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When will the next sale be? Any info?
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I use a Allen Edmond combination shoe tree in my Dalton's 11d large tree
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Woodlore Epic in my Dalton's. snug but perfect fit IMO.
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Originally Posted by Michael Haines View Post

I use a Allen Edmond combination shoe tree in my Dalton's 11d large tree

I use the full toe tree in my 11D Daltons...size large I think.

I ordered them as seconds over the phone and asked the guy to just send whatever trees fit the best. Normally I would be wary of fixed toe since every shoe's a little different but it seems to work here.
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Originally Posted by otc View Post

I use the full toe tree in my 11D Daltons...size large I think.
I ordered them as seconds over the phone and asked the guy to just send whatever trees fit the best. Normally I would be wary of fixed toe since every shoe's a little different but it seems to work here.
yeah, i am definitely a little skeptical the fixed toe tree being best for all AE models given the wide variation in toe shape and size among different lasts, but that's what they tell us...
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yeah, i am definitely a little skeptical the fixed toe tree being best for all AE models given the wide variation in toe shape and size among different lasts, but that's what they tell us...

Are shoe trees really that complicated?
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Originally Posted by clarksdb View Post

Are shoe trees really that complicated?

Further, will the difference between full and split toes really have a substantial effect on the shoes? There's nothing wrong with this, but I've noticed people appear to be becoming more and more concerned with things that aren't really all that important. Just wear, take care, and be happy!
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Originally Posted by clarksdb View Post

Are shoe trees really that complicated?

No.

But, strangely enough, the AE full toe trees and AE split toe trees are quite different. I have some of each.
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Originally Posted by BootSpell View Post

 

This 2nd pair of AE shell Daltons has me concerned.  There is a lot of creasing all over the boots and some creases are deep enough that it looks like the finishing didn't reach the deeper grooves.  But I'm still okay with that as I figure with wear I'll get creases (rolls) anyway and I can apply some cordo cream to the grooves and polish.  However, there is a crease/bump on the right wingtip toe.  The toe cap should not wrinkle or crease so wear will not disguise this with time.

 

It's probably a personal thing about how much tolerance one has for these things and whether it will bother me over time.  But I'd like to hear what some of you would do if you received these. 

 

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Originally Posted by wigglr View Post

 

I can't comment on the whole thing. But the upper part of the uppers should be fine. 

 

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Originally Posted by kmdsimpson View Post


I know not everyone agrees with me, but for the price they charge for these cordovan webgems, they should be perfect. There's no excuse for not doing a little quality control and a thorough inspection on a $500 - $600 item before it leaves the factory. I don't think that wrinkle will go away, as you say. I also don't know if they can make another pair for you. But if it were me, I would ask.

 

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Originally Posted by gooter View Post

They look fine to me, but if you're not happy send them back. 

edit: keep in mind you're wearing a dead animals skin, it's never going to be perfect

 

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Originally Posted by Winston S. View Post


Agreed. If these were firsts and you paid full price I would be bothered by the crease/bump on the toe. The higher part of the boot near the ankle will probably crease like this anyway.

 

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Originally Posted by MOCKBA View Post

 

The mark on the side would not bother me as it will seemingly happen anyway; that very visible crease on the toe is another matter though. The boot will never naturally crease at that part of the toe cap and thus, that defect will never blend in - it also just happens to be on the most visible part of the boot. My opinion is that you should post them back, especially as these cordovan models cost $600. One of the reasons I continue to spend my money with Allen Edmonds is the phenomenal customer service, I would imagine they will remedy this for you.

 

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Send the Dalton webgem back so that one of us can buy it as a second! biggrin.gif

 

Thanks to all of you for your input.  After sleeping on it, these are going back.  I've heard the "...dead animal skin..." logic but I'm not looking for perfection.  There's lots of dead animal skin out there that is of extreme high quality.  Bottom line is these boots should never have left AE as firsts.  Barely as seconds, and maybe then if the price was right.  Here's another pic of more creasing that I'm not sure would go away with wear.  I could maybe have lived with that but the crease/ridge on the toe medallion was the deal breaker for me.

 

I just don't understand how AE quality control can let stuff like that leave their location.  Not at $600.  I do hope I can get a decent replacement.

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As disappointed as I am with the burgundy shell Dalton experience, I am enjoying my Long Branches today.

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Thanks to all of you for your input.  After sleeping on it, these are going back.  I've heard the "...dead animal skin..." logic but I'm not looking for perfection.  There's lots of dead animal skin out there that is of extreme high quality.  Bottom line is these boots should never have left AE as firsts.  Barely as seconds, and maybe then if the price was right.  Here's another pic of more creasing that I'm not sure would go away with wear.  I could maybe have lived with that but the crease/ridge on the toe medallion was the deal breaker for me.

 

 

I just don't understand how AE quality control can let stuff like that leave their location.  Not at $600.  I do hope I can get a decent replacement.

what size are they? Maybe I can snag them as seconds!

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what size are they? Maybe I can snag them as seconds!

8D.  They'll return via UPS on Monday.

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Originally Posted by BootSpell View Post

As disappointed as I am with the burgundy shell Dalton experience, I am enjoying my Long Branches today.

I put red laces into my North Plattes, and they create a great contrast.  Perfect for foul weather. 

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I have the Long Branch too. Trying to decide whether or not to keep them since I just ordered the Bayfield. Oh decisions. 

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Originally Posted by clarksdb View Post


Are shoe trees really that complicated?

 

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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post


No.
But, strangely enough, the AE full toe trees and AE split toe trees are quite different. I have some of each.

 

I have had experience with both as well.  I have to say that I prefer the full toe trees on my AE models.  I think that there is a misconception that the tree has to fill up every last bit of the shoe.  It doesn't.  It just needs to take up the majority of the space, be large enough to straighten out the shoe and keep it from bowing up, and smooth out the creases on the toe.  My experience with the combination trees is that they are a bit more finnicky and sometimes don't fully expand within the shoe, which isn't a problem with the full toe trees.  I remember someone saying that they didn't think the full toe trees are not as good with 7 lasted shoes as well, but they seem great on my Sanfords. 

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