^^^Thanks for the detailed reply Patrologia. etran27, I think if you follow the guidelines Patrologia described above (along with the always recommended professional measuring from an SA if possible), then you should be ok as long as the shoe is comfortable. If you are still running into trouble after all that, then you may be experiencing a simple case of a shoe last that isn't very compatible with your foot. Such is the plight of people who buy ready-to-wear shoes. My Sanfords, for example, are quite comfortable through the entire shoe, with the exception of the toes being slightly scrunched together. It is simply the way the 7 last fits my foot.
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post #10593 of 21908
10/4/12 at 1:05pm
I have the shell Bradley and am giving some thought to the shell Leeds. They are on the same last - 1. For those of you that have both, did you get the same size? I assume the answer is yes, but thought I'd check.
I was giving some thought to going down one width (D to C) in the Leeds so it looked slightly more streamlined. Thanks in advance for the feedback.
I was giving some thought to going down one width (D to C) in the Leeds so it looked slightly more streamlined. Thanks in advance for the feedback.
post #10594 of 21908
10/4/12 at 1:06pm
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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent 
^^^Thanks for the detailed reply Patrologia. etran27, I think if you follow the guidelines Patrologia described above (along with the always recommended professional measuring from an SA if possible), then you should be ok as long as the shoe is comfortable. If you are still running into trouble after all that, then you may be experiencing a simple case of a shoe last that isn't very compatible with your foot. Such is the plight of people who buy ready-to-wear shoes. My Sanfords, for example, are quite comfortable through the entire shoe, with the exception of the toes being slightly scrunched together. It is simply the way the 7 last fits my foot.

^^^Thanks for the detailed reply Patrologia. etran27, I think if you follow the guidelines Patrologia described above (along with the always recommended professional measuring from an SA if possible), then you should be ok as long as the shoe is comfortable. If you are still running into trouble after all that, then you may be experiencing a simple case of a shoe last that isn't very compatible with your foot. Such is the plight of people who buy ready-to-wear shoes. My Sanfords, for example, are quite comfortable through the entire shoe, with the exception of the toes being slightly scrunched together. It is simply the way the 7 last fits my foot.
Have you ever tried going up 1/2 size?
post #10595 of 21908
10/4/12 at 1:21pm
post #10596 of 21908
10/4/12 at 1:22pm
So far I am a 10.5 D in all my AE's. The SA measured me and said he felt like the 10.5 D Sanford was appropriate, and to tell you the truth, I don't remember how the 11 felt. Of course, you expect a little snugness when the shoes are brand new, so I went with it. They really are comfortable, I can just tell that they are slightly snug.
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10/4/12 at 3:33pm
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10/4/12 at 3:46pm
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Originally Posted by Patrologia 
Yes, the whole shoe will (normally) be more narrow. Most US shoemakers make the heel two letters more narrow than the ball, but do not specify this. Old AE will say COMB indicating this combination last, but they've stopped printing it I believe because it is just standard. Some, like Alden, still print both the ball and heel width in the shoe. A slightly wide shoe would be C/E or E/C depending on how the company arranges it. Standard is B/D.
Standard advice with the 5 last (and it is what I do) is to go a half size shorter and one width wider. My "normal" AE size is 10.5E, so in the 5 last (Park Ave) I take a 10 EE. (Unfortunately that size is not terribly common, so I currently only have one pair of shoes on that last.
EDIT: etran27, I just looked back at your Delray post. before you order ANYTHING else, make sure you know how the shoe ought to fit. As someone has already pretty much said, if you have the shoes on and press your thumb against the widest part on the inside of the shoe you should feel that joint at the base of your big toe - where the elderly among us have bunions
This point on your foot is the ball. The part of the shoe you should press on should be very obvious visually. The part of the foot your thumb is pressing on will also be obvious to you. If you are pressing behind that joint, your shoe is too short. If you are pressing in front of it (basically on the toe) your shoe is too long.

Yes, the whole shoe will (normally) be more narrow. Most US shoemakers make the heel two letters more narrow than the ball, but do not specify this. Old AE will say COMB indicating this combination last, but they've stopped printing it I believe because it is just standard. Some, like Alden, still print both the ball and heel width in the shoe. A slightly wide shoe would be C/E or E/C depending on how the company arranges it. Standard is B/D.
Standard advice with the 5 last (and it is what I do) is to go a half size shorter and one width wider. My "normal" AE size is 10.5E, so in the 5 last (Park Ave) I take a 10 EE. (Unfortunately that size is not terribly common, so I currently only have one pair of shoes on that last.

EDIT: etran27, I just looked back at your Delray post. before you order ANYTHING else, make sure you know how the shoe ought to fit. As someone has already pretty much said, if you have the shoes on and press your thumb against the widest part on the inside of the shoe you should feel that joint at the base of your big toe - where the elderly among us have bunions
This point on your foot is the ball. The part of the shoe you should press on should be very obvious visually. The part of the foot your thumb is pressing on will also be obvious to you. If you are pressing behind that joint, your shoe is too short. If you are pressing in front of it (basically on the toe) your shoe is too long.ahah alright thanks. i think the width of my shoe is fine. but is a little more than an inch of space from the tip of my toe to the end of the shoe too much?
post #10599 of 21908
10/4/12 at 3:58pm
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Not too much.
If the ball of your foot is in the ball of the shoe, then and only then start to worry about the other stuff. I presently have about 2" from the end of my toe to the end of my shoe. I don't honestly know if I could imagine wearing shoes (other than sneakers?) with less than an inch between the end of my toe and the end of the shoe. Dress shoes are cut to come to something of a point, and feet dont. You either have to have empty space up front, or you have to cruch up your toes in a way that is not healthy.
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