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It's definitely worth a shot. I have chili Dalton's, brown McGraws, and dark chocolate Fifth Avenues, on which I could not identify a single flaw. My father and brother have Strands and Delrays on which they were unable to identify flaws. I have bought several other pairs with defects ranging from discolored patches, superficial scratches, and (more seriously) little divots in the uppers. It depends on the shoe. A divot or scratch on the vamp of a black Park Avenue may ruin it. On a Black Hills, Badlands, or outdoorsy boot, it may not matter at all. A defect like that on a $299 Fifth Avenue second may bother you more than a similar defect on a $127 pair of a discontinued model. If you live within a reasonable drive of an outlet, I would recommend going in person; you can judge the defects for themselves; it really only voters me when I order by phone and then find the defects significant enough to justify returning them.
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I have purchased about 5 pairs of AE's from the Shoe Bank. I have not had any real issues - a little wrinkle here and there, some stitching not quite perfect, etc. On a couple of the shoes purchased from the Shoe Bank I have not been able to spot any flaws. Probably the biggest issue I had was with my Long Branch boots - one of the boots has the eyelets not quite lining up perfect. Much less noticeable when laced up and can't see it under my jeans when I'm wearing them so no big deal to me. I have never returned anything I bought from the Shoe Bank.

I don't know if my experience is representative of all Shoe Bank purchases or if I am just lucky. But that has been my experience.

Chris
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So what is your opinion of these poron insoles? Is this a cost saving measure? It makes me think of a Johnston Murphy or a Cole Haan, but I could certainly be wrong about that.
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The Williams in brown (sorry for the pic, they are still drying from a conditioning).

I am hoping to pair these with dress pants, chinos, and dressy jeans. The issue is that, while a LWB, they seem kind of dressy for jeans (even darker, nicer ones). I already have black Leeds for jeans but was hoping to wear these once in a while too. Would I have to wear an odd jacket and nice shirt whenever I wore these with jeans?

And thanks to the AE thread for enabling me to buy 5 pairs of AEs in the last three months, my first real shoes!

Park Ave - black
McAllister - merlot
Strand - walnut
Williams - brown
Leeds - black

You enablers are the best, thanks!
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What's the worst experience anybody here has had with Allen Edmonds Factory Seconds? Are they actually worth buying? I live an hour and a half way from the shoe bank in Port Washington, WI and I want to go check it out. If I like a pair, then I might think of buying it. Only if it's worth it though. I have 4 pairs of 1st quality AE shoes, but this would be my first pair of factory seconds. Thanks!

I just received my 2nd pair from shoebank yesterday. The cap toes on both boots were caved in. When you push them back out, they pop back in like an oil can, so they are going back. The first pair iI bought from shoebank had minor blemish that really disappeared into the break in creases that formed. They were great. Unfortunately, I like a few hundred miles from the nearest outlet store, so I'll take them back to my local retail store today or tomorrow and hope they'll extend me the RDA price if I trade the boots in for 1sts.
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Some have mentioned fit & finish issues. Just got a pair for Neumok firsts today, and there sole is attached like this. Could it be an issue (snagging, coming apart, etc.) or should I ignore it?


 

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Stuff like this is par for the course with AE now.

 

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I'd choose the one that fits best.  On me, for instance, the McGregors don't fit well whereas the MacNeils are perfect.  If both fit well, then get a McGregor if you want a leather insole or a MacNeil if you want a Poron insole.  Also, the McGregors come in a couple of colors -- burnished brown and oxblood -- which are not offered for the MacNeils.  The MacNeils are available in a brown grain leather for a more casual look, which is not offered for the McGregors.

 

Well, the McGregor and MacNeil are on different lasts, so that isn't surprising.

 

The MacNeil 2.0 looks good - they did a nice job altering the pattern to look more elegant. The Brown Grain and Dark Chili offerings on the MacNeil are really great.

 

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Finally cooled off so I wore the new Dundee 2.0's for the first time today. Very comfortable - I think I'm going to like these. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Chris

 

I like those. AE's going the right way here, with the new grain offerings.

 

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Peppercorn shot of brown shell strands today. I dont do coffee wink.gif
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A classic! Great shoes.

 

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Originally Posted by Newberry View Post

What's the worst experience anybody here has had with Allen Edmonds Factory Seconds? Are they actually worth buying? I live an hour and a half way from the shoe bank in Port Washington, WI and I want to go check it out. If I like a pair, then I might think of buying it. Only if it's worth it though. I have 4 pairs of 1st quality AE shoes, but this would be my first pair of factory seconds. Thanks!

 

The Port Washington shoebank is great. It's the only one where you can actually see most of the inventory and look through the boxes yourself. They have a whole wall of clearance shoes - occasionally you can find some sweet old SMUs/MTOs there. Definitely worth going. Also, Port Washington is an adorable little town. I love the Wisconsin/Lake Michigan shore. Sheboygan is one of my favorite places to go for a relaxing weekend.

 

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Same box as buying first quality in store, but no shoe bags in my experience. Also they don't throw in the free shoe horns like they do at my retail store - not that it really matters to me.

 

You almost never ever get shoe bags when you buy seconds. They come in the clear plastic bags. Once, I bought a pair of Oxblood shoes, and the plastic bag actually got stuck to the shoes (the finish must have been done pretty recently), and destroyed the oxblood finish on one shoe. I was furious.

 

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Haven't worn my Bradley's for a while. Not sure why. Like visiting an old friend. Best 3 bills I ever spent wink.gif

 

Lookin' good today!

 

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The Williams in brown (sorry for the pic, they are still drying from a conditioning).

I am hoping to pair these with dress pants, chinos, and dressy jeans. The issue is that, while a LWB, they seem kind of dressy for jeans (even darker, nicer ones). I already have black Leeds for jeans but was hoping to wear these once in a while too. Would I have to wear an odd jacket and nice shirt whenever I wore these with jeans?

And thanks to the AE thread for enabling me to buy 5 pairs of AEs in the last three months, my first real shoes!

Park Ave - black
McAllister - merlot
Strand - walnut
Williams - brown
Leeds - black

You enablers are the best, thanks!

 

I don't think you need an odd jacket for the Williams. LWBs can be dressed up or dressed down easily. I would wear a nice shirt, but you don't necessary need a sport coat.

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It's definitely worth a shot. I have chili Dalton's, brown McGraws, and dark chocolate Fifth Avenues, on which I could not identify a single flaw. My father and brother have Strands and Delrays on which they were unable to identify flaws. I have bought several other pairs with defects ranging from discolored patches, superficial scratches, and (more seriously) little divots in the uppers. It depends on the shoe. A divot or scratch on the vamp of a black Park Avenue may ruin it. On a Black Hills, Badlands, or outdoorsy boot, it may not matter at all. A defect like that on a $299 Fifth Avenue second may bother you more than a similar defect on a $127 pair of a discontinued model. If you live within a reasonable drive of an outlet, I would recommend going in person; you can judge the defects for themselves; it really only voters me when I order by phone and then find the defects significant enough to justify returning them.




I think this is really solid advice on considering the price point/purpose. I'm a super-cheap mofo, so I'm really drawn to the Shoe Bank more than retail. My first pair of AEs were first quality Long Branches right after they came out. They are glorious.

 

Since then, I've ordered solely from the Shoe Bank and received the following:
Black Hills in gray for $97 (no noticeable defect)

McTavish in cognac for $127 (maybe some slight color variation and a bit wider than I was expecting, but I wasn't sending them back)

Oxblood Strands for $179 (On sale for $229 coupled with an AmEx coupon for $50 off a $200 purchase)

Darmstadt in brown for $117 (kind of underwhelmed by them, but no defects)

Cronmok in brown for $117 (returned because the size didn't fit, plus I didn't really like the color in person)

Gobi in tan saddle for $97 (maybe a bit of color variance, but at that price unless there were gouges, I wasn't returning them)

 

I have NEVER received a pair from the Shoe Bank that wasn't good enough to wear. Maybe because I haven't really spent any big cash on a shoe there, maybe because I'm not as picky as some others, maybe because I lean more towards casual, maybe I have good shoe karma. Whatever the reason, that's been my experience and your mileage may definitely vary.

On the other hand, if I was dropping some bigger coin on cordovan from the Shoe Bank, I'd probably be a little more picky than I've been to this point. I don't know, I feel like the approach of "these are going to be fine" has worked for me. If you go in thinking, "these are going to be awesome!" you might be disappointed.

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Also, as an FYI to the folks in this thread, I am selling two pairs of AEs - my Natural Shell MacNeils and my Burgundy Shell Cambridges. As great as they are, I think it's time to cull my shoe closet a bit... figured to give you guys a heads up before too many people see the classifieds in the marketplace.

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I think I bought about 16 out of 34 as 2nds (?) and tried on way more than that. Plenty of cosmetic flaws I was willing to overlook along the way. Too worst things I came across - a mctavish where the left shoe width was way more snug than the right, and a pair of VH where the right was longer than the left.
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I had a problem with seconds recently where the upper leather on one shoe was cut wrong for the size and I couldn't lace them tight (too much leather?). Otherwise I didn't see any obvious visual blemishes, so there can be some major fit issues.

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Also, as an FYI to the folks in this thread, I am selling two pairs of AEs - my Natural Shell MacNeils and my Burgundy Shell Cambridges. As great as they are, I think it's time to cull my shoe closet a bit... figured to give you guys a heads up before too many people see the classifieds in the marketplace.


I need someone in a 12 EEE to begin culling.

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You almost never ever get shoe bags when you buy seconds. They come in the clear plastic bags. 

 

I guess I've been very lucky. My shell MacNeil, shell Dundee, Jefferson, and Rutledge seconds have all come with shoe bags. I'm 4 for 6 from the shoebank on shoe bags.

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I guess I've been very lucky. My shell MacNeil, shell Dundee, Jefferson, and Rutledge seconds have all come with shoe bags. I'm 4 for 6 from the shoebank on shoe bags.

 

I think you've been lucky because you've been buying the very high-end of what AE offers, so it's possible the rate of inclusion for dust bags in those models of seconds is higher. That said, my shell seconds have not come with shoe bags.

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Shell blooming


I came across an old pair of shell Bradley that I got for under one bill on the Bay. They have some miles on them but certainly great condition. I've worn them a few times in the past 6 months. To my surprise when I'm taking them out for a quick cleaning today, they are blooming like crazy.
Another shot from the side after some brushing, the color variation is stunning. Hope it translates in the picture
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I can't find the post now, but I think I remember someone asking if the brown grain MacNeil 2.0 use the same leather as the Dundee 2.0. I took this photo today - it looks to be the same leather.


Chris
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McAllisters and Chesters, both short wing balmorals, both in merlot.
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