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Speaking of brooks brothers shoes with tartan patterns, anyone know which AE loafer they use for this? At least, I'm assuming it's AE.



On the shoe bank, I saw model it's no picture entitled "Brooks Duke Tartan Plug" but the color listed is chili. It certainly looks like they could've used the Duke template for the Brooks Brothers loafer.

Edit: I also see "Brooks Kenwood Brown/Blue." Maybe that's it?
post #63467 of 70737
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Originally Posted by misterellington View Post


I've heard dueling tales about ye olde Schautals—the Euro Market tale, another about them being a special Nordstrom make-up and so on. I wore them into the Fifth Avenue AE flag store here in NYC and the SA knelt down and said “Hmmm...never saw THESE before. A suede Macneil?” When I took the shoe off only to reveal NO style name below the Allen Edmonds logo inside, the other SA said, “Oh...it's gotta be an SMU. We don't put style names in the JABs (Joseph A. Banks) or BBs (Brooks Brothers).” 

I think there are exceptions to that “rule”. AND the Schautal may well have been a non-stateside makeup that just didn't sell there (Again, you're not the first I've heard cite this). That said, it's a hearty, substantial shoe (that double oak sole is indestructible) and is a near-perfect Fall weather gunboat with a slightly casual tweak. It kills with a pair of flannel pants and a corduroy jacket. Makes me feel all Liberal Artsy and whatnot.

Sadly, as of about a month ago—the few that remained on the shelves here in NYC BCFs were all pulled because...they weren't selling (Rim Shot!). They'd been marked down to $69.00 and then according to a BCF person i've become friendly with, when they didn't move at that price, they ALL got sent off to the 'Isle Of Misfit Gorgeous Orphaned Shoes”. Which in this case meant clunked about on a shelf at a T.J. Maxx or sold at cost to some discounter who'd take 'em off BCF's hands. Too bad, as it's a damned nice shoe.smile.gif

They do put style names in Jos. A Bank models. Not the Brooks Brothers ones though.
post #63468 of 70737
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Originally Posted by BackInTheJox View Post

Speaking of brooks brothers shoes with tartan patterns, anyone know which AE loafer they use for this? At least, I'm assuming it's AE.



On the shoe bank, I saw model it's no picture entitled "Brooks Duke Tartan Plug" but the color listed is chili. It certainly looks like they could've used the Duke template for the Brooks Brothers loafer.

Edit: I also see "Brooks Kenwood Brown/Blue." Maybe that's it?

Yeah, that looks more Kenwood than Duke.....
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Originally Posted by RitchieBro View Post


Yeah, that looks more Kenwood than Duke.....

 

The main thing swaying me away from thinking they're the Kenwood is that on the Kenwood the . . . piece of leather trim that goes around the throat (not sure what it's called) tends to have a sort of sharktooth/sawtooth pattern (as does the edge of the tongue), both of which are absent from this BB model (although the tongue is a different material so that could explain that part.

 

Otherwise, the overall template for the Duke and the Kenwood are pretty near identical . . . 

 

For comparison, here are all 3:

 

Brooks Brothers:

 

Brooks Brothers (AE) Duke:

AE Kenwood:

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Well, I talked to one of the SAs at my usual outlet location, and they weren't sure about the loafers either (they don't get photos on their end).  The actual shoes are in the Port Washington factory, which is not open today or tomorrow, and the sale only goes until tomorrow.

 

So, I pulled the trigger and ordered both the "Brooks Kenwood Brown/Blue" and the "Brooks Duke Tartan Plug."  I guess I will find out which (if either) is the one I'm looking for, and send back the other.  I'll only be out $10, and assuming I find what I'm looking for and the defects aren't bad, $169 + $10 is a heck of a lot cheaper than $368 for firsts.

 

I've also entertained the possibility that both of the above shoe descriptions are actually describing the same shoes.  The style numbers are different, although very close (only off by one number).  I do seem to vaguely remember a lighter colored (?chili) loafer with a tartan pattern in the past on BB's website, but that may just be me remembering some of their other loafers (like the current one on sale with the wool pattern).

 

Either way, I guess we'll see.  I don't know why I've become a sucker for the BB tartan stuff.  I bought the matching belt on sale a few months ago and it's really great - so I might as well have more than one pair of shoes to wear with it, eh?

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Any RDA or trunk show rumors? Thanks
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I recently purchased the $97 tan saddle Gobis on from the shoebank sale (had to size down a full size to get something that fit). I noticed the shoe I got was certainly worn a bit (possibly a return), but fit well, and was very comfortable. So, for the price I feel like it was certainly worth it. After wearing it today, I notice that the flexing and grain patterns are very different in each shoe. Any thoughts on trying to fix these? These are for casual wear, so I certainly don't feel that I need a pristine dress shoe.

 

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Originally Posted by BackInTheJox View Post
 

Well, I talked to one of the SAs at my usual outlet location, and they weren't sure about the loafers either (they don't get photos on their end).  The actual shoes are in the Port Washington factory, which is not open today or tomorrow, and the sale only goes until tomorrow.

 

So, I pulled the trigger and ordered both the "Brooks Kenwood Brown/Blue" and the "Brooks Duke Tartan Plug."  I guess I will find out which (if either) is the one I'm looking for, and send back the other.  I'll only be out $10, and assuming I find what I'm looking for and the defects aren't bad, $169 + $10 is a heck of a lot cheaper than $368 for firsts.

 

I've also entertained the possibility that both of the above shoe descriptions are actually describing the same shoes.  The style numbers are different, although very close (only off by one number).  I do seem to vaguely remember a lighter colored (?chili) loafer with a tartan pattern in the past on BB's website, but that may just be me remembering some of their other loafers (like the current one on sale with the wool pattern).

 

Either way, I guess we'll see.  I don't know why I've become a sucker for the BB tartan stuff.  I bought the matching belt on sale a few months ago and it's really great - so I might as well have more than one pair of shoes to wear with it, eh?

 

The Tartan Plug loafer is definitely built on the Duke pattern. 

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Originally Posted by pigly View Post

I recently purchased the $97 tan saddle Gobis on from the shoebank sale (had to size down a full size to get something that fit). I noticed the shoe I got was certainly worn a bit (possibly a return), but fit well, and was very comfortable. So, for the price I feel like it was certainly worth it. After wearing it today, I notice that the flexing and grain patterns are very different in each shoe. Any thoughts on trying to fix these? These are for casual wear, so I certainly don't feel that I need a pristine dress shoe.





Dont know that you can fix them however I would hit them with a few applications of Bick 4/lexol/ae leather lotion...they look dry
Edited by Kahuna75 - 9/6/15 at 7:48pm
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Originally Posted by garland View Post
 

 

The Tartan Plug loafer is definitely built on the Duke pattern. 

 

Thank you.  

 

Is that also to say that the tartan plug loafer is the photo I posted above from the BB website?  

 

If that's the case, I wonder what the Kenwood is going to look like . . .

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Originally Posted by Kahuna75 View Post

Do know that you can fix them however I would hit them with a few applications of Bick 4/lexol/ae leather lotion...they look dry

@pigly ^^^^^^^
In addition to the above, I'll add that my Black Hills were similar. Like yours, they are an inherently casual shoe. Embrace it all as "character" and roll with it. I bought a pair of Gobis last Christmas, though not at the bargain price you did. You are going to enjoy the heck out of those.
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Heard all the talk of Burlington CF Allen Edmonds deals, so went to a local ATL BCF...
And saw NOTHING but a Fairmont loafer in a 13D. I guess all the good ones went to the NYC area.
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Originally Posted by RitchieBro View Post

Heard all the talk of Burlington CF Allen Edmonds deals, so went to a local ATL BCF...
And saw NOTHING but a Fairmont loafer in a 13D. I guess all the good ones went to the NYC area.

I have visited 8-10 BCFs so far and it is just hit and miss. The majority have no AE shoes at all, but one I go to has 15-20 pairs in total. (None in my size.) the manager at the store with the shoes said they have no idea what will be shipped in each day. They get three shipments per week. They're may receive shoes and it may be clothes or other merchandise. I have just decided that it is a complete crap shot and you just have to enjoy the hunt.
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Originally Posted by RitchieBro View Post

Heard all the talk of Burlington CF Allen Edmonds deals, so went to a local ATL BCF...
And saw NOTHING but a Fairmont loafer in a 13D. I guess all the good ones went to the NYC area.

As a New Yorker, I will absolutely concur on the "hit or miss"-ness of how BCF's individual buyers procure merchandise. The Chelsea store on 6th Avenue gets goodies galore. But the store in Harlem has NEVER had a pair in my six times visiting there. I assumed the Hunts Point Terminal Mkt. Store in the South Bronx would be as barren as Harlem's but it has actually been a reposotory of great finds for me—a pair of "Scottsdale" loafers, my Nutmeg "Big Surs" and even a pair of Bourbon Horween Cordovan Florsheim Kenmoors I practically stole for $49.00 (List was $575.00).

There is no rhyme or reason to the stocking save for individual store buyers/managers knowing what gems amidst the poop in the thrice-weekly deliveries will move at a nice profit price. According to my source at BCF, some shoe associates at certain BCF stores would rather move five pairs of fall-apart Steve Maddens at $40.00 apiece than have one pair of AEs sit there for two weeks at $139.00 as their foot traffic/customers would rather buy the cheaper (in every way) shoe. They wanna clear space off the racks. (Which is why they eventually gave up on the Schautals—they sat there too long. Pretty cheap for AEs at $139 or so, but still close to 3X the price of the average shoe they sell.)

I've heard good things about a few Mid-Atlantic Stores having nice stuff come through as well as a few in Cali.

Your mileage may REALLY vary.
Edited by misterellington - 9/8/15 at 12:37am
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Originally Posted by BackInTheJox View Post
 

 

Thank you.  

 

Is that also to say that the tartan plug loafer is the photo I posted above from the BB website?  

 

If that's the case, I wonder what the Kenwood is going to look like . . .

 

The Kenwood brown/blue *should* be referring to the sole. Its stacked with a blue midsole. 

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