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Originally Posted by Spurious View Post

I recently fell in love with AE shoes. Since I know that SF doesnt like to pay full retail on things, where do you get those discounted? Do they have frequent sales?

Factory outlet are discounted as the shoes are factory seconds. In addition, the outlets have frequent sales ranging from 15%-25% off the factory 2nd price. Discontinued models are often 1st quality at the outlets.

I've developed a relationship w/the manager of the Freeport, ME factory outlet. I've yet to get a pair that had a significant defect, in fact in most cases, I can't find anything that would make them a factory 2nd. You just have to inspect carefully as I have asked for a different pair at the store before purchase.

Once you figure out your size in the different lasts, you can order by phone at these outlets as well. Outlets will also email you a list of discontinued models in your size upon request.

I liked one of the discontinued models in the Italian made 'Seven' line. They were priced at $600 new. I paid just over $200 for these and they shipped from the Madison Ave. store. I can't imagine that they stock any factory seconds at that store so these may very well be 1st quality.

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Note, I need to snap some new pics of these as I've achieved a decent mirror shine since these pics were taken. This is the only one I could find that's more recent. AE Tresana on far right:

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Lastly, all of the above AE models were purchased at the outlet as factory 2nds. The brown bal with medallion toe (2nd fr right) is not an AE model.
post #707 of 70737
On an unrelated (and shallow note), I just returned from a national sales meeting in so cal. I couldn't believe the number of awful, beat up, square toed shoes in attendance. Attire was a mix of business and business casual and ages ranged from late 30's to early 60's (most in their 40's). I wonder if this is an example of my industry (biotech) or has all of the united states simply given up (ala George Costanza wearing sweatpants in public). For the most part, the handful of our European counterparts dressed so much better than the 300-ish Americans. I understand that one's attire is no indication of one's job performance but I was really surprised at the terrible shoes, I wonder if I missed the email listing square toed shoes as appropriate (or even mandatory?) for business casual attire smile.gif.

I just had to get that off my chest...I feel much better now. Stepping off soap box and removing my judgement glasses.
post #708 of 70737
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Originally Posted by patrick_b View Post

On an unrelated (and shallow note), I just returned from a national sales meeting in so cal. I couldn't believe the number of awful, beat up, square toed shoes in attendance. Attire was a mix of business and business casual and ages ranged from late 30's to early 60's (most in their 40's). I wonder if this is an example of my industry (biotech) or has all of the united states simply given up (ala George Costanza wearing sweatpants in public). For the most part, the handful of our European counterparts dressed so much better than the 300-ish Americans. I understand that one's attire is no indication of one's job performance but I was really surprised at the terrible shoes, I wonder if I missed the email listing square toed shoes as appropriate (or even mandatory?) for business casual attire smile.gif.
I just had to get that off my chest...I feel much better now. Stepping off soap box and removing my judgement glasses.
PatB, I feel your pain SF bro, you should see my IT/ Comp Eng world...that's why buying AE shooz and putting that wonderful fu*%*@g shine on is therapeutic smile.gif
post #709 of 70737
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Originally Posted by patrick_b View Post

I have a pair that rubbed the back of my ankle raw. Like you, it was almost as if my heel was moving slightly and the friction point was a bit higher. I installed these little sticky pads on the back-top edge of the shoe. It stopped the irritation for long enough that the leather softened a bit. Eventually, the pad lost its adhesive and came un-stuck. But by that time, it didn't cause blisters in that spot.

I've got an old (and pre-SF) pair of AE loafers that do this to my heel. As you noted, the friction point is a little higher than on all of other shoes. I don't think it's that they're too tight - I have a little wiggle room front & back now that they're well-worn in. The friction is caused when my heel hits the ground.

Anyways, these loafers, which were my first pair of high end shoes, have a certain sentimental value, so I'd like to give these pads a try. Do you know where can I find these pads online?
post #710 of 70737
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Originally Posted by Thanks SF (a new me) View Post

IMO and experience, AE = Loake 1880 construction wise but AE leather is better and easier to break in. Although some Loake 1880 designs are preferred.

Thanks for the clarification. I am Euro, so I think I will stick to Loake's, which are almost equally priced.
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Originally Posted by patrick_b View Post

Factory outlet are discounted as the shoes are factory seconds. In addition, the outlets have frequent sales ranging from 15%-25% off the factory 2nd price. Discontinued models are often 1st quality at the outlets.
I've developed a relationship w/the manager of the Freeport, ME factory outlet. I've yet to get a pair that had a significant defect, in fact in most cases, I can't find anything that would make them a factory 2nd. You just have to inspect carefully as I have asked for a different pair at the store before purchase.
Once you figure out your size in the different lasts, you can order by phone at these outlets as well. Outlets will also email you a list of discontinued models in your size upon request.
I liked one of the discontinued models in the Italian made 'Seven' line. They were priced at $600 new. I paid just over $200 for these and they shipped from the Madison Ave. store. I can't imagine that they stock any factory seconds at that store so these may very well be 1st quality.
247
224
Note, I need to snap some new pics of these as I've achieved a decent mirror shine since these pics were taken. This is the only one I could find that's more recent. AE Tresana on far right:
198
Lastly, all of the above AE models were purchased at the outlet as factory 2nds. The brown bal with medallion toe (2nd fr right) is not an AE model.

Thanks for the detailed input, unfortunately I am Euro and the next time I will be in the US is over NYE in Vegas and no AE factory outlet is near.
post #711 of 70737
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Originally Posted by thesecondprize View Post

I've got an old (and pre-SF) pair of AE loafers that do this to my heel. As you noted, the friction point is a little higher than on all of other shoes. I don't think it's that they're too tight - I have a little wiggle room front & back now that they're well-worn in. The friction is caused when my heel hits the ground.
Anyways, these loafers, which were my first pair of high end shoes, have a certain sentimental value, so I'd like to give these pads a try. Do you know where can I find these pads online?

These are the things I'm referring to:

http://www.amazon.com/Rubber-Grips-Shoes-Reduce-Slipping/dp/B0030MUDQQ/ref=pd_sim_misc_5

If the shoe rubs at the top of the rear/heel section, they work pretty well. I found that once the shoe broke in a bit, I no longer needed the soft pad. Hope that helps.
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Originally Posted by Spurious View Post

Thanks for the detailed input, unfortunately I am Euro and the next time I will be in the US is over NYE in Vegas and no AE factory outlet is near.

If you know your size, I don't see why they couldn't ship for you. I've ordered by phone before and if that particular outlet didn't have my size, the store mgr would check to see if there was a pair somewhere else in the network. The shoes would then ship directly to my home. IIRC, shipping may have been free. That may not apply to international shipment, however but it may be worth a phone call. I'm sure any AE outlet can assist you but I'll happily include my local guy's contact info. He's very professional.

Edward Wickham
Allen Edmonds Outlet
32 Main Street
Freeport, ME 04032-1239
(207) 865-6222 ‎
post #713 of 70737
So I bought the bayfield captoe boots on the recent lands' end deal. I sized down a half from my typical sneaker size (sorry I'm not a true MC'er... yet) knowing nothing about AE sizing and just going with standard boot sizing being slightly large. Lengthwise they seem fine, but the toe box area is rather tight width-wise. Will the leather here break in and make it more comfortable or do they simply not fit? I will say, though, that they look awesome and I'm quite pleased in all other respects.
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So i gave a second attempt to get a Patrick_B shine on my Kenilworths. It's late, so i was not able to take outside pics with natural sunlight, but i was pretty pleased with myself this time. So inside lighting will have to do for now.

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As polish master, Patrick_B, suggested. 3 layers of AE brown polish, 3 layers of Kiwi brown polish, brush and buff to taste bigstar[1].gif
Takes some time, but i'm looking forward to wearing these bounce2.gif
post #715 of 70737
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Originally Posted by JubeiSpiegel View Post

So i gave a second attempt to get a Patrick_B shine on my Kenilworths. It's late, so i was not able to take outside pics with natural sunlight, but i was pretty pleased with myself this time. So inside lighting will have to do for now.
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As polish master, Patrick_B, suggested. 3 layers of AE brown polish, 3 layers of Kiwi brown polish, brush and buff to taste bigstar[1].gif
Takes some time, but i'm looking forward to wearing these bounce2.gif

Rock on, great job!
post #716 of 70737
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Originally Posted by anginaprinzmetal View Post

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Originally Posted by reidrothchild View Post

Edit: After looking at this picture more closely, I'm beginning to think that no one should wear skinny jeans, even the fairer sex. Notice how the excessive taper causes the hips of what I'm sure is a waif-thin model to look wide? Just a bit of flair at the ankles would add some balance and mitigate this effect. In sum, skinny jeans are never the best option for anyone; they simply look less awful on attractive women.

WTF are you talking about exactly??
The awfulness of "skinny jeans," obviously; but this is a thread about n
AEs rather than skinny jeans, so I'll leave it at that.
post #717 of 70737
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Originally Posted by patrick_b View Post

If you know your size, I don't see why they couldn't ship for you. I've ordered by phone before and if that particular outlet didn't have my size, the store mgr would check to see if there was a pair somewhere else in the network. The shoes would then ship directly to my home. IIRC, shipping may have been free. That may not apply to international shipment, however but it may be worth a phone call. I'm sure any AE outlet can assist you but I'll happily include my local guy's contact info. He's very professional.
Edward Wickham
Allen Edmonds Outlet
32 Main Street
Freeport, ME 04032-1239
(207) 865-6222 ‎

Thanks once again. I checked shipping on the general AE website and I think it was north of $100, but if I can get a deal with someone specific, he probably ships for less.
post #718 of 70737
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Originally Posted by JubeiSpiegel View Post

So i gave a second attempt to get a Patrick_B shine on my Kenilworths. It's late, so i was not able to take outside pics with natural sunlight, but i was pretty pleased with myself this time. So inside lighting will have to do for now.
416
As polish master, Patrick_B, suggested. 3 layers of AE brown polish, 3 layers of Kiwi brown polish, brush and buff to taste bigstar[1].gif
Takes some time, but i'm looking forward to wearing these bounce2.gif

Looks GREAT! I was surprised at how different the Kenilworth looked with a shine like that. I'm happy to report that I had two different shoe shine guys (at two different airports, BOS and LAX) comment on my shoes last week.
post #719 of 70737
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Originally Posted by VLSI View Post

So I bought the bayfield captoe boots on the recent lands' end deal. I sized down a half from my typical sneaker size (sorry I'm not a true MC'er... yet) knowing nothing about AE sizing and just going with standard boot sizing being slightly large. Lengthwise they seem fine, but the toe box area is rather tight width-wise. Will the leather here break in and make it more comfortable or do they simply not fit? I will say, though, that they look awesome and I'm quite pleased in all other respects.

This is just my opinion but after years of buying footwear that I hoped would stretch or work after break-in [and never quite did], I'm firmly in the camp where shoes must fit well out of the box for me to buy them. With that said, some shoes and boots do require break-in. Therefore you have to figure out for yourself if the boot needs to break-in or is in fact too small in the toe box.

The way I figured this out is ensuring I have adequate width/room in the toe box. My feet run a bit wide so if my toes feel crunched into the toe box, I won't buy them or will go up a width. If I feel pressure where the toe box creases but there is room for my toes to move, they typically just need break-in. If it's a toss-up, or I'm trying to convince myself that they fit...they typically don't...and I'm trying to take advantage of a good deal or sale. This always ends badly for me.

Lastly, I don't always follow my own advice. I'm currently sitting on a pair of gorgeous AE Westchester's in walnut (with a GREAT shine) that I've worn a half dozen times that are not quite wide enough for my right foot. I bought them last summer during the outlet's 25% off sale. I haven't decided weather to get them stretched or just sell them. Either way, it was an impulse purchase on which I should have passed.

Westchester loafer on left:

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post #720 of 70737
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Originally Posted by patrick_b View Post

This is just my opinion but after years of buying footwear that I hoped would stretch or work after break-in [and never quite did], I'm firmly in the camp where shoes must fit well out of the box for me to buy them. With that said, some shoes and boots do require break-in. Therefore you have to figure out for yourself if the boot needs to break-in or is in fact too small in the toe box.
The way I figured this out is ensuring I have adequate width/room in the toe box. My feet run a bit wide so if my toes feel crunched into the toe box, I won't buy them or will go up a width. If I feel pressure where the toe box creases but there is room for my toes to move, they typically just need break-in. If it's a toss-up, or I'm trying to convince myself that they fit...they typically don't...and I'm trying to take advantage of a good deal or sale. This always ends badly for me.
Lastly, I don't always follow my own advice. I'm currently sitting on a pair of gorgeous AE Westchester's in walnut (with a GREAT shine) that I've worn a half dozen times that are not quite wide enough for my right foot. I bought them last summer during the outlet's 25% off sale. I haven't decided weather to get them stretched or just sell them. Either way, it was an impulse purchase on which I should have passed.
Westchester loafer on left:
407

I feel your pain, I'm looking at the AE verona loafer, the 10 EEE is a little tight but no movement on the heel. The 10.5 EEE fits comfortably, but the heel wants to slip a little. Not sure if with time the loafers will stretch, or of they will stay relatively the same.
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