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What are the relevant factors, pros/cons with regard to A&E shoes in calfskin?  Is this a desirable material?  Is it as stiff as regular leather?  I don't believe calfskin takes a shine as well as other shoe leather.  The texture seems like it would be softer and not as smooth.  Any insight appreciated, thanks...

 

Edited to say I also get the impression that the calfskin is not quite as formal/dressy...?  Perhaps that is because the character of the shine is different.


I think you've got it backwards. Calfskin is THE most formal leather for shoes after patent leather. AE uses a good quality chrome tannage in the vast majority of it's shoes, but probably the lowest choice cuts from the hide compared to higher end brands (like Alden, Crockett and Jones, Alfred Sergeant, Vass, etc). This isn't surprising considering the price point.

 

AE's calf will take a mirror shine, but it's on you to get it there (quoting this very thread from 4 years ago when I first joined).

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I think you've got it backwards. Calfskin is THE most formal leather for shoes after patent leather. AE uses a good quality chrome tannage in the vast majority of it's shoes, but probably the lowest choice cuts from the hide compared to higher end brands (like Alden, Crockett and Jones, Alfred Sergeant, Vass, etc). This isn't surprising considering the price point.

 

AE's calf will take a mirror shine, but it's on you to get it there (quoting this very thread from 4 years ago when I first joined).

Thank you for this clarification!

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I don't own a pair of oxfords, and happened to stumble upon a pair of AE Park Avenues in burgundy polished cobbler at a thrift store for $20.

 

The uppers are in decent condition, though with some strong creasing. The rest of the shoe (soles, heels, inner sole all could use work/replacing).

 

I know the polished cobbler is the corrected grain Allen Edmond produced for a while, what would be your guys opinions of having these recrafted? I don't wear a suit very often, but I'd like to have a decent set of oxfords around for when I do, and $20 for the shoes, and 125-150 for the recrafting service still seems like I'm coming out ahead. Though I'm not sure if this is worth it them being the corrected grain.

 



Personally. No I would bother with them. Being that heavily worn that material just wouldn't look right after a recraft. IMO. I would look through the shoe bank and for slightly more you can get new 2nd quality Brooks Brothers footware. I don't think they do a PA but they have a strand and 5th ave, all which would work well I think for what your looking for. Depending on what the "flaw" might be. Normal price is 199 but if wait till a sale they drop to 159. Better leather, and new.

Thanks!

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Sorry about the double post - meant to post here the first time...


I am new to the forum and just wanted to start out by saying hello to everyone. I am glad that i have found a place where i can get some solid advice on menswear topics. So here's the story:

A few weeks back I went to my local Allen Edmonds shop and, after trying on a pair of the First Avenue and Dalton boots, finally decided to pull the trigger on a new pair of First Ave boots. I had my foot measured by one of their salesman and settled on a size 9D (I usually range between an 8.5 - 9D in dress shoes / boots). They fit great (especially since i have a narrow foot and its hard to find boots that fit well), there is no heel slippage, and they're not too wide in the toe. However, I have realized they are a little long. This is my first pair of actual dress boots so I am not too sure what to expect.

My question is essentially two-fold at this point and some advice is greatly appreciated:

1. Does anyone have experience with this boot? If so, has anyone else noticed they run a little on the long side?

2. Would going to a different size width reduce the overall length of the boot? I can honestly say that if i went to an 8.5 D the boots would be too tight because they fit snug already in the sides and the heel.

I tried searching the forum for general information but was hoping someone could point me in the right direction as this question may have been asked before. I am relatively new to the world of shoe buying and quality > quantity. I do understand, however, the point of saving to buy a quality pair of shoes / boots that are made of higher quality materials and can be re-crafted. I am also early in my career and find that Allen Edmonds is the perfect balance between quality/price for the time being. 

 

Thanks for listening to a rather long, drawn out post. 

I think you should try going down in length to 8.5 and then wider to an E or maybe even an EE, depending on the last. The only way to know is to try them on.

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Did you refinish yourself or have a cobbler do it? If so, how did you do it?

 



I did it myself. Basically just sanded down the edges with sand paper and then refinished the edges with AE brown polish and chilli edge dressing.
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Originally Posted by Fett2 View Post
 

I don't own a pair of oxfords, and happened to stumble upon a pair of AE Park Avenues in burgundy polished cobbler at a thrift store for $20.


 

The uppers are in decent condition, though with some strong creasing. The rest of the shoe (soles, heels, inner sole all could use work/replacing).


 

I know the polished cobbler is the corrected grain Allen Edmond produced for a while, what would be your guys opinions of having these recrafted? I don't wear a suit very often, but I'd like to have a decent set of oxfords around for when I do, and $20 for the shoes, and 125-150 for the recrafting service still seems like I'm coming out ahead. Though I'm not sure if this is worth it them being the corrected grain.

 

 

The polished cobbler is what it is - I have a pair in this leather and like them.  They repel rain and are easy to take care of.  As far as the re-craft, with the uppers sounding like they're in so-so condition,  I'd strongly consider seeing if you can find a local cobbler who can do a re-sole for, I don't know, maybe $50 - $70.  I've used a guy at a boot shop before for some of my beater shoes - for the $50 he charges it certainly ain't an AE re-crafting, but it's a full leather sole, vibram rubber heel, machine welted, etc..  It does the job.  

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All this talk of cobbler is making me crave apple pie. Good thing my wife just baked one!
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I don't own a pair of oxfords, and happened to stumble upon a pair of AE Park Avenues in burgundy polished cobbler at a thrift store for $20.


 

The uppers are in decent condition, though with some strong creasing. The rest of the shoe (soles, heels, inner sole all could use work/replacing).


 

I know the polished cobbler is the corrected grain Allen Edmond produced for a while, what would be your guys opinions of having these recrafted? I don't wear a suit very often, but I'd like to have a decent set of oxfords around for when I do, and $20 for the shoes, and 125-150 for the recrafting service still seems like I'm coming out ahead. Though I'm not sure if this is worth it them being the corrected grain.





 






Personally. No I would bother with them. Being that heavily worn that material just wouldn't look right after a recraft. IMO. I would look through the shoe bank and for slightly more you can get new 2nd quality Brooks Brothers footware. I don't think they do a PA but they have a strand and 5th ave, all which would work well I think for what your looking for. Depending on what the "flaw" might be. Normal price is 199 but if wait till a sale they drop to 159. Better leather, and new.



Thanks!


 



Also forgot to mention black PAs are easy to find in good shape on ebay for under $100. Thats what I did for mine. Paid like $70 and were lightly worn. I've worn them 2-3 times in 2 years. Fit the bill perfectly.
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All this talk of cobbler is making me crave apple pie. Good thing my wife just baked one!


Lucky devil.

post #66115 of 70737
looking at these shoes more, maybe they aren't supposed to be the same color. the Kenwood on the left look much lighter dyed - anyone have newer AE like this?

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Just got my Bourbon McAllister, Grayson, Ascher dyed soles and heels in brown. Great look! Pics tonight.
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The maiden voyage of my Duke Football shoes.  These are really comfortable, and I love the Vibram lug sole.

 

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Round one: 

 

1. My first attempt at sanding and "antiquing" the edge dressing. Not perfect, but it kinda gives them a vintage "worn" look in my opinion. 

 

2. Cleaned with Renomat and conditioned with Renovateur.

 

3. Used AE walnut creme polish on the whole shoe.

 

4. Used AE burgundy creme polish on the toes and heels. Didn't show up as much as I would've liked, but there is a subtle shade variation.

 

5. 3 coats of Kiwi neutral wax polish.

 

 

 

Any opinions? What did I do right? What could I have done better?

 

Before:

 

 

 

 

 


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post #66119 of 70737
SF, help me find some 24" laces to replace the alabaster tan laces on my AE Gobi chukkas. I'm looking for a dark brown for my tan saddle, but all they sell in 24" is the alabaster tan. Any third party vendors you recommend?
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So I purchased the recommended Decatur Ave. belt in brown grain to match my brown grain Dundee 2.0's.  The belt is several shades lighter brown than the Dundees.  Suggestions to darken the belt to match the boots?  

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