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So the Leiden...this is the selling point? exposed leather edge?  So....not including the piping which they reduced to basically zero on the mcneil 2.0 is a big deal? I am not sure how I get marketing a single sole longwing with a lower wing profile and half wheeled welt as being the answer to wearing with jeans? Does single leather sole make rolled up pants and no socks more casual...I really do not know what I am missing in all of this. I mean if you want to scream casual then put this on the 606 last which is a broader toe.

 

 

 

From AE site

"but we’ve taken a chance of our own by taking the classic English banker’s shoe and giving the collar a ring of exposed leather. This venture pays off handsomely as this detail of intricate craftsmanship provides a stunning artistic focal point, especially when you take a fashion risk of your own and sport these with rolled up pants and without socks. "

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Originally Posted by Kahuna75 View Post

So the Leiden...this is the selling point? exposed leather edge?  So....not including the piping which they reduced to basically zero on the mcneil 2.0 is a big deal? I am not sure how I get marketing a single sole longwing with a lower wing profile and half wheeled welt as being the answer to wearing with jeans? Does single leather sole make rolled up pants and no socks more casual...I really do not know what I am missing in all of this. I mean if you want to scream casual then put this on the 606 last which is a broader toe.



From AE site
"but we’ve taken a chance of our own by taking the classic English banker’s shoe and giving the collar a ring of exposed leather. This venture pays off handsomely as this detail of intricate craftsmanship provides a stunning artistic focal point, especially when you take a fashion risk of your own and sport these with rolled up pants and without socks. "
That caught my attention as being odd too.
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So the Leiden...this is the selling point? exposed leather edge?  So....not including the piping which they reduced to basically zero on the mcneil 2.0 is a big deal? I am not sure how I get marketing a single sole longwing with a lower wing profile and half wheeled welt as being the answer to wearing with jeans? Does single leather sole make rolled up pants and no socks more casual...I really do not know what I am missing in all of this. I mean if you want to scream casual then put this on the 606 last which is a broader toe.

 

 

 

From AE site

"but we’ve taken a chance of our own by taking the classic English banker’s shoe and giving the collar a ring of exposed leather. This venture pays off handsomely as this detail of intricate craftsmanship provides a stunning artistic focal point, especially when you take a fashion risk of your own and sport these with rolled up pants and without socks. "

 

Equally confusing is their attempt to position this as the English Bankers Shoe... when they had/have a shoe called The City, which is named for the banking district in London.  

 

I also know zero English bankers (in City) that wear AE (much less longwings at the office).  Small sample size... but still.

 

Seems me that they are now marketing to people that think they are discerning... :facepalm:

 

That said, I'm glad this isn't labeled an anything "2.0"... they're not selling software in the 2000's. </rant>

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It is bad marketing-speak (along with more than a little hyperbole) for taking a style/design chance.
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Blue Banchorys today.

I like the look of these!

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Wearing my new First Aves today. I had expected them to fit nice and snug like my Freiburgs, but the actually feel significantly roomier.

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Wearing my new First Aves today. I had expected them to fit nice and snug like my Freiburgs, but the actually feel significantly roomier.
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the color looks fantastic...very deep and rich looking - congrats

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These don't even look like the Pine River anymore! I'm thinking "Mora 3.5" lol... They seemed a little dressy until i pulled the painter's tape. Almost seamless transition from upper to welt. Like the contrast from upper to sole with light stitching. May have to retape and apply super thin layer of acrylic to upper so as to avoid any bleed down to the sole (polishing will have to be with mostly neutral polish I'm thinking). I like these. Any thoughts on the color? It changes depending on lighting it seems.
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I love the pine river and wish I had one. @Indyoshi68  you did a great job...congrats! I am a sucker for blue shoes and boots and those are terrific

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These don't even look like the Pine River anymore! I'm thinking "Mora 3.5" lol... They seemed a little dressy until i pulled the painter's tape. Almost seamless transition from upper to welt. Like the contrast from upper to sole with light stitching. May have to retape and apply super thin layer of acrylic to upper so as to avoid any bleed down to the sole (polishing will have to be with mostly neutral polish I'm thinking). I like these. Any thoughts on the color? It changes depending on lighting it seems.

Great navy color for the most part, though the toe caps look a little green in that last pic.
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the color looks fantastic...very deep and rich looking - congrats

Thanks, I was a little wary at first because it's not very even, but I'm getting used to it.
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I love the pine river and wish I had one. @Indyoshi68
  you did a great job...congrats! I am a sucker for blue shoes and boots and those are terrific
Thanks Kahuna! I know you have an A+ shoe game so that's a real compliment coming from you. I credit Dale's navy shell makeup, the Navy shell Dalton from the 2014 trunk show and peppercorn's new navy shell Carmina for sending me in this direction.
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Originally Posted by Indyoshi68 View Post

These don't even look like the Pine River anymore! I'm thinking "Mora 3.5" lol... They seemed a little dressy until i pulled the painter's tape. Almost seamless transition from upper to welt. Like the contrast from upper to sole with light stitching. May have to retape and apply super thin layer of acrylic to upper so as to avoid any bleed down to the sole (polishing will have to be with mostly neutral polish I'm thinking). I like these. Any thoughts on the color? It changes depending on lighting it seems.

Great navy color for the most part, though the toe caps look a little green in that last pic.
Funny you say that scarlet; i used a very tiny amount of yellow to tone down the almost electric blue i used. I don't see it though. Could be lighting; could be you have an INCREDIBLE eye for color! It should be apparent throughout the shoe though. Thanks for the feedback, scarlet - duly noted!
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Very nice looking shoes. If you wear suits or wool trousers often, go for it.

 

therein lies the problem...wear suits maybe twice a year, wool trousers maybe 20% of the time.  mostly in chinos...not quite sure the cornwallis goes with that.

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Blue Banchorys today.

I *really* like those, and sad I missed them whenever they were available.  A quick search told me I shouldn't hold out much hope of finding a pair...  :(

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Originally Posted by Kahuna75 View Post
 

So the Leiden...this is the selling point? exposed leather edge?  So....not including the piping which they reduced to basically zero on the mcneil 2.0 is a big deal? I am not sure how I get marketing a single sole longwing with a lower wing profile and half wheeled welt as being the answer to wearing with jeans? Does single leather sole make rolled up pants and no socks more casual...I really do not know what I am missing in all of this. I mean if you want to scream casual then put this on the 606 last which is a broader toe.

 

 

 

From AE site

"but we’ve taken a chance of our own by taking the classic English banker’s shoe and giving the collar a ring of exposed leather. This venture pays off handsomely as this detail of intricate craftsmanship provides a stunning artistic focal point, especially when you take a fashion risk of your own and sport these with rolled up pants and without socks. "

Looking at the longwings side by side, they have streamlined the look of the lieden by taking the broguing on the bottom back at a flatter angle. The bottom broguing is down below the midpoint of the shoe. While in the MacNeil, the broguing comes all the way up to the top. The medallions on the 1st three look the same. details on the McGregor and the Larchmont look similar. My take is that if you need a longwing, you're probably not going for sleek anyway, but if you are and the 333 last works for you, save a bunch of money and get the larchmont.

 

If I was buying for jeans, I'd get McGregors with Dainite.

 

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