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The brown grain comes standard with the Dainite, just as the brown grain Leeds and Mac Neil 2.0s come standard with Dainite. The other colors come stock with VTread.

 

my First Avenue tan grain comes with the dainite sole

maybe it's just all the grain colors (tan and brown currently) that have dainite

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Need some opinions, please.

My Father and Father in Law have always bought nothing but Bostonian, newer Florsheim, Cole Haan, etc. This year for Christmas, I want to buy them their first truly quality pair of shoes. Both of them wear suits 2-4 days a week and business casual (jacket and tie) the other work days. 

So my question is this:

If you were going to be given your first and only pair of AEs, which model would you want them to be?
McAllister in merlot or brown burnished.
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+1  

 

Also, in Bob's Chili.

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Originally Posted by shoelover View Post
 

Need some opinions, please.

 

My Father and Father in Law have always bought nothing but Bostonian, newer Florsheim, Cole Haan, etc. This year for Christmas, I want to buy them their first truly quality pair of shoes. Both of them wear suits 2-4 days a week and business casual (jacket and tie) the other work days. 

 

So my question is this:

 

If you were going to be given your first and only pair of AEs, which model would you want them to be?

 

If it's a gift, I'd try to figure out which is their most worn shoe and just get the equivalent. I would really like a pair of Bourbon Strands however they would be a terrible gift for my father. He only wears black dress shoes and hates any brogueing. Given that I would probably get him a Carlyle or Park Ave. 

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Part of my background is in visual design as well, and I think you have some great points. On the other hand, one has to consider the overall point of the black PA. It is about formality with classic lines. And formality is much more about conformity than interest or preference. The purpose of the black PA is actually the opposite of interest in my opinion. It is supposed to blend in to the rest of the attire, creating strong masculine lines that ground a dark masculine suit. Black PA's are more about showing one's character than one's personality. They are more about showing respect for others and the event to which they are worn than individuality. A well dressed man in a dark suit and polished PA's always looks sharp, because it reveals a man of character with the humility and respect for tradition that allow him to confidently express his personality in the minute details of his attire (e.g. PS fold, tie knot, overall fit) and the person on his arm or at home. 

Don't get me wrong, I love a walnut strand and my chili universities, and I don't even own a pair of black PA's. I don't own them because I find the FA's more versatile, but I can't deny that black PA's do their job extremely well.  
Alright redmusic, inspired by our conversation, I just acquired a pair of used Black PAs off eBay. Also, through reading the other long post on black cap toe oxfords, I've grown in my appreciation of them. It was almost on a whim on the offer I made to a seller, and I can't believe the quality of the uppers on this used pair. They're almost new.

However, on these the leather soles were black. Does anyone know why that might be the case? I didn't know you could get your leather soles in black, or if that might indicate a problem with the shoe. It has some numbering written in as well. Maybe seconds, or a repair, or something or the like? Or did they have a version of that kind?

I'll post pics when I can.
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Alright redmusic, inspired by our conversation, I just acquired a pair of used Black PAs off eBay. Also, through reading the other long post on black cap toe oxfords, I've grown in my appreciation of them. It was almost on a whim on the offer I made to a seller, and I can't believe the quality of the uppers on this used pair. They're almost new.

However, on these the leather soles were black. Does anyone know why that might be the case? I didn't know you could get your leather soles in black, or if that might indicate a problem with the shoe. It has some numbering written in as well. Maybe seconds, or a repair, or something or the like? Or did they have a version of that kind?

I'll post pics when I can.

 

It's kinda funny, because I've been looking to buy a brown pair of brogues for a while, yet I have found myself on multiple occasions since that conversation considering a bid on some black PA's off eBay. Glad to hear you pulled the trigger. 

 

I haven't seen a black sole on any myself, maybe someone else can shed some light. I would assume its a resole from a local cobbler. Hope you enjoy.

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Has anyone been down to the Atlanta BCF lately. Seems like there were a couple of guys who had occasional posts from there. I'm headed over to the area this weekend and was wondering if it might be worth the trouble. 

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I would look for a Blucher with a Danite or V-tread sole. My recommendations would be Chilli Delray (v-tread), Bourbon or Dark Chilli Lexington (Danite sole), Oxblood or Brown McGregor (Danite sole).  If you want a monk trap, another option beside the Mora would be the V-tread Francisca, very versatile, can dress up or down.

 

With regards to fit, nothing beats going to the store.  Nordstrom maybe able to order the sizes to the store for you to try on, you may need to speak to a manager or a senior associate to do so. Otherwise, AE offers free return shipping.  You may need to get a couple of different sizes and figure out what's best to keep.

 

Good luck and welcome to the forum

 

 

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All of the AE lasts provide shoes up to EEE. I, also, have a wide foot and require a EEE. I have found that the issue for me is not a "narrow" last, but that some of the lasts do not provide enough room in the forefoot and the vamp of the shoe does not allow for a high instep. After experimentation I have found more room with the 511, 201 and 678 last. As a starting point for your weather and job description, I would recommend the roomy Rogue with a leather sole and the Bentons and Ashton, both of which have rubber soles. I have and like them all. Like I said, its a starting point.

 

Excellent suggestions - thanks.  I get that all the shoes go to EEE, but not all EEEs are the same. I recall trying one AE 10EEE a few years ago that I could barely get my foot into. I was trying to avoid a ton of shipping back and forth, but that may be the best option given where I live.

 

I just bought a pair of used walnut Ashtons to see how they fit. The price was right. Will see how those do. 

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Unspoilered for awesomeness.

Damn if I could get the v gap to close like that, those bad boys would still be with me now.

@nickatpsu your turn. I shipped this pair and yours on the same day :-)


First day in the wild and I can already tell, these are going to get some serious wear. Will carve out some brushing time tonight. Thanks a million, Dale.
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Has anyone been down to the Atlanta BCF lately. Seems like there were a couple of guys who had occasional posts from there. I'm headed over to the area this weekend and was wondering if it might be worth the trouble. 

I have been twice. Yesterday, I found a pair of
Woodstock loafers in Chili. But there literally nothing else there. So I would say the Atlanta BCF s are a waste of time. No great finds such as those others have found
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However, on these the leather soles were black. Does anyone know why that might be the case? I didn't know you could get your leather soles in black, or if that might indicate a problem with the shoe. It has some numbering written in as well. Maybe seconds, or a repair, or something or the like? Or did they have a version of that kind?

I'll post pics when I can.

 

Soles or insoles? There was a period of time ~2009-2010 (IIRC) that they used black insoles.

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It's kinda funny, because I've been looking to buy a brown pair of brogues for a while, yet I have found myself on multiple occasions since that conversation considering a bid on some black PA's off eBay. Glad to hear you pulled the trigger. 

I haven't seen a black sole on any myself, maybe someone else can shed some light. I would assume its a resole from a local cobbler. Hope you enjoy.
So it is your turn now although you werent in the place I was of not having a black shoe (if you don't count my ugly old Bostonians).

That's what I thought too but it does say AllenEdmonds on the sole. I've heard some people paint the sole black to get theall blacked out look? (Black rims on a car)

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So it is your turn now although you werent in the place I was of not having a black shoe (if you don't count my ugly old Bostonians).

That's what I thought too but it does say AllenEdmonds on the sole. I've heard some people paint the sole black to get theall blacked out look? (Black rims on a car)
 

 

I saw a pair like this at Nord. Rack. It had a sticker that said they "refurbished" it. I'm guessing it was tried on enough where they painted it black so it looked new again.

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i think i should ask here because AE customer service seems a bit off. i wear a 6.5E in their 5 last. bought a pair of long branch last week during the sale and got a 7D upon the online CS advice. they were a bit tight width wise, but length wise maybe a hair too long. i went in to their actual store yesterday to get physically sized and lol they sized me as a 8/8.5 EEE/EE (left/right). soo... there must be something wrong with how they are actually sizing/measuring. so i'm hoping there is more useful information here as I'm not sure if I should get a 6.5E or a 7E or something altogether different. my big issue is that neither of those sizes is in stock and needs to be crafted with a 4-6 week wait. so i don't want to order the wrong size only to have to go through the exchange process again

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A related question about different models of Park Avenue. I am looking at a secondhand pair whose sole bears the Allen Edmonds logo, but closer to the ball of the foot than I'm accustomed to seeing it, and (seemingly) in a slightly different font.  They appear to be in great condition.  Is it possible that its just an older version of the shoe -- one from the 90's or something like that?

 

The model number reads: 

14EEE 29298 11 

6 5615 COMB. 2538

 

Any help would be appreciated.  

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