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For those eyeing the McTavish Distressed Brown for $77, just for reference here is the pair of seconds I picked up during one of the sales:

 



Believe it or not, I have gotten more compliments on these than I have gotten collectively on my shoes from the Independence line.

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For those eyeing the McTavish Distressed Brown for $77, just for reference here is the pair of seconds I picked up during one of the sales:


Believe it or not, I have gotten more complements on these than I have gotten collectively on my shoes from the Independence line.

 

Probably because the contrast stitching grabs attention. My Rush Streets do the same.

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Dear Lord,

 

Please protect my wallet today.

 

Amen.




This is killing me. So tempted by the Dark Chocolate ones. Arrrrrrgh! Why does the kid need braces?

I would have jumped on a couple of others if they had the colors I want. Love that Odenwald at $155, but it's only for black. Neumoks at $145 is pretty decent, but I'd rather go with blue than brown. 

Outside of the Daltons, there's really nothing that jumps out at me for my rotation.

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Gents I need some insight, bit frustrated.  I ordered a pair of Macneil Shells before the Holidays and I received them today.  The Craftsmanship is embarrassing to me.  Spots where they started to sew the shell made a mistake and undid it, the wing is hanging on like a chad, and parts of the shell won't sit flat with the shoe.  

 

Am I over reacting here?  

 

Some pics. Again these are First Quals. 

 

 

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That's pretty bad. The "bumpy" shell is not really an issue - that seems to be typical of shell on the blucher eyestays on many shell shoes, and I woudn't necessarily say it's a defect. The stitching on the side is a bit annoying but not necessarily out of character for firsts. The hanging chad wingtip tip thing is really really bad, though. I would definitely reach out to AE customer service about this.

 

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Unfortunately, this seems to be typical of Allen Edmonds these days. I had two pair of shell come in last year like this that they made for me in a non-stock size. They were my last pairs as I just feel like the quality of the product has plummeted while the prices are going up.

 

I agree. I have sold 75-80% of my AE shoes over the past 6 months or so, and have not bought anything new in a long time. While I don't necessarily attribute all of it to a decline in quality, I certainly find myself looking at the AE website and not being excited about any models whatsoever.

 

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Wow. I've been on a spending halt for over a year with no purchases. To help facilitate that I have been on the forum only a handful of times in the past year. After recently logging back on I hate to see AE putting this type of stuff out as first quality. I honestly have many shell 2nds that are MUCH MUCH higher quality than these. No question, I would send them back as well as email the CEO (Paul Grangaard) a picture and ask him what's up. Him and I have actually emailed back and forth several times over the last few years concerning issues I've had with Allen Edmonds. He's always been polite and very candid about quality control and policy issues.

 

Paul is a great guy, and very responsive to customer concerns. If AE didn't have such excellent customer service, I would hesitate to recommend their shoes to anyone due to their recent quality control issues, but they do try very hard to make things right. It's just a shame that they seem to be having to "make things right" much more often than they used to.

 

Even though I find myself buying mostly Alden, Vass, and Carmina these days, those companies can't even begin to touch the level of customer service that AE offers. Alden doesn't care about any problems you might have, Vass is very responsive to customer complaints but tends to rely on the handmade nature of their shoes as a crutch against maintaining more strict QC standards, and Carmina is usually quite dismissive of customer complaints.

 

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I read somewhere that the acquisition of AE by the Brentwood Associates a couple of years ago could have something to do with the lowered product quality. Not sure how true that is though. I will say though that the quality of the leather bags appears to be leagues better than the quality of the shoes these days.

 

Their leather bags are excellent. I only really buy AE belts these days, and even those are hit or miss (many belts have "flaking" leather and cracking in the finishing within a few wears, but are always replaced free of charge).

 

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My pair of macneil which I purchased through Club Monaco had similar issues and I was told by AE that this is caused by burnishing wheel. Club Monaco didn't have a replacement pair in my size so they offered me some discount which I accepted. I don't even notice this issue anymore..

 

AE blames a lot of things on the burnishing wheel (tiger striping included). If the burnishing wheel is to blame, they should hand-burnish the shoes. Probably costs them less in the long run, when you consider all the shoes that are ruined or downgraded to seconds by the burnishing wheel.

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I've been keeping an eye out for a pair of casual black (blasphemy!) shoes as well as a pair of black (blasphemy!) boots. Looks like I killed two birds with one shoe:



I'm pretty lenient when it comes to seconds, but I hope there's nothing too wrong with these!
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This is killing me. So tempted by the Dark Chocolate ones. Arrrrrrgh! Why does the kid need braces?

I would have jumped on a couple of others if they had the colors I want. Love that Odenwald at $155, but it's only for black. Neumoks at $145 is pretty decent, but I'd rather go with blue than brown. 

Outside of the Daltons, there's really nothing that jumps out at me for my rotation.


I know, I know!  I'm not even really a boot guy (tried the Dalton and Long Branch a year ago and loved the shorter Bleecker St) but the Chocolate color looks amazing.  :drool:

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Anyone deal with annoying squeaks well past the point of breaking-in a pair of AEs? All of my balmoral AEs are on the same last and size and only one pair has this issue: my vernons. They fit well, albeit maaaybe just a tiny bit tighter than the others but still very comfortable. However, the insole and inside sides of the shoe squeak against my socks every time I wear them. This happens mostly around the area of the arch so I can't resolve this with felt. It's almost like the inside leather is a slightly different smoothness of leather than usual. I can replicate the issue when I'm not moving, so it's not brought on by flex/movement. Driving me nuts and very disappointing as this is one of my favorite pairs and is reaosnably comfortable. I've tried cleaning and conditioning the leather inside the shoe but this did nothing. Anyone?
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@YoungSweet

I did a search for Allen Edmonds University and your image popped up, you have it in bourbon. Would you say the university is sleek? I know it's on the 333 last
I liked them, the u wings are not common and I got plenty of compliments. It's not everyone's cup of tea I can tell you that. I sold them last year since they didn't fit well.
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Anyone have experience with McGregor? It seems like they're not all that popular here but I like them as a casual blucher wingtip. Haven't seen in person though.

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@shoosensuits My Aberdeen, black hills, Maxfield, Dalton and one of my two pairs of nashuas squueked. Black hills, Maxfield, and Nashua still do to this day - all 1st quality.
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Anyone have experience with McGregor? It seems like they're not all that popular here but I like them as a casual blucher wingtip. Haven't seen in person though.

Just posted mine the other day, but I'll repost. I don't like them on the shelf, but I do on the feet, especially with flannel and tweed. Being single sole, I would probably consider the MacNeil if you want something to go with jeans. I will say that the wing on mine is not quite as broad and does not go quite as high in the rear as those pictured on AE's site. They end a little over halfway between heel and bottom of the top pinking. However, while wearing them with trousers, this didn't bother me in the least, because my trousers don't cover the top of the wing this way while standing still. 

 

 

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I think I just said yesterday that I wouldn't get the merlot McAllister until later this year. They have the tap sole version in my size, and now I'm conflicted about whether to buy a new pair of trousers and jacket for my birthday today or shoes. ARG!

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Just picked up a pair of Walnut Rutledges on the shoe bank for $177, full retail is $495.  

 

Anyone have experience with these?

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I'm liking the bourbon double monks (mora 2). It's a EEE size tho.
The E width on the 65 last is too tight for me so I'm either a EE or even a EEE on the 65.
Will the EEE Moras be too big for me? They don't have EE.
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