x-fsc-kenilworth

 

 

Those are nice! No wide sizes would exclude me though.

post #14136 of 49948
Those are nice, but why no half sizes? Also, I could order my own custom cordovan Kenilworth from AE for what? $750?
post #14137 of 49948
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Originally Posted by kmdsimpson View Post

Thought I would share this information on recrafting, in case anyone needs it for future reference. I asked AE about recrafting the Ralph Lauren branded shoes and the Italian collection shoes. Here is what they said:
We do not have authority to recraft Ralph Lauren, even the ones that were manufactured by us. I am sorry. Yes, we recraft the Verona, however, they will not be recrafted with the Italian sole but with a comparable American sole.
I'm not sure what sole they would use for the Italian loafers. But my Verona will be in need soon, so I may find out.

Well that kind've sucks as I've ordered Singleton and the Modena as part of the current sale. To me, the appeal of the Italian line is the uber-slim, flexible sole. I guess the RL thing must be something AE agreed to as part of the licensing agreement? My understanding is that the Singleton is just a Randolph made to Independence line specs, so it's not like the Italian line where they might simply not have access to the necessary materials/machinery.

Oh well, given the prices, I can't complain too much. Guess I'll just be topying both.
post #14138 of 49948
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Originally Posted by reidrothchild View Post

Those are nice, but why no half sizes? Also, I could order my own custom cordovan Kenilworth from AE for what? $750?

 

Where is that option?

post #14139 of 49948
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Originally Posted by reidrothchild View Post

Well that kind've sucks as I've ordered Singleton and the Modena as part of the current sale. To me, the appeal of the Italian line is the uber-slim, flexible sole. I guess the RL thing must be something AE agreed to as part of the licensing agreement? My understanding is that the Singleton is just a Randolph made to Independence line specs, so it's not like the Italian line where they might simply not have access to the necessary materials/machinery.
Oh well, given the prices, I can't complain too much. Guess I'll just be topying both.

i agree. I guess there must be something about the licensing deal with RL. There was a similar situation with Brooks Brothers that was discussed here a while back, but they eventually covered Brooks shoes under their recrafting program.

The Italian is also disappointing, since they clearly state in the Verona description that they can be recrafted, with the "full recrafting service"
http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF49600_1_40000000001_-1

I guess they don't count the original soles as part of that?

And I should have topy'd my Veronas. They got used in wet weather, and with the thin soles, they really took a beating.
post #14140 of 49948
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Originally Posted by reidrothchild View Post

Those are nice, but why no half sizes? Also, I could order my own custom cordovan Kenilworth from AE for what? $750?

 

I agree.  I think AE is missing the boat.  So much of their high end selection is MTO these days, why not increase the flexibility of offerings instead of limiting them.

post #14141 of 49948
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Originally Posted by omgitswes View Post

It's a cotillion ball for my younger sister, so I doubt I'll get any side eyes from people. Best thing about the Park Aves is that I'll be able to wear them more after the event as well. Just wondering if there were any other similar options
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Originally Posted by jns425 View Post

I'm wearing the Kenilworth for my wedding with a tux. I also own a pair of Fifth Avenues, but I thought the Kenilworth was a little better for the black tie because of the lack of lines/perforations.
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Originally Posted by TheSizzle View Post

You could also consider a pair of Vernon in black.

The Vernon would be nice, but all those perfs really push it away from the unadorned black tie ideal. I would avoid the Kenilworth for the same reason I haven't bought their current Mayfair patent offering or worn my black cordovan Leeds: bluchers are casual and eveningwear is not.

I'm in a tuxedo at least monthly; for lack of the Ritz or Copley or any of the classic black tie shoes that Allen Edmonds used to produce, I've defaulted to bulled-toe black Park Avenues as my workhorse black tie shoe.

If my feet weren't AA width I'd buy a pair of these immediately, along with some black silk laces to spiff them up.
post #14142 of 49948
So, over various points over the last couple years, I'm sure I've read several opinions on the fit of the 1 last, but I could use some help on sizing.

I bought the Bayfield last year during the 2/$200 sale and picked up my usual size, a 13D. For me, a 13D in the 5 last is just about right in the toebox, but a bit too long for my foot. A 12.5E is usually a better fit, but much more difficult to come across in a ready to wear option. A 12.5D pinches too much on the pinky toes. When I received the Bayfields, I ininitally thought the fit was pretty good, but upon wearing them, I quickly realized that the toebox was very limiting, especially on the top and side of my pinky toes. The heel seemed ok, as did the length (although it is on the smaller size compared to my other AE's...closer to a 12.5).

Is this a common complaint with the 1 last across the board, or is it just something specific to the Bayfield? I'm currently looking to get in on the MTO Shell Leeds that bucksfan is organizing, but I really don't want to screw up the sizing on this one. As cordovan is typically a slightly looser fit, as I've found with my Strands and McCalisters, I have no idea what to do. I'm leaning towards a 13E, but if anyone has any opinions, I'd gladly welcome them.

Thanks in advance!

EDIT: I should add that getting to an AE store is not an easy feat for me, as I'm at least 3 hours away from the nearest one. Chances are, I won't be traveling for work anytime before the deadline for the MTO shoes.
Edited by fiestaplatypus - 1/4/13 at 2:19pm
post #14143 of 49948

Does anybody have pics of the discontinued style Hamptons in brown calf?  

 

There are some at the shoebank in my size I'm considering but just wanna see some more pics before I pull the trigger.

 

Thanks!!!!

post #14144 of 49948
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Originally Posted by DJTraveler View Post

Stumbled upon a very peculiar AE bourbon loafer on eBay.  Never seen this shoe before.  Maybe it's a sample intended or the Spring collection?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-ALLEN-EDMONDS-WING-TIP-LOAFER-BOURBON-10-D-MEDIUM-325-RARE-/370727809409?pt=US_Men_s_Shoes&hash=item5651197181




1000

That looks very similar to a model called the Fenwick I saw presented for Spring 2013 release. I don't know for sure as there is a slight difference in the vamp.

Chris
post #14145 of 49948
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Originally Posted by suaviter View Post

Does anybody have pics of the discontinued style Hamptons in brown calf?  

There are some at the shoebank in my size I'm considering but just wanna see some more pics before I pull the trigger.

Thanks!!!!

check page 931 of this topic - somebody just bought a pair and posted photos.

Chris
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