@ gooter - I'm on AE's website and I'm flipping back and forth on my browser between the AE PA and the AE Rutledge. From those photos alone, I do notice that the Rutledge has a more slender look compared to the PA and I find the perforations give it a really nice look. Thanks for the suggestion! P.S is yours the brown burnished calf or the walnut burnished calf?
Looks like I'll have to save a bit more money and purchase myself a pair of the black rutledge!! This will be my first pair of nice quality shoe for work while actually putting some thought into it. My first few pairs of shoes while in college were blocky / chunky captoe dockers, pair of Ecco laceless slip on, and now a pair of Alfani.
Gooter's appear to be in burnished brown.
email the shoebank, they may have a pair of seconds in your size. They are only $259 right now through the 9th.