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Is the general consensus to size down half a size and size up a width on AEs on the 5 last?

I have a narrow 11B/C foot (with one of my feet being slightly shorter, to the point where its almost a 10.5)

I'm going to order my first pair of AE park ave's but I won't be able to try them on since I'm ordering from Australia. For reference, I wear 11 in Nike basketball shoes, 11.5 Nike Free Runs, 10D Wolverine 1000 miles & Red Wing Iron Rangers (but with an insole), 10.5 sperrys.

What other lasts work well for narrow feet?

Thanks
post #737 of 70737
2 lasts is very similar to the 5 lasts. for example, lombard runs on the 2 lasts. i go size down on the width and length on the 5 lasts, i m a in between 10.5 and 11, so 11D on 5 lasts gives me a little too much room in the toe but a 10.5E fits me spot on.

for reference, I am usually a 11D on the 7 and 9 lasts
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Originally Posted by lachyzee View Post

Is the general consensus to size down half a size and size up a width on AEs on the 5 last?
I have a narrow 11B/C foot (with one of my feet being slightly shorter, to the point where its almost a 10.5)
I'm going to order my first pair of AE park ave's but I won't be able to try them on since I'm ordering from Australia. For reference, I wear 11 in Nike basketball shoes, 11.5 Nike Free Runs, 10D Wolverine 1000 miles & Red Wing Iron Rangers (but with an insole), 10.5 sperrys.
What other lasts work well for narrow feet?
Thanks

Best to find a store somewhere that may have them and try em on, even if you're not going to buy them. Yeah, not the most ethical thing to do, but we're not all made of pure gold.

If nothing else, wear the socks you'd normally wear with dress shoes and try on a pair of any dress shoe...cole haan, florsheim, etc. and then probably size down 1/2 and width up for the 5 last.
post #739 of 70737
oh also there is a 2 for $200 deal on discontinued factory seconds going on
post #740 of 70737
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Originally Posted by lachyzee View Post

Is the general consensus to size down half a size and size up a width on AEs on the 5 last?
I have a narrow 11B/C foot (with one of my feet being slightly shorter, to the point where its almost a 10.5)
I'm going to order my first pair of AE park ave's but I won't be able to try them on since I'm ordering from Australia. For reference, I wear 11 in Nike basketball shoes, 11.5 Nike Free Runs, 10D Wolverine 1000 miles & Red Wing Iron Rangers (but with an insole), 10.5 sperrys.
What other lasts work well for narrow feet?
Thanks

You can also do a custom order for the Park Avenue on their website. This will allow you to buy different sizes for each foot. Of course, you still need to know what size to get.

http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/cati_Custom+Shoes_1_40000000001_-1_1_image_0_Y_128657_
post #741 of 70737
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Originally Posted by ajmanouk View Post

Best to find a store somewhere that may have them and try em on, even if you're not going to buy them. Yeah, not the most ethical thing to do, but we're not all made of pure gold.
If nothing else, wear the socks you'd normally wear with dress shoes and try on a pair of any dress shoe...cole haan, florsheim, etc. and then probably size down 1/2 and width up for the 5 last.

Thanks, unfortunately nowhere in Aus sells them though!
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Originally Posted by kmdsimpson View Post

You can also do a custom order for the Park Avenue on their website. This will allow you to buy different sizes for each foot. Of course, you still need to know what size to get.
http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/cati_Custom+Shoes_1_40000000001_-1_1_image_0_Y_128657_

Thanks I did see that, not sure my odd sized foot is quite .5 of a size down though, more like .3-.4 which is annoying.

Any other opinions on sizing on the 5 last compared to regular AE sizing?
post #742 of 70737
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Originally Posted by lachyzee View Post

Thanks, unfortunately nowhere in Aus sells them though!
Thanks I did see that, not sure my odd sized foot is quite .5 of a size down though, more like .3-.4 which is annoying.
Any other opinions on sizing on the 5 last compared to regular AE sizing?

Just put one of those insert tabs, that should tighten up the other shoe. nod[1].gif
post #743 of 70737
Alright, last chance to ask this question. So, PLEASE, someone try to answer this. Who makes the AE Italian collection shoes? Specifically the Verona loafer, and if possible, the Tresana from the discontinued Seven line. Some help, i beg of you all... worship2.gif
post #744 of 70737
So the official sizing advice from AE was "the 5 last is long and narrow, therefore size down .5 in length, and go one wider".

This approach seems quite backward to me. Why not just size everything in the range down .5 to make it consistent with the sizing of their other lasts? Especially since AE's three most popular shoes are on the 5 (PAve, 5thAve and Strand). I can imagine a lot of people would find their size in one of these as their first AE, then be befuddled by size discrepancies when they try and buy their next pair if they go to a different last.

It's fine to say that everyone should try things on in-store and I understand that there are very good reasons to have varying lasts, but in the age of online shopping (something which AE seems to have embraced), allowing a size discrepancy that is so large is a bit of an anomaly.

It also doesn't really make sense to say that a last is "long". Given that foot widths are measured in relation to foot lengths, how can someone have a "long" foot? A size 11 is a size 11, it's not a long size 10.5. It's essentially admitting that the last is, simply, mis-measured length wise.

But anyway, who am I to question the higher power.
post #745 of 70737
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Originally Posted by lachyzee View Post

So the official sizing advice from AE was "the 5 last is long and narrow, therefore size down .5 in length, and go one wider".
This approach seems quite backward to me. Why not just size everything in the range down .5 to make it consistent with the sizing of their other lasts? Especially since AE's three most popular shoes are on the 5 (PAve, 5thAve and Strand). I can imagine a lot of people would find their size in one of these as their first AE, then be befuddled by size discrepancies when they try and buy their next pair if they go to a different last.
It's fine to say that everyone should try things on in-store and I understand that there are very good reasons to have varying lasts, but in the age of online shopping (something which AE seems to have embraced), allowing a size discrepancy that is so large is a bit of an anomaly.
It also doesn't really make sense to say that a last is "long". Given that foot widths are measured in relation to foot lengths, how can someone have a "long" foot? A size 11 is a size 11, it's not a long size 10.5. It's essentially admitting that the last is, simply, mis-measured length wise.
But anyway, who am I to question the higher power.

Interesting point. But this is not unique to AE. Alden has lasts that fit a half size larger than other lasts.

I think a lot of it has to do with the width of the shoe at certain points. For example, I can't size down in the 5 last, because the front of my foot is too wide - so I end up having shoes that extend well past my toes. It is a weird thing, and it makes me wonder how it was decided to shape the lasts when they were first designed.
post #746 of 70737
Surely it would make a bit more sense to unify lasts in terms of length at their longest point and width and their widest point and then describe different lasts in terms relative to a "base" last that represents the most average of all feet.

My suggestion would be to then describe the width of different points in the shoe in relation to the heel, midfoot/arch and toe box and how they compare to the "base". I.e you could say a last has a "narrow heel, narrow midfoot but wider toebox".

Then you would have a bit more of an idea of what you were getting into!
post #747 of 70737
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Originally Posted by ajmanouk View Post

oh also there is a 2 for $200 deal on discontinued factory seconds going on

Do you know where you can find the discontinued styles?
post #748 of 70737
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Originally Posted by dieselman89 View Post

Do you know where you can find the discontinued styles?

Yeah, how do you get these? What's left? a mora (especially in brown or chocolate suede) or a soho would be cool but there are other discontinued styles that would be fine at that price.
post #749 of 70737
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Originally Posted by lachyzee View Post

Surely it would make a bit more sense to unify lasts in terms of length at their longest point and width and their widest point and then describe different lasts in terms relative to a "base" last that represents the most average of all feet.
My suggestion would be to then describe the width of different points in the shoe in relation to the heel, midfoot/arch and toe box and how they compare to the "base". I.e you could say a last has a "narrow heel, narrow midfoot but wider toebox".
Then you would have a bit more of an idea of what you were getting into!

I've tried some where I'm fully convinced the manufacturer did not have a human foot in mind when they constructed it.
post #750 of 70737
Rockin' my new Kenilworths. Need some more shine, but I'll take it for now. Love these shoes.

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