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Picked up my first pair of Allen Edmonds!



Park Avenue - Dark Brown

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I had a question about the care for my brown burnished Park Avenues.

Would I use the normal conditioner cleaner, followed by the polish .... or only some saddle soap? I was a little confused looking at the care instructions on the Allen Edmonds page: http://www.allenedmonds.com/shoes/mens-shoes/dress-shoes/park-avenue-cap-toe-oxfords/SF270.html?dwvar_SF270_color=5610#sz=63&start=1

QUOTE: "When caring for your calfskin, use Allen Edmonds Conditioner Cleaner to remove surface residue and to keep leather soft and pliable. To achieve a fine luster, wipe shoes with a damp cloth and allow them to air dry at room temperature. Then, apply a coat of Allen Edmonds Premium Shoe Polish with a cloth or horsehair dauber and allow to air dry.

Our new Dark Chili and Oxblood burnished leathers can be cleaned using a damp cloth to remove dirt and any residue. Follow by using a soft cloth to apply our Allen Edmonds Saddle Soap which cleans all smooth leather shoes while restoring the leather's natural oils." END QUOTE

I wasn't sure if the saddle soap treatment only applies to the Oxblood burnished leather and not the brown.


Honestly, it's really about personal preference in either case. I use conditioner and polish on my chili and dark brown because I want a shine, not a luster. I only use saddle soap on non-full grain shoes. Having said that, I don't think you'll run into a problem using the saddle soap if you choose to do so. If you want a shine, you have to use polish, no other choice. If you want a luster, you can follow either of the suggestions above. 

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Do you use the same size on 108 as on 65? 

Short question, long answer:

65-lasted strands: 11D. Have never been happy with the fit, my smallest two toes have always been cramped in both directions. However, 11.5D is too loose.

65-lasted Rush Streets: 11.5D. Love the fit. Not too loose, though close.

I'm an 11D in everything else and have been happy with that size. 333 was initially snug but has broken in perfectly (the buttery leather of the independence line probably helps), 201 is good, and everything on the 108 has fit perfectly. I have more room than I need above my foot in the toebox in the 65 and 201 lasts (there is space between the top of my foot and the shoe), while the 333 and 108 are "flatter" and have less excess material.

I really like the Cornwallis look but 11D is too snug and 11.5d is just a bit too loose. If 11E does not work I will have to pass, I think. FWIW, the 1943-lasted shoes I have seen are a bit narrower at the widest part of the shoe than either the 65 or 333, and then taper more sharply toward the tip, which is shorter than those other lasts. Based on my experience, if a 65 is borderline too short and/or too narrow for your two smallest toes, I would guess that the same size will not work in the 1943.
Hope this helps!
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Honestly, it's really about personal preference in either case. I use conditioner and polish on my chili and dark brown because I want a shine, not a luster. I only use saddle soap on non-full grain shoes. Having said that, I don't think you'll run into a problem using the saddle soap if you choose to do so. If you want a shine, you have to use polish, no other choice. If you want a luster, you can follow either of the suggestions above. 

There is some 'robust' discussion about saddle soap over on the shoe care thread. I personally don't use it on my nice shoes. Maybe it's harmful, maybe it's not but really, what's the need? My general routine is as follows:

- Wipe off dirt with brush and/or damp cloth.
- Apply conditioner to entire shoe.
- Use paste wax on toe cap and heel counters.
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Happy Walnut Wednesday!

I tried using a bit of black polish on the stitching and broguing on these Jeffersons to bring them out more. I have to say, I like the result much more than the plain and dull original color.


You win the thread today!! Between the awesome milk chocolate polishing job on your Jeffs, and the incredible coffee mug presentation, I love it all. Well done.
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Originally Posted by Mcbeck View Post

Picked up my first pair of Allen Edmonds!



Park Avenue - Dark Brown

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Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk

 



I had a question about the care for my brown burnished Park Avenues.

Would I use the normal conditioner cleaner, followed by the polish .... or only some saddle soap? I was a little confused looking at the care instructions on the Allen Edmonds page: http://www.allenedmonds.com/shoes/mens-shoes/dress-shoes/park-avenue-cap-toe-oxfords/SF270.html?dwvar_SF270_color=5610#sz=63&start=1

QUOTE: "When caring for your calfskin, use Allen Edmonds Conditioner Cleaner to remove surface residue and to keep leather soft and pliable. To achieve a fine luster, wipe shoes with a damp cloth and allow them to air dry at room temperature. Then, apply a coat of Allen Edmonds Premium Shoe Polish with a cloth or horsehair dauber and allow to air dry.

Our new Dark Chili and Oxblood burnished leathers can be cleaned using a damp cloth to remove dirt and any residue. Follow by using a soft cloth to apply our Allen Edmonds Saddle Soap which cleans all smooth leather shoes while restoring the leather's natural oils." END QUOTE

I wasn't sure if the saddle soap treatment only applies to the Oxblood burnished leather and not the brown.

I would recommend against using saddle soap on your calfskin shoes. It's not good for the leather, which prefers to stay in a more acidic state. There was a fairly exhaustive (and exhausting) scientific contretemps about it in the official shoe care thread last month. Or the one before. I've kind of blocked it out...

Use Lexol as a conditioner, and some neutral polish on the "burnished" colors like bourbon, oxblood, and dark chili. The difference between those and "brown burnished" is that in the aforementioned, the base color was created in the finishing process and not through tannage.
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Thanks for the info, and - sigh - @Kahuna75 is right; I won't be fitting in those skinny size pants.

 

They are actually comparable to Jcrew pants I've had before. But I had to go a size up in these and they fit well.

 

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Are they the herringbone chinos?

 

Not the chinos, they are part of a suit actually but I just got the pants..

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Use Lexol as a conditioner, and some neutral polish on the "burnished" colors like bourbon, oxblood, and dark chili. The difference between those and "brown burnished" is that in the aforementioned, the base color was created in the finishing process and not through tannage.

 

Is dark chili truly a "burnished" color in the sense that bourbon and oxblood are?  I've seen a few people suggest that here, but haven't ever seen confirmation.  For some reason I was under the impression that the dark chili was truly its own color leather (and, hence, using cleaner conditioner + dark chili polish would be fine).

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Is dark chili truly a "burnished" color in the sense that bourbon and oxblood are?  I've seen a few people suggest that here, but haven't ever seen confirmation.  For some reason I was under the impression that the dark chili was truly its own color leather (and, hence, using cleaner conditioner + dark chili polish would be fine).

 

Yes, it is actually (heavily) burnished, like bourbon and oxblood.

 

I would recommend using the same care and caution as with bourbon and oxblood so as to not ruin the burnishing.

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Is dark chili truly a "burnished" color in the sense that bourbon and oxblood are?  I've seen a few people suggest that here, but haven't ever seen confirmation.  For some reason I was under the impression that the dark chili was truly its own color leather (and, hence, using cleaner conditioner + dark chili polish would be fine).

 

Yes, it is actually (heavily) burnished, like bourbon and oxblood.

 

I would recommend using the same care and caution as with bourbon and oxblood so as to not ruin the burnishing.

 

So is dark chili....the once known as Bob's Chili....did Bob take his chili and go home?

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Originally Posted by JSO1 View Post
 

 

Yes, it is actually (heavily) burnished, like bourbon and oxblood.

 

I would recommend using the same care and caution as with bourbon and oxblood so as to not ruin the burnishing.

 

 

Pardon my ignorance, but what is the proper care and caution when polishing bourbon?  All along I've been merely conditioning and using bourbon cream polish, while shining the toes and heels with brown wax...

post #68186 of 70737
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So is dark chili....the once known as Bob's Chili....did Bob take his chili and go home?

 

Paul G. wanted to name the new colors after AE employees, so they named the new darker chili "Bob's Chili" after Bob (head of finishing, I think) and the new oxblood color "Jose's Oxblood" (after another employee in the finishing dept). Bob's Chili stuck more effectively than Jose's Oxblood, and I think AE somewhat gave up (I'm guessing marketing didn't like the color names), so now they're just Dark Chili and Oxblood.

 

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Pardon my ignorance, but what is the proper care and caution when polishing bourbon?  All along I've been merely conditioning and using bourbon cream polish, while shining the toes and heels with brown wax...

 

Due to the heavily burnished finish, some folks think that using the colored polish might alter the burnishing (it does, on some pairs in some cases). You will often hear the recommendation to just use conditioner and neutral wax/polish to maintain the factory burnishing. Some people think that conditioner can remove some of the burnishing or that the colored polishes can tone down the burnished look or dull it.

 

It really depends on the pair, how heavily burnished it is, and your style. I personally use black polish on the heavily burnished AE colors (bourbon, dark chili, and oxblood) to keep up the burnished look.

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Happy Walnut Wednesday!

 

I tried using a bit of black polish on the stitching and broguing on these Jeffersons to bring them out more. I have to say, I like the result much more than the plain and dull original color.

Cream or wax?

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Bourbon and grey - I like this combination

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I sometimes reach for chili when wearing grey slacks as I like my shoes to 'pop.' The more I look at the grey/bourbon combo, the more I like it. As someone else pointed out here a few days ago, bourbon also looks great with mid blues.
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Love a little wool with my walnut Wednesday . A WWW!
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You win the thread today!! Between the awesome milk chocolate polishing job on your Jeffs, and the incredible coffee mug presentation, I love it all. Well done

 

Thanks! I don't drink coffee, but my office does have free oatmeal in the mornings. Thought you might enjoy that substitute.

 

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Cream or wax?

 

I just used AE tube polish in black and walnut.

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