Them Park Avenues are killers...
Is the bottom one Burgundy? Kinda looks like burgundy but much... nicer (?) than other burgundies I have seen. Did you use special polish/cream/wax?
Not burgundy. Those are the dark chili burnished. I use the dark chili shoe cream as base and kiwi brown wax on the toe. The color is just that nice when light hits them. They aren't quite dark enough for me to wear with a charcoal or navy suit (though it wouldn't look bad, just a little to forward for my taste), but they absolutely rock with charcoal trousers and a dark odd coat.
Open question for you guys:
I'm taking a couple of vacation trips to the Pacific Northwest this fall, and I have been in the market for a pair of shoes versatile enough to be the only pair of proper shoes I pack on the trip. I won't need to dress formally, but I plan on staying in decent hotels and treating myself to a couple of meals at fancy restaurants. After looking at a few different options, I narrowed things down to thick-soled longwings like Allen Edmonds's MacNeil, and to a pebble grain chukka. Once Allen Edmonds introduced the MacNeil 2.0, they reduced the 1.0s to $197, so I bought a pair in brown. They look great, but I think they might be a little dressy to wear walking around Portland and Denver for a weekend in jeans and a waxed cotton jacket. $197 is a great price for them, though, especially compared to $385 for Dundee firsts (the only Dundees available at the time).
But, during the current sale, pebble grain Dundee seconds are $219, at which price they are appealing enough for me to consider returning the MacNeils and buying them instead.
Which do you think would be better-suited for these purposes? I obviously wouldn't wear my Dundees in seriously bad weather, but I think that, with their Dainite sole and pebble grain, they may be better-suited for the sort of drizzle I am likely to encounter in the northwest in the fall.
Any recommendations would be much appreciated!
I think you are leaning the right way. Brown pebble grain with Dainte would seem to be a good "one shoe" given you plan to also wear them at a couple of "fancy" restaurants.
BTW, on the website for the Dundee 2.0, for the non-suede entries the "Overview" section says the sole is "double butyl" but the "details" section says Dainte. The pics, however, seem consistent with the claim of Dainte.
On the other hand, the suede versions seem to be double butyl. I guess their thinking is that is weather is such you need Dainte, you won't be wearing suede.
Speaking of which, has anyone bought the Dundee 2.0 with the Repello suede from Stead tannery? With the double sole and split welt, how far up the "dressiness" scale will you be taking it? There are some real ballers over on the HOF thread who wear suede chukkas with all manner of coat and tie, even suits, but those seem invariably to be flat welted, single sole boots.
Mine are still on the way, but after trying them on in store to choose a color (they didn't have my width there) and owning the brown leather version I'm pretty sure what I'll be wearing them with... Mostly jeans, chinos, and occasional wool trousers with heavier fabric button up shirts and sweaters. I don't wear too many sportcoats//blazers, but I'm sure they will work just fine with heavy wool or flannel. Of course you could find sleeker, more fitting suit shoes, but they aren't the clunkiest either IMO.
I think the Clark Street is dressy enough to wear with a suit. I might not wear them to your very most formal occasions, such as weddings, or to court if you're a lawyer, but otherwise I think they're perfectly fine with a suit.
The brown Strands are definitely more versatile. You can wear them as you would wear any other pair of brown brogues. The walnut Strands are a favorite of menswear blogs, but are probably a little too flashy to wear on a regular basis at a business formal office. They're my father's favorite shoes; he wears them at night and on the weekends with light gray slacks or with blue denim; once in a while he wears them to his business formal office on casual Fridays.
Since you already own two black dress shoes, I'd forget about the black Clark Streets and get both the walnut and dark brown Strands.