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I use the full toe tree in my 11D Daltons...size large I think.
I ordered them as seconds over the phone and asked the guy to just send whatever trees fit the best. Normally I would be wary of fixed toe since every shoe's a little different but it seems to work here.
Further, will the difference between full and split toes really have a substantial effect on the shoes? There's nothing wrong with this, but I've noticed people appear to be becoming more and more concerned with things that aren't really all that important. Just wear, take care, and be happy!
Originally Posted by BootSpell 
This 2nd pair of AE shell Daltons has me concerned. There is a lot of creasing all over the boots and some creases are deep enough that it looks like the finishing didn't reach the deeper grooves. But I'm still okay with that as I figure with wear I'll get creases (rolls) anyway and I can apply some cordo cream to the grooves and polish. However, there is a crease/bump on the right wingtip toe. The toe cap should not wrinkle or crease so wear will not disguise this with time.
It's probably a personal thing about how much tolerance one has for these things and whether it will bother me over time. But I'd like to hear what some of you would do if you received these.

I know not everyone agrees with me, but for the price they charge for these cordovan webgems, they should be perfect. There's no excuse for not doing a little quality control and a thorough inspection on a $500 - $600 item before it leaves the factory. I don't think that wrinkle will go away, as you say. I also don't know if they can make another pair for you. But if it were me, I would ask.
The mark on the side would not bother me as it will seemingly happen anyway; that very visible crease on the toe is another matter though. The boot will never naturally crease at that part of the toe cap and thus, that defect will never blend in - it also just happens to be on the most visible part of the boot. My opinion is that you should post them back, especially as these cordovan models cost $600. One of the reasons I continue to spend my money with Allen Edmonds is the phenomenal customer service, I would imagine they will remedy this for you.
Thanks to all of you for your input. After sleeping on it, these are going back. I've heard the "...dead animal skin..." logic but I'm not looking for perfection. There's lots of dead animal skin out there that is of extreme high quality. Bottom line is these boots should never have left AE as firsts. Barely as seconds, and maybe then if the price was right. Here's another pic of more creasing that I'm not sure would go away with wear. I could maybe have lived with that but the crease/ridge on the toe medallion was the deal breaker for me.
I just don't understand how AE quality control can let stuff like that leave their location. Not at $600. I do hope I can get a decent replacement.

Thanks to all of you for your input. After sleeping on it, these are going back. I've heard the "...dead animal skin..." logic but I'm not looking for perfection. There's lots of dead animal skin out there that is of extreme high quality. Bottom line is these boots should never have left AE as firsts. Barely as seconds, and maybe then if the price was right. Here's another pic of more creasing that I'm not sure would go away with wear. I could maybe have lived with that but the crease/ridge on the toe medallion was the deal breaker for me.
I just don't understand how AE quality control can let stuff like that leave their location. Not at $600. I do hope I can get a decent replacement.
what size are they? Maybe I can snag them as seconds!
I have had experience with both as well. I have to say that I prefer the full toe trees on my AE models. I think that there is a misconception that the tree has to fill up every last bit of the shoe. It doesn't. It just needs to take up the majority of the space, be large enough to straighten out the shoe and keep it from bowing up, and smooth out the creases on the toe. My experience with the combination trees is that they are a bit more finnicky and sometimes don't fully expand within the shoe, which isn't a problem with the full toe trees. I remember someone saying that they didn't think the full toe trees are not as good with 7 lasted shoes as well, but they seem great on my Sanfords.
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