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Originally Posted by Jackboot View Post

Any information on the Allen Edmonds (or is it Rancourt) HAYDEN?

Here is a link to a pair on eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281906768138

At first I assumed that the seller did not know what they were talking about, but now I'm not sure.

The shoes are definitely labeled HAYDEN by AE on the footbed. But the soles are Lactae Hevea, and AE does not use this sole on any other shoe AFAIK. Rancourt, however, uses this sole frequently. Most importantly, the style of the shoe is a Rancourt style (which I own):

http://www.rancourtandcompany.com/men-s/boots/bedford-chukka-walnut-suede.html

So what's the story with these shoes? I wonder if AE flirted with the idea of having handstitched shoes made by Rancourt rather than in the Dominican Republic?

That is the weirdest thing I have seen yet...Do not know anything about - thanks for pointing it out-appears they were for sale at one point at 6pm

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Originally Posted by sruchris View Post
 

 

The Bourbon Dalton is currently $257 on Shoe Bank and $327 on the AE Closeout sale. If either one drops significantly, I'm pulling the trigger. 

 

$257 isn't bad. When I purchased my Walnut pair, they were on sale for something ridiculous like $207.

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Originally Posted by PerCC View Post
 

 

I have the strange situation where my local AE here in Charlotte, NC is directly next to a BB (they share a wall). I as well am an 8.5E in the 5 last and I went on in to both stores to compare how the BB models fits compared to the standard AE. BB did not have E widths in the store so I tried on 9Ds in both stores, which should be close to the 8.5E width.

 

I have a high instep and the BB ones with the poron insoles fit much tighter, too tight in fact. I thought I would like the insole but I much prefer the standard AEs without it. In order to fit it in you'll most likely have to size up to an 8.5EEE or a 9E, but unfortunately its hard to tell exactly which one would be correct for you since every foot is different.


Thanks, I was going to buy some MacNeils from Shoebank or other, maybe I'll take my chance and hope their 8.5E in this last will also fit.  Thanks a lot.

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I had a pair of BB shoes and as others have mentioned, it does fit slightly tighter than your regular AE but nothing to make me size up.
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Originally Posted by Dario65 View Post

Perhaps a stupid question: why does AE refer to some shoes as "oxfords" when they are clearly bluchers/derbys? For example, the Rogue and the Oak Street are both called Oxfords. There are a few others as well. Are they using a different definition for oxford?



 



 



I know this was already answered here, but I was curious to see what Allen Edmonds would say about this question. Here was their response:

http://www.allenedmonds.com/rough-collection/oak-street-cap-toe-oxfords/SF4030.html?dwvar_SF4030_color=4031#sz=18&start=8

The meaning of Oxford can vary geographically and in general an Oxford can be classified as a Balmoral and a Derby as a Blucher. However, historically Oxfords are defined as any lace-up dress shoe with a low heel that can include both Balmorals or Bluchers. At this time, we use the latter to categorize most of our dress shoes online.

Please feel free to contact us with any additional questions.
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Originally Posted by Murlsquirl View Post

Moved you post over here @MitchConner
 so the AE fanboys can help you out.

I appreciate the help. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by jet-stream View Post

MC, definitely head to the store. While some of us may snipe at AE quality control from time to time, it's hard to find issue with their customer service. If they helped size you and sold to you, I would be flabbergasted if they didn't help make it right.
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Originally Posted by Dario65 View Post

Agree I would go to the store. I've just learned recently how to measure and fit my foot. Everybody measuring me has been getting it wrong. If you're a 12+ on a Brannock device I wouldn't bother with anything shorter. I would try fitting the Longbranch to your Brannock ball measurement and see how that feels. My length is between 9.5 and 10. I'm fitting well into a Longbranch 11 EEE. Brannock has my ball measurement as a 10.5EEE - 11EE. 

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Originally Posted by tharkun View Post

Like everyone already said they should be able to help you. I have had them refund shoes that I had worn more than a month because they just wouldn't get comfortable at the pinky toe. Twice. And these were online orders (since I'm nowhere near a store).

I have worn ~8 E comfortably (actually it was a 40EU wide) but my AE Sauk Drive didn't get wearable until I tried them in 9.5 3E.

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Originally Posted by ace13x View Post


Like everyone else,  see what AE can do for you.   My experience may not apply well to you since my foot is smaller, but I fit fine in a Dalton 8D (511 last same as Long Branch), but the Sauk Drives I just got, also in an 8D (201 last), is more roomier in the toes, but everything else is the same as my Daltons.

Thanks guys. I went to an AE store. They stretched the right toe box area for 3 days. It seems to be better now, as long as I tie the laces very specifically, leaving it loose up front but making it tight towards the top.

Now if I could figure out what socks to wear to minimize blisters in the back, I'll be set.
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Originally Posted by hohneokc View Post

Chocolate Daltons with some flannel today
Dude, I thought my Bourbon Daltons looked good, but wow.
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Originally Posted by middlepP View Post
 

Think I saw the 14th.

 

Edit: Isn't AE closing out all bourbon shoes? If so, I wonder if the current closeout sale (you can sort for these models on shoebank site) will be same or better than the flash sale.

 

 

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Originally Posted by sruchris View Post
 

 

The Bourbon Dalton is currently $257 on Shoe Bank and $327 on the AE Closeout sale. If either one drops significantly, I'm pulling the trigger. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by middlepP View Post
 

 

$257 isn't bad. When I purchased my Walnut pair, they were on sale for something ridiculous like $207.


While it is possible that a price drop may coincide with the sale, I have never seen AE put a closeout on "sale." In other words, whenever the next sale happens, it's basically irrelevant if you are waiting on a closeout shoe to drop. It seems that they wait to drop the price on discontinued shoes until a week or so after a sale, if anything. 

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Originally Posted by MitchConner View Post

I appreciate the help. Thanks.



Thanks guys. I went to an AE store. They stretched the right toe box area for 3 days. It seems to be better now, as long as I tie the laces very specifically, leaving it loose up front but making it tight towards the top.

Now if I could figure out what socks to wear to minimize blisters in the back, I'll be set.

Great that it worked out for you. I do this lacing technique too with some of my boots. It works quite nicely with boots but I wouldn't want to have to try it on shoes or something like a Dundee that only has three holes.

You may want to experiment with some of the stuff on Ian's lacing site (just google "ian laces")
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The latest haul. It's going to be a fun evening. The one that I am most excited about is the pair of oxblood Eagle Rivers with v-thread sole that I was able to find on
eBay. I always enjoyed seeing Peppercorn's pair, and was finally able to find one.
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Originally Posted by MitchConner View Post

I appreciate the help. Thanks.



Thanks guys. I went to an AE store. They stretched the right toe box area for 3 days. It seems to be better now, as long as I tie the laces very specifically, leaving it loose up front but making it tight towards the top.

Now if I could figure out what socks to wear to minimize blisters in the back, I'll be set.

Do you know how the stretch the toe box? Do they have specific tools for this?
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Originally Posted by cc808314 View Post

Do you know how the stretch the toe box? Do they have specific tools for this?

They claim to have a special tool that they used, along with a chemical that softens the leather to make it easier to stretch.

I've read that I can use a shoe tree to stretch the toe box, by shoving it forward and applying pressure repeatedly. To be honest, the device they use sounds similar in how it works, but I figured it would be best to let the folks at the AE store do it.

The last thing I want to do is tinker when I'm a newbie to all of this.

Edit: I googled "shoe stretcher" and up popped images of what sounds exactly like the device they described to me in the store. I'm guessing they used one of those. I'd post an image, but I don't know the rules on hot linking images here.
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Originally Posted by smfdoc View Post. They are definitely a statement shoe that I plan to wear with nice slacks and a sport coat. Discuss.

 

 

 

 

I kid!    Seriously, I'd ROCK those shoes. They're statement, but that color probably goes with everything. And they look awesome.

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Originally Posted by smfdoc View Post
 

Although some bad pictures were viewed here a few weeks ago, I thought I would share some new pictures of the Belmont in shark skin. The Belmont is a split toe blucher on the 8 last and can be found in the 2002 AE catalog in black and brown. The leather has a medium stiffness and the shoes have a double oak sole. Yes, the leather is as textured as it appears in the pictures. The sole, plus the "tough as nails" reputation of shark, indicate these shoes will last a very long time. They are definitely a statement shoe that I plan to wear with nice slacks and a sport coat. Discuss.

 

I love them!

 

 

AppleMark

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So, I'm not getting my The City shoes.

 

AE sent me an email this afternoon saying they don't have the proper leather to make more for me.  Now, this is interesting, as they still list my size, The City, in the Mocha color on their website, so I'm wondering how they have first quality somewhere and can't get me a pair. I think I am on the "picky bastard" list for extra inspections, since I have had a problem with every first I've ever ordered, but if they fail, shouldn't they end up in the shoebank?

 

Anyway, customer service focused as always, AE says I can have any pair under $385 as replacement, or a refund.

 

Alas, they don't have anything in a style and color I want in my last that isn't Independence line, so I'm kind of torn. It's like being a kid in a candy store, but all the candy is made on the 65 last and doesn't fit me well.

 

I want dark brown, as I have two pair in Bob's Chili already and walnut's too light. Dark brown goes with everything I wear (lots of khaki, black, navy, and denim). I'd preferably love a shortwing blucher, prefer bluchers to bals (I wear denim and chino a lot, and have a high instep), and really don't want a black shoe. 201 is my best last, 333 works, 65 is bad for me.

 

So, I'm left gambling with the 1943 last, and getting a long-wing (Leiden) or a pretty dressy shoe (Cornwalis) to get dark brown. Or I could get Yorktowns in Chili (or I guess Universities from the clearance). Problem with Yorktown is I have a pair of Rutledge already, and do I need a third pair of Chili? It's pretty much down to the 1943s and hoping they fit well. Oh -- I also realize this is a ridiculous conundrum.

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