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That is true and sometimes they screw up the lasting...I bought three pair of Oddenwalds in the same size and picked the two shoes that fit best and returned the others...I pay for my own returns so I don't feel bad about it. I have started doing that all the time now....I love AE however if they can not make items the same way then I feel it is something I need to do- honestly one pair of Oddenwalds was so mislasted I would have thought i needed another size....
I'm not sure that they "screw up" the lasting. These shoes are hand-made, and I understand there will be some variances. I think the difference is due to the individual workers. Bruce, with 20 years experience and arms like a bodybuilder, is probably going to get the leather pretty tight on the last. Melody, the new worker, may have it looser. (All names are made-up.)
I think that my Carlyles were lasted by Bruce.

 

That happens for sure with just a little more snug or loose but when the whole shoe is completely off center, the rear seam line is 3/4 of an inch of center and the shoe sits at an angle that is what I meant. Personally I like Joe he lasts like an angel! :)

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These are all size 9EEE.  Since I first posted this picture, less than a year ago, the shoes have continued to multiply like Tribbles and there are now many more of them.  I should take a new picture of them all......


You are gonna need a bigger rug soon.

Nice collection!
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That happens for sure with just a little more snug or loose but when the whole shoe is completely off center, the rear seam line is 3/4 of an inch of center and the shoe sits at an angle that is what I meant. Personally I like Joe he lasts like an angel! smile.gif
I wish that I could get Bruce to do my right shoe and Melody to do the left one!
It really is amazing how much difference there can be between two shoes of the same model built on the same last.
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AE are machine lasted not hand lasted.
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AE are machine lasted not hand lasted.
OK. I did not know that.
Why is there so much variance?
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AE are machine lasted not hand lasted.
OK. I did not know that.
Why is there so much variance?

 

Did not know that either...interesting.

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OK. I did not know that.
Why is there so much variance?

Leather is an organic material. Not all hides come from the same animal. Plus, AE may source different colors from different tanneries. AND, they may have multiple copies of the actual last in your size, which may vary in small ways, too.

Soooo many variables.
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OK. I did not know that.
Why is there so much variance?

Leather is an organic material. Not all hides come from the same animal. Plus, AE may source different colors from different tanneries. AND, they may have multiple copies of the actual last in your size, which may vary in small ways, too.

Soooo many variables.

 

and to continue...each piece of hide will stretch differently and a machine will not know to compensate for that while someone handlasting would and adjust accordingly - For whatever reason I thought AE shoes were hand lasted...honestly now knowing they are machine lasted helps to explain how so many off centered, incorrectly pulled brogue patters happen as the machine can not notice small imperfections and correct them with lasting. Really does explain a lot and I am fine with it...so long as the shoe fits and looks great. 

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These are all size 9EEE.  Since I first posted this picture, less than a year ago, the shoes have continued to multiply like Tribbles and there are now many more of them.  I should take a new picture of them all......
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You are gonna need a bigger rug soon.

Nice collection!

Great photo!

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and to continue...each piece of hide will stretch differently and a machine will not know to compensate for that while someone handlasting would and adjust accordingly - For whatever reason I thought AE shoes were hand lasted...honestly now knowing they are machine lasted helps to explain how so many off centered, incorrectly pulled brogue patters happen as the machine can not notice small imperfections and correct them with lasting. Really does explain a lot and I am fine with it...so long as the shoe fits and looks great. 

I've seen the process in a video somewhere. The machine isn't a robot that is fully automated. It's got a great big lever that you pull down to fit the upper onto the last. So there is a human hand guiding the process. Nevertheless to churn out the kind of numbers AE does, the shoes have gotta be moving in and out of lasting very fast. Stands to reason that some things might get kissed or incorrectly eyeballed. That's the human part of the process. smile.gif
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Whoah! Are those new? No creases! Unless you've managed to work out how to get the Mike Method to work on calf...

Great boots.

These are a little over a year old. These fit very well and break right at the wingtip so not much creasing.
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Below are pics showing differences in color and quality between the Sauk Drive (left) in russet brown Dublin and one of the GMTO Long Branches from about this time last year in tan Dublin.

I love the color of each. However, note how smooth the vamp of my son's LB is (after a year of wear) compared to the wrinkling in the fresh out of the box Saulk Drive. It is more pronounced IRL than the photos suggest. Ditto the shafts, though you can't see it here.

Yes, it is a second so I'm not complaining but am nevertheless disappointed. Back they go, Kristle is going to order in and inspect the last in my size and see if it is any better (which I greatly appreciate).

Top pic is indoors without flash. Bottom pic with flash.



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just refinished and new heels. Looks like new. Next I'll do the black Leeds.
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Below are pics showing differences in color and quality between the Sauk Drive (left) in russet brown Dublin and one of the GMTO Long Branches from about this time last year in tan Dublin.

I love the color of each. However, note how smooth the vamp of my son's LB is (after a year of wear) compared to the wrinkling in the fresh out of the box Saulk Drive. It is more pronounced IRL than the photos suggest. Ditto the shafts, though you can't see it here.

Yes, it is a second so I'm not complaining but am nevertheless disappointed. Back they go, Kristle is going to order in and inspect the last in my size and see if it is any better (which I greatly appreciate).

Top pic is indoors without flash. Bottom pic with flash.




I noticed that on my second quality Freiburgs as well. I snapped this pic after pushing down on the vamp with my thumb. The leather has a dry feel to it and I almost worry about those 'raised' wrinkles cracking.



I'm not quite sure what to make of these. On one hand, I love the pull-up effects in Dublin leather and you certainly get a lot of it here. On the other hand, these are finished more like a dress shoe: black edge dressing, eyelets, and laces. From the pics on AE's website I thought they might be able to pull double duty with slacks and chinos/cords. IRL, the leather is much too casual for slacks. I think the leather works better on the Sauk Drive where it's complemented by the broguing and lug sole. If I do keep these, I think they'll need some casual enhancements like lighter edge dressing and laces.
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I hate to do this but I really need to know. Can someone provide quick details or products used and application on how you maintain the leather on your AE's. Looking to provide a medium level and high gloss shine. Thanks....


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