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After several purchases over a too short span of time, I decided that I needed to take a break.
Yesterday, I saw that they put a shoe on clearance that I've been wanting for a while (the McGregor with Danite sole).
And today, I saw it on Shoebank in the color I wanted.
Must. resist. temptation.
Perhaps I could start a "go fund me" campaign?
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What's your process if you don't mind me asking?

 

Nothing strange. I brush them clean, occasionally hit them with some Bick 4 -- though I hadn't done that when this pic was taken. For polish I use AE Walnut polish in a very thin coat, let it dry for 15 minutes then rub it off with a soft cloth. If I want more patina avoid the seams with the cloth at this stage and put just a little black on them, so I get a combination of black and walnut. Let it dry then rub the seams until the color is how I like it.

 

After rubbing most of the polish off with a cloth I hit it with the brush, then to finish rub it lovingly with a soft cloth until it has a nice sheen. The leather in these shoes seems to take a more satiny polish than in my other shoes, but I like how it looks so I stop there. It's super easy. Other than waiting for the polish to dry it takes me about 5 minutes of work each shoe.

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Originally Posted by Moose22 View Post

Nothing strange. I brush them clean, occasionally hit them with some Bick 4 -- though I hadn't done that when this pic was taken. For polish I use AE Walnut polish in a very thin coat, let it dry for 15 minutes then rub it off with a soft cloth. If I want more patina avoid the seams with the cloth at this stage and put just a little black on them, so I get a combination of black and walnut. Let it dry then rub the seams until the color is how I like it.

After rubbing most of the polish off with a cloth I hit it with the brush, then to finish rub it lovingly with a soft cloth until it has a nice sheen. The leather in these shoes seems to take a more satiny polish than in my other shoes, but I like how it looks so I stop there. It's super easy. Other than waiting for the polish to dry it takes me about 5 minutes of work each shoe.

Did you take any of the original burnish off?
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Did you take any of the original burnish off?


Not on purpose, but the walnut and some rubbing took a bit if it off from how it was new. After about 2 more polishes it was getting a little bland so I started adding back some black.

 

Mine came damned near perfect from the shoebank. Others seemed to have had more burnishing. I think one person, who had extreme burnish, was able to calm the contrast using 91% isopropyl and a little careful rubbing. I've used that to strip old polish on a different shoe and it worked a treat while still being pretty mild. It takes a while, but if you're patient it'll do the trick. Add the moisture back with some Bick4 after and polish again as normal.

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Thanks for the replies to this. I realized after posting this, that I had done plenty of research and just need to jump in and give it a shot.

 

I'll skip the minor details like number of coats, wait time, brushing, polishing, edge dressing, etc....

Daltons got treated with Bick 4, then coats of AE bourbon polish everywhere, followed by lighter coats of navy on the toe and heel. 

First Aves got Bick 4, coats of cognac everywhere, brown and then navy on toe and heel.

 

I am very happy with both! The Daltons developed a deeper color and will only get better with future treatments. (My goal is an almost bourbon Dalton, with a chili edge, minus the need to sand black edges.)

The First Aves developed a rich honey color that, IMO, will allow them to be worn more formally than with walnut.

 

Here are the Daltons. First Aves maybe on Monday. Happy Friday, everyone!

 

 

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Beautiful results. I'll have to remember that polish combo if I ever get a pair of walnut shoes.

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Congrats. What kind of sole is on these? I'm asking because grain is pretty hardy in the rain.

Dainite sole - that's one of the reasons I picked them up. I thought grain and Dainite would be perfect for rainy days.

Chris
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Better pics of the new Brown Grain MacNeil 2.0

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Not sure if posted, but Mcgregor (first quality) on clearance for $199 via AE's main site. 

 

Rubber (danite), which is ideal for the upcoming winter. 

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Shoe bank has the Fort Collins shoe for $117 in bourbon. Never seen this shoe before

Edit, reminds me of the kenilworth but it's on the 333 last
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Originally Posted by mreams99 View Post

After several purchases over a too short span of time, I decided that I needed to take a break.
Yesterday, I saw that they put a shoe on clearance that I've been wanting for a while (the McGregor with Danite sole).
And today, I saw it on Shoebank in the color I wanted.
Must. resist. temptation.
Perhaps I could start a "go fund me" campaign?

It was posted that there will be another shoebank sale on Feb 1st:)
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Shawnc those were the bnib Patriots right? I had my eye on them as well. Sold for less than I thought but AE just isn't the fashion brand Alden is. I almost got in there but didn't want to take a big loss if the last didn't work for me. I did buy a less expensive pair in brown shell though though... I'll let you now if those don't work!

Hey makewayhomer. Last time, but thanks again for the unicorns. Still my favorite pair of footwear. Yes, mine were the BNIB patriots. There were close to 50 bids so I figured I was competing against a few fellow SF'ers. I worried about fit as well but have been searching for this shoe for so long that I was willing to take the risk. They definitely went for less than expected and to your point, I was watching these and a pair of used whiskey Aldens for 3-4 days and I kept going back and forth on which ones I was going to take a run at. The Aldens ended up going for $400 more than the patriots. Fortunately for me I employed a strategy that I rarely use. I asked my wife for her opinion on which pair of $700 shoes she thought I should buy. Without much thought, she immediately picked the patriots. And so far, no negative blowback (valentines day is approaching and I have a hunch that there's a link). Another example to your point is contained in my signature. I have reduced the price of the Dalton's to $500. If the shoes as-is were branded as Alden, they would have immediately sold for $700+. I like my Aldens but it's a phenomenon that I don't quite understand.

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They look fantastic, congrats again.


My Strands are on the lighter side of brown and have a bunch of variation between panels. I love them and really need to wear them more often. 





I will admit that my tastes typically lean towards Alden, but the strand is at the top of my list. I really like the variation in yours.

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Very jealous.  I'd love a pair of loafers in natural or whiskey shell.  I love my natty shell Daltons.


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What color are these strands? They are such a beautiful olive tone.


Thanks guys. Feel very fortunate to score both of them. The strand color is walnut. Similar to some Alden ravello shades. Most that I've seen develop a real nice olive tone over time. As you observed, these have it right out of the box.

 



Those are some great scores on some rare makeups!

Thanks csmitty. Definitely a good week for me.
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Originally Posted by 7_rocket View Post

Shoe bank has the Fort Collins shoe for $117 in bourbon. Never seen this shoe before

Edit, reminds me of the kenilworth but it's on the 333 last

It's a Flatiron without the medallion. They were a Nordstrom exclusive, like Clifton.
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Hey makewayhomer. Last time, but thanks again for the unicorns. Still my favorite pair of footwear. Yes, mine were the BNIB patriots. There were close to 50 bids so I figured I was competing against a few fellow SF'ers. I worried about fit as well but have been searching for this shoe for so long that I was willing to take the risk. They definitely went for less than expected and to your point, I was watching these and a pair of used whiskey Aldens for 3-4 days and I kept going back and forth on which ones I was going to take a run at. The Aldens ended up going for $400 more than the patriots. Fortunately for me I employed a strategy that I rarely use. I asked my wife for her opinion on which pair of $700 shoes she thought I should buy. Without much thought, she immediately picked the patriots. And so far, no negative blowback (valentines day is approaching and I have a hunch that there's a link). Another example to your point is contained in my signature. I have reduced the price of the Dalton's to $500. If the shoes as-is were branded as Alden, they would have immediately sold for $700+. I like my Aldens but it's a phenomenon that I don't quite understand.
I will admit that my tastes typically lean towards Alden, but the strand is at the top of my list. I really like the variation in yours.
Thanks csmitty. Definitely a good week for me.

Yeah, Aldens are definitely awesome, and definitely a step up from AE, but also no better than Crockett and Jones, Vass, or Alfred Sargent, yet they are priced higher at retail and much higher on the secondary markets. The only explanation for the brand's overspeculation must be that they have a fanatic cult following among fashion conscious urban lumberjack / hipster types, especially the boots and blucher models. Maybe the association with J Crew, and woodcutter-type retailers like Kafka, Unionmade, etc has fueled the image. You don't really see too many of their dressier shoes on eBay that often.

Plus, they constrain their supply output and are very secretive and upredictible and restrictive with their makeups and timetables, so I'm sure that advances the mystique. People like to own stuff that's hard to find. smile.gif

Meanwhile, the products themselves are terrific...
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So, exactly what color is Bourbon?

 

I fell in love with it when I saw it in a store. It seemed like a more golden color than walnut, but still on the light side. Somehow it matched a lot more fabrics, too. So, I snagged a pair of Flatirons when it went away because I thought I'd never get a chance again -- though I had decided on Larchmont as I think the Bourbon looks better on a semi-brogue or wingtip, the last pair was literally sold between when I searched and when I clicked Add to Cart -- and have posted a picture of them here.

 

Anyway, just after I was convinced to keep the odd pair of Flatirons, some Larchmonts appeared on the website again. I saw them as I was browsing while waiting to talk to a customer service person. Anyway, AE was very accommodating and somehow I ended up buying the Larchmonts I had originally wanted.

 

So, here's what I got:

 

 

 

 

I threw in one of the flatirons to show the comparison in color. It is significantly darker. In indirect lighting, it looks like a dark brown shoe, and even in full sun it looks like medium-dark brown with a gold/green hue more than the walnut with a golden hue I expected from bourbon.

 

I bet Bourbon is going away because AE just can't do it right to a consistent color and quality!

 

Anyway, this is an unexpected color. Pretty unique, too, and the lights don't show it well as they're just crappy incandescents. In full sun they have a sort of olive/brown tint to them as opposed to the chocolate brown you normally see in the dark brown leathers. And the pattern of the burnishing is pleasing. They just aren't anything near what I'd expect from the color bourbon. They're keepers if they fit, as their real flaws are just some ugly stitching and bad shaping on the soles and I'm not convinced AE can actually make a shoe any better. And I'll be the only one to have this color, I guess.

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Originally Posted by Moose22 View Post

So, exactly what color is Bourbon?

I fell in love with it when I saw it in a store. It seemed like a more golden color than walnut, but still on the light side. Somehow it matched a lot more fabrics, too. So, I snagged a pair of Flatirons when it went away because I thought I'd never get a chance again -- though I had decided on Larchmont as I think the Bourbon looks better on a semi-brogue or wingtip, the last pair was literally sold between when I searched and when I clicked Add to Cart -- and have posted a picture of them here.

Anyway, just after I was convinced to keep the odd pair of Flatirons, some Larchmonts appeared on the website again. I saw them as I was browsing while waiting to talk to a customer service person. Anyway, AE was very accommodating and somehow I ended up buying the Larchmonts I had originally wanted.

So, here's what I got:










I threw in one of the flatirons to show the comparison in color. It is significantly darker. In indirect lighting, it looks like a dark brown shoe, and even in full sun it looks like medium-dark brown with a gold/green hue more than the walnut with a golden hue I expected from bourbon.

I bet Bourbon is going away because AE just can't do it right to a consistent color and quality!

That's what I've deduced it to, as well..it's pretty obvious once you add all the signs together. People can claim that Dark Chili or Oxblood are burnished all they want. But the reality is that you rarely hear (and I personally have never heard) of "tiger striping" on Dark Chili or Oxblood shoes. I've had a couple of different AE sales associates tell me that Dark Chili isn't a burnished color at all. And Oxblood doesn't have a reputation for being streaky or uneven. Like you, I think had AE kept the bourbon color, they would begin running the risk of an exponential increase in customer complaints and returns due to inconsistent finishing. Ultimately, it was probably cheaper to just scrap the Bourbon color, than to keep refunding people for flawed shoes that probably wouldn't be able to be resold anyway. And thus so marked the end of AE Bourbon...and what a great run it had. When done right, it was the most univerally perfect color AE offered, in my opinion
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Not sure if posted, but Mcgregor (first quality) on clearance for $199 via AE's main site. 

 

Rubber (danite), which is ideal for the upcoming winter. 


I didn't wait long enough. I bit on the leather sole McGs and would have rather had the dainite. I said the other day that I would wait until after the winter to clearance those. I guess AE doesn't think the way I do, or getting rid of them fast while the weather is still foul is a priority for some reason.

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