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Originally Posted by middlepP View Post
 

Was thinking I would use the Labor Day sale to add a couple of 2nds to help fill a hole or two in my rotation, as well as address my recent foot issues (already shared some of my issues, so I won't go into detail). None of the sale prices jumped out at me to the point that I had to purchase something and the ATL's help fill the (hopefully) shorter team need for comfort.

 

Any thoughts on one or two shoes, perhaps included in the sale, that are missing from my current collection? 

 

I work in an academic setting, typically the low end of business casual (khaki/trousers + button up, jeans on Friday). Also, as part of my job I conduct visits (~2-3 days) to other universities about 10 times a year. During these visits I wear a suit without a tie or a trouser/coat combo. Since I am traveling, I like options that are versatile enough to go from plane ride to important meetings to jeans at dinner. (I've used Bleecker boots, Kenilworths in the past; could see using some of the road warriors in this manner too.)

 

So, as you can see my shoe needs lean more towards casual then dressy. I know I am missing the staples (i.e. Strands, Park Avenue, loafers), but I just don't think I will wear them enough to justify a purchase. Perhaps a heavier soled boot (missed out on the bayfield/eagle MTOs) or a double monk? I am still a ways away from entering the shell game... but some day I'm sure.

 

 

McTavish Black 

McTavish Tan (natural?) 

Kenilworth Bourbon 

Carlyle Bob's Chili 

Walnut Black Hills PTB

Rogue Bob's Chili 
Clark St Natural CXL
Franciscan Bob's Chili 

Fenway Walnut 

Amok Tan suede 

Addison Tan rough 

Fullerton Choc suede 
Gobi Snuff suede 
Shaker Height Chili
Bleecker Street Bob's Chili
Dalton Walnut

LGA Walnut

ATL Brown

MKE Bob's Chili
Kirkwood Blue CXL 

Maritime Light CXL

 

Sold off or returned:

Bourbon Daltons, Calf Eagle Rivers, Brown Calf Fullerton and Boulder slip on.
 

Thanks, gents!

 

Your list of "haves" (I infer those are shoes you already own) already includes two likely candidates: a suede chukka and the Clark Street, though the latter is perhaps too light to be as versatile as what you are looking for.

 

You know, looking at what I have bolded above, I think you have just described a loafer.  Perhaps your foot condition doesn't make that doable or maybe you hate them but a dressy loafer (some regard that a oxymoron) would seem to fill the bill, given your criteria.  Another thing to consider might be a darkish (but not black) LWB.

 

I realize you say you are "still a ways from entering the shell game" but given your affinity for shoes, instead of getting two more pair now, you might consider a single purchase of  either a burg shell loafer or shell LWB.  Either would cover a lot of bases. 

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Originally Posted by smfdoc View Post
 

Here is a great example of the differences in color and shade that can appear in these photos we share on the forum. @oowtfmate shared his beautiful shoes with us, but differences in lighting make it look as if he is wearing pants with light blue on the right leg and gray on the left. Same pants, same shot, but different colors on the pants. (Unless, of course, he is simply wearing pants with two different colored legs.) So as @Busterbrown suggests, bear this in mind when assessing shoe colors and asking for specific polish/cream/wax recommendations from our fellow SF lurkers.


Great point. I believe what happened is adjacent to my left hand side was a big window with lots of light coming in. My left inner-thigh is being shadowed and the right thigh is being illuminated. 

 

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Originally Posted by Veremund View Post


FWIW, I hear mixed things on evolution too, but I ignore those people.crazy.gif
 
 
I do as well. But FWIW, I believe in evolution because of scientific proof. The basis for having shoe trees at all times is may have some merit but is anecdotal at worst. 

Edited by oowtfmate - 8/25/15 at 3:53pm
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Originally Posted by cc808314 View Post

@Neo1 , the walking encyclopedia of AE lasts, I need your help. How is the fit of BB Presidio compared with BB San Marco and Aberdeen?

I was wondering what happened to you and was sort of thinking you were like,

oh that jerk Neo telling me to go for the San Marco.  Hopefully not :)

Anyway, this was kind of awesome - I was waiting for someone to ask about the

Presidio and you're definitely the best candidate I can think of.  This may

be a little lengthy -

 

You're one of the few people I think who can get the 222 last to work.  The

tapering it uses can be kind of brutal - meaning if you're an E width or

greater you probably shouldn't go any further.  If I were to make up a scale

from 1 to 10, 10 being the most brutal, I'd give the Aberdeen like a 1, the

San Marco a 5 and the Norwich a 10.  Unfortunately I'd probably give the

Presidio something like a 7.5-8.  With the Norwich, you have stiff calf, the

tapered toebox and the double oak sole.  The Presidio felt very similar to

the Norwich in terms of the material/fit but I think the weird sole it used

(it might have been all rubber even, but it definitely wasn't a double oak)

sort of saved it from being unmanageable.

 

My typical size is 7D.  I tried the Presidio in 6.5E, 7D, 7E and 7.5D.  As

you can tell, I loved the look of it and wanted it to work.  I thought it was

sleek and dressy, and since I couldn't get a good fit with either the McGraw

or Randolph with the lasts they were on, I thought this was a great

alternative.  From the trial and error I determined that 7D was sort of

"optimal" - problem was that since the top/vamp came down just low enough and

since the material was so stiff, I could feel the top of my feet aching after

even like 5 minutes of wear.  Not sure how much stretch I could get out of

this.  I really wanted to roll the dice and give them a try but didn't want

something that looked this good just sitting around in my closet collecting

dust.  If they worked out I'd totally get all 3 colors.  But I guess there's

a reason why they're both so low priced and why there are still so many

around.

 

Hope this helps you out.  If you do decide to go for them, definitely let me

know how they work out.

Best - Neo

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What's the best price w/shipping on the Saphir renovateur? I'm in the US.

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One of my firsts, still one of my favs, and definitely the most complimented pair of shoes I own.



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Picked up a couple pair of Desoto's for $87 each.  They seem to be made of the same leather as my Cronmoks, which means they are VERY flexible and thus very, very comfortable.  Mainly I wanted them as something I would wear sockless in the summer as an alternative to my Maritime boat shoes.  

 

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Any opinions on best brown shoe for suit and business casual use? I'm thinking either the Fifth Ave or McAllister. I'm leaning towards the McAllister right now... I currently own black PAs and walnut Strands.

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Any opinions on best brown shoe for suit and business casual use? I'm thinking either the Fifth Ave or McAllister. I'm leaning towards the McAllister right now... I currently own black PAs and walnut Strands.
If you're looking for something flexible for BOTH suits and business casual, I would stay away from all of those, as they are primarily suit shoes. I think the Lexington, Fort Collins, or Flaturon would work well. The first two are currently on clearance.

You also may be able to find stray pairs of Kenilworth lying around a store. It may be worth asking your SA to do an inventory check. Good luck!!
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Any opinions on best brown shoe for suit and business casual use? I'm thinking either the Fifth Ave or McAllister. I'm leaning towards the McAllister right now... I currently own black PAs and walnut Strands.
Second the recommendation for the Lexington. Shame the Dainite sole isn't also on clearance, as I prefer them for casual wear.
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Originally Posted by P12OFIT View Post
 

Any opinions on best brown shoe for suit and business casual use? I'm thinking either the Fifth Ave or McAllister. I'm leaning towards the McAllister right now... I currently own black PAs and walnut Strands.

depends on your definition of business casual.

 

i wear typically creased dress slacks and a dress shirt, no tie, so the mcallisters (merlot for me) still fits the bill.

sometimes i'll put on a navy blazer..

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Originally Posted by HealthActuary View Post
 

depends on your definition of business casual.

 

i wear typically creased dress slacks and a dress shirt, no tie, so the mcallisters (merlot for me) still fits the bill.

sometimes i'll put on a navy blazer..

 

I'd be in the same boat. My business casual is far from chinos with a sports shirt and much more similar to your situation which is why I was leaning towards the McAllisters. I should have been more specific in my post.

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Originally Posted by HealthActuary View Post
 

depends on your definition of business casual.

 

i wear typically creased dress slacks and a dress shirt, no tie, so the mcallisters (merlot for me) still fits the bill.

sometimes i'll put on a navy blazer..


 

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Originally Posted by P12OFIT View Post
 

 

I'd be in the same boat. My business casual is far from chinos with a sports shirt and much more similar to your situation which is why I was leaning towards the McAllisters. I should have been more specific in my post.


I suppose you have to be specific these days since the definition of business casual suddenly means casual, and casual apparently means what I would normally wear to work on my lawn. But hay, its a postmodern world. Your definition of something doesn't have to be my definition of something because all of this is just silly social convention that only means what you want it to mean anyway. Ok. Venting done.

 

But seriously, I love the Mcallister in merlot, but would prefer the FA, Lexington, or Cornwalis in brown. The newer Lexington in brown would also give you an inclement weather hero that could certainly pass for a suit shoe as well when you want to keep your PA's dry. 

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 "I do as well. But FWIW, I believe in evolution because of scientific proof. The basis for having shoe trees at all times is may have some merit but is anecdotal at worst."

FWIW, proving shoe trees do more good at all times would be far easier than "proving" macro evolution (the scientific term would be "evidence" if you are indeed alluding to macro evolution) since we can't sit around for billions of years to observe a single cell spontaneously turning into everything we see living now. With that in mind, proving whether shoe trees should be in at all times or just some of the time would be a relatively easy thing to do if someone wanted to spend the time and money doing it.

 

Besides, its about being able to stick a set in the shoes without having to remember which pair I need to remove them from and so on. It's just easier to have a set for every pair if you can catch 3 for 1 at JAB. 

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Originally Posted by redmusic1 View Post

FWIW, proving shoe trees do more good at all times would be far easier than "proving" macro evolution (the scientific term would be "evidence" if you are indeed alluding to macro evolution) since we can't sit around for billions of years to observe a single cell spontaneously turning into everything we see living now. With that in mind, proving whether shoe trees should be in at all times or just some of the time would be a relatively easy thing to do if someone wanted to spend the time and money doing it.

Besides, its about being able to stick a set in the shoes without having to remember which pair I need to remove them from and so on. It's just easier to have a set for every pair if you can catch 3 for 1 at JAB. 

Fair enough
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What if I'm already 3E? I have never tried a 65 last shoe but would certainly like to have more options. I'll need boots soon too wink.gif. Maybe you know the Leeds and can compare a bit?

I have 8.5 3E Leeds (511 last). That one still hurt the right pinky quite a bit at first but its getting better with wear. I wouldn't want to go up to 9 though as my left foot is a size smaller, which means the 8 I tried first was already too big. Now the 511 is said to already have more space. Would that make me a 9 to 9.5 3E in the 65 just to get the same space? Or would the length of the 65 last make up for it? I can't just go try it, since there's no AE store around here and the affiliate I contacted has no 3Es.

 

Ugh...I'm gonna suggest we throw this out to the more experienced guys here...

 

For me, the sudden and expensive discovery that I should be wearing an E width was bad enough...yes the 511 IS roomier in the toebox IMO, but even then I'm starting to feel that my 8.5D Daltons are borderline too tight on my pinky - but acceptable in length, so I'm more comfortable going up in length If I needed to. 

 

In a 3E?...Me - in that spot - I'm going up 1/2 size length if wiser minds agree it will help, but I'm preparing for either a $10 restocking fee on return or a cobbler and his shoe stretching/insert tongue pad/insert heel pad/ services.

 

To be clear, I don't personally wanna go up in length on the 65 because I already find it looooong AND I'm worried about heel slippage - i.e when warned by a Wise Man here :) that the 97-last was a "vice-like" toebox, I ordered some shell Westchesters in an 8EEE and still found them snug at the pinky AND too long and loose in the heel - with my cobbler's help and $20, they're wear-able now.

 

Lessons?:

 

A) Some Lasts just AREN'T right for some of us - period

B) Whatever you purchase, don't be afraid to make adjustments/alterations if possible to get the best fit

C)  Who knew that this shoe fixation thing could get soooo bloody complicated

D) I try to help, but you prolly want someone who knows better  :)

 

GL Sir!

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