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Originally Posted by zerostyle View Post

Hi all,
On several pairs of shoes I own, I get an ugly billowing near my ankle, as seen below.
Is this simply the result of the shoe being too long for me? Unfortunately I seem to be between sizes - 8.5's in most manufacturers run very tight on me, particularly in the toe box, but are good in length. 9's are usually a touch long but the wider toe box makes them more comfortable. (I just tighten the laces firmly and the shoe won't feel too long for me).
If I press my toes downward in the front shoe it temporarily gets rid of the crease, but then springs right back.
long-shoe.jpg
Anything I can do to fix this? Should I go with 8.5's instead and try to stretch the shoes?

That should not be happening. I have no shoes from any maker that do that, and I wouldn't wear them if they did. Return them. AE has always had great CS.
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Originally Posted by gsm1 View Post

I find that this happens with most of my Allen Edmonds shoes including the Strand, Cambridge and Leeds, all shell cordovan models. The fit is fine and they are comfortable, but the throat of the shoe is sloppy. This has never happened with any of my Aldens, C&Js or Church's. I believe it has something to do with the way AE shoes are constructed, though I I don't know exactly what it could be.

The CEO of AE responded in line to a thread on AAAC that I had posted pictures in about the topline bulge on my Bradley's. Bulging toplines or bowing is still happening from time to time and I believe it is due to manufacturing processes. I agree with sevenfoldtieguy and return mine if they have it. In addition to looking bad they are also loose compared to the ones that are made correctly.

 

Bulging toplines like in the picture could be caused by two things -- 1) not enough time on the last in production so that the toplines don't take the form as well as they should, or 2) too much time in the box on a shelf or, after purchase, in the closet without shoe trees in the shoes. As you probably know, we put a "heel counter" between the lining and the external calfskin of our dress shoes to protect the shape of the heel. We also put what's called a box-toe in front to keep the toe firm and to hold the shape. 

There isn't anything stiff on the sides of the shoes, however, for comfort reasons, so the only thing to hold the shape around the ankle over the long term is the cord-like binding that we sew around the topline. We extended the time we leave shoes on the last 3 years ago, just for this very issue. However, if the shoes get jossled around in transport and then sit awkwardly for months on a shelf in inventory, the shape can get compromised. As you wear them, the shoes also take the shape of your foot and walking, by nature, makes the toplines bulge out as the foot flexes. If the shoes are not a great fit, the bulging as you walk can be exacerbated. Shoe-trees and a couple of days rest in a shoe rotation, can help return the toplines to the tightened look.

Toplines do get tightened somewhat in the Recrafting process. Putting good shoe trees in the shoes and leaving them there is an at-home step that should help. Polishing the shoes with the shoe trees inside and then leaving them to "settle" could be enhance the rebound.

Some of the shoes bought in outlets stores or on e-Bay preceed me in this job. As I've mentioned in other posts, we take quality assurance extremely seriously at AE and have done a number of things over the past 3 years to take it to a higher level, including extending the time that shoes stay on the last in production. The results are evident in our quality control scores internally, and at our most demanding major wholesale customer,Nordstrom. Our scores in the Nordstrom Quality Center are the best they've ever been now and are at levels that they say are unheard of for shoes. We're proud of that, but we remain relentless in our pursuit of perfection.

Thanks for your interest and thanks for your support of Allen Edmonds!


Best wishes,
Paul

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Do we know when the Cronmok/Long Branch boots from a few pages back will be available yet?

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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

That should not be happening. I have no shoes from any maker that do that, and I wouldn't wear them if they did. Return them. AE has always had great CS.

Hmm, I've already had vibram half soles applied and have worn these outside twice. Think they'd still take them back?
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I picked up a pair of Williams. I really like this style due to the 222 last giving the shoe a much sleeker appearance than that of the Macneil. The sole is thicker than some others in the Independence line and is a bit shy of the thickness of double leather, so a good compromise. The leather on these is flawlwss and does seem more supple than that of my other calf AEs, hopefully it wears just as well. I am looking forward to both dressing these up and dressing them down with nice dark jeans and a chunky cardigan - that is the beauty and versatility of a longwing.

 

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Originally Posted by zerostyle View Post


Hmm, I've already had vibram half soles applied and have worn these outside twice. Think they'd still take them back?

 

Talk to them.  If it's a production issue, they will have no qualms about replacing.  If it's an issue with sizing, the shape of your foot and/or how you walk, maybe they can help you avoid this in future shoes.

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Originally Posted by Man Of Lint View Post

That is interesting scruffy. I wouldn't worry about it but I agree it is not attractive. If you feel the toebox with your fingers, you should be able to feel where the plastic insert ends. This will occur before the toe cap stitching. Perhaps AE had not forecasted this when designing the shoe? If they had made the cap stitching lay upon the end of the toebox insert, then the caps would appear as undestructable. You can try giving the caps a high shine to define them on the shoes. This will help asthetically. Make sure you are using shoe trees when the shoes are not in use.

MOL, in having a better look and understanding of things, this is exactly what has happened with the insert not extending far enough back on the shoe.

I have contacted customer service and am sending the shoes back for them to take a look, so fingers crossed...

Thanks again to SF for the advice. It's hard work getting things right from Down Under!!!
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I got a new computer and I can't figure out how to get an image to go on this post.

 

New broadstreets.

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http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i475/Delmar59/IMG_0005.jpg

 

http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i475/Delmar59/IMG_0001-1.jpg

 

We'll see if this works.  My new Broadstreet webgems with cordovan Macneils and cordovan Norwich.  Haven't done any polishing whatsoever on the Broadstreets--just took them out of the box, tried them on, put in shoe trees and picture time.   

 

Sorry about the link instead of pictures--maybe it's because I don't have adobe on this new computer.  I hope the link works.

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http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i475/Delmar59/IMG_0005.jpg

 

http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i475/Delmar59/IMG_0001-1.jpg

 

We'll see if this works.  My new Broadstreet webgems with cordovan Macneils and cordovan Norwich.  Haven't done any polishing whatsoever on the Broadstreets--just took them out of the box, tried them on, put in shoe trees and picture time.   

 

Sorry about the link instead of pictures--maybe it's because I don't have adobe on this new computer.  I hope the link works.

 

Damn, that's a clean car!  btw, very nice shoes as well!!  Enjoy.

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i'm bored and i have nothing to do right now, gonna bust out the merlot mcallisters and give them a proper shine.... will take an hour the way i do it, then i'll be ready for bed

You inspired me yesterday. I went to work and scrubbed these puppies for a while. Introducing the burgundy shell fleet I have succumb to so far! Hope to have a collection of brown someday like this....






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So i placed an order for Delrays in burgundy cordovan with a natural colored sole. My wallet is hating me right now, but i have been digging the 8 last, and i wanted to do something special with this custom order. My SA had to get authorization to see if cordovan was an option, and he got the go ahead. Now i wait for 6-8 weeks, and hopefully have some great pics to share icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
Edited by JubeiSpiegel - 8/16/12 at 4:36am
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You inspired me yesterday. I went to work and scrubbed these puppies for a while. Introducing the burgundy shell fleet I have succumb to so far! Hope to have a collection of brown someday like this.... Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)





Lovely shoes, an inspiring pic indeed...
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how often do people use polish? and when is the best time to apply? before initial wears? Sorry for noob questions, I've never really worn shoes I really really cared about. Ive worn my mcallisters a few times but haven't treated them with anything either.
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